What really is the best for consumption?

Butter is animal fat and contains saturated fat - unhealthy, but humans have consumed it for centuries...

Margarine is vegetable fat 80% water 20% - but the manufacturing process makes it unhealthy...

Fat Spread is 20% Fat 80% water...

 

So how could one choose what's best?

Edited May 24, 20224 yr by ravip
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I just buy what's the best price ........

Currently 50% butter, 50% margarine from YoK @ 80bht for 500gm.

(I only use it for toast and Marmite so it lasts a while)

Butter, every time. Not as unhealthy as previously thought.

 

Margarine on the other hand, just 2 molecules away from being a drainpipe.

Olive oil spread.

Tastes fine and olive oil is good for you (supposedly).

I'm lazy so I just get what spreads the easiest.

I would say depends entirely on how much of it you actually eat.

Like most things, in moderation, wont do you any real harm (subject to your  health)

 

Its not something I actually eat that often, a tub usually lasts  about a month.

 

 

Margarine is generally the healthier of the two providing it doesn't contain trans fats.

49 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I just buy what's the best price ........

Currently 50% butter, 50% margarine from YoK @ 80bht for 500gm.

(I only use it for toast and Marmite so it lasts a while)

Marmite is available in Thailand? I've never seen it on the shelves!

1 minute ago, ravip said:

Marmite is available in Thailand? I've never seen it on the shelves!

Lazada.

57 minutes ago, ravip said:

Butter is ...

Margarine is ...

Fat Spread is...

 

So how could one choose what's best?

Who cares what it is? Eat what you like to eat and what tastes best.

We are all going to die, it's just a question of when. Do you really want to use "Fat Spread" to live a week longer?

I learnt to live without spreads on bread and the like years ago, don't miss the habit now

Use butter for making banana muffins , don't put on toast or sandwiches even though I have it in the fridge

Much prefer cheese and onion on toast, in sandwich, without butter or any other spreads, jam, goes directly onto toast ok too ????

 

Butter ... taste matters

 

Everything in moderation = healthy

None of them, fat you eat is the fat you wear. I stopped eating them a few years ago, I don't even miss it now, just a habit to stop

Butter always. I bake with it so buy only imported butter. What the Thais call butter bears little resemblance to real butter

Edited May 24, 20224 yr by bang saen guy

Must be butter , have 2 Kgs of New Zealand butter on the way

to me now, 195 THB Kg, do they still make margarine from Whales !.

 

I cut it up into small blocks and keep it in the freezer ,keeps well,

and saves a lot of money buying 250 grams of mixed butter ,like

Orchid. that's about 105 thb .

regards worgeordie

Butter, consumed in moderate amounts is healthy. Margarines contain heinous products. Highly toxic fats. Highly saturated fats and oils. I avoid them like Bubonic plague. 

For those concerned about their health (cholesterol level) vs weight, no worries, as what you don't eat, you body will make.

 

"“Your genetic makeup – not diet – is the driving force behind cholesterol levels, says Dr. Nissen. “The body creates cholesterol in amounts much larger than what you can eat, so avoiding foods that are high in cholesterol won’t affect your blood cholesterol levels very much.”

 

About 85% of the cholesterol in the circulation is manufactured by the body in the liver."

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/why-you-should-no-longer-worry-about-cholesterol-in-food/#:~:text=“The body creates cholesterol in,the body in the liver.

 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dietary-cholesterol-does-not-matter

Edited May 24, 20224 yr by KhunLA

With margarine it depends entirely on what it contains and this can vary greatly. In the West now there are margarines available that are without trans fats and made form unsaturated plant oils.

 

In Thailand however, locally made margarine tends to still have a lot of trans fats (despite supposed ban on them since 2019) and to be made from palm oil which is quite unhealthy.

 

So unless you are able to buy an imported margarine made from healthy plant oils, you are better off in Thailand with butter.

 

Or use olive oil as a spread.

I buy imported margarines made from olive oil and canola, IMO much healthier than butter.

Many people get their knickers in a twist about the additives used to make margarine, they don't seem to have harmed me.

They'd be better off worrying about alcohol, which has been a Class 1 carcinogen since 1989.

2 hours ago, Denim said:

I'm lazy so I just get what spreads the easiest.

Are you discussing bread and butter or girls?

5 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Margarine is generally the healthier of the two providing it doesn't contain trans fats.

according to who? what? by what metric ?

 

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

For those concerned about their health (cholesterol level) vs weight, no worries, as what you don't eat, you body will make.

 

"“Your genetic makeup – not diet – is the driving force behind cholesterol levels, says Dr. Nissen. “The body creates cholesterol in amounts much larger than what you can eat, so avoiding foods that are high in cholesterol won’t affect your blood cholesterol levels very much.”

 

About 85% of the cholesterol in the circulation is manufactured by the body in the liver."

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/why-you-should-no-longer-worry-about-cholesterol-in-food/#:~:text=“The body creates cholesterol in,the body in the liver.

 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dietary-cholesterol-does-not-matter

More or less yes - not to mention cholesterol is essential, especially for men

 

That said its butter all the way

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who cares what it is? Eat what you like to eat and what tastes best.

We are all going to die, it's just a question of when. Do you really want to use "Fat Spread" to live a week longer?

TBO, I was not searching for methods of increasing my lifespan!  - 555

It's just that I was very interested to know the real difference between these spreads. My 1st preference is also butter!

 

But, what REALLY are the other two? I mean the manufacturing process, additives etc

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5 hours ago, ravip said:

Marmite is available in Thailand? I've never seen it on the shelves!

Villa has it, Tops usually have it also.

5 hours ago, ravip said:

Marmite is available in Thailand? I've never seen it on the shelves!

Quite expensive surprise surprise, 289 baht, Big C, expat shops, Lazada, Shopee. I buy the Tesco own brand version about 90 baht

The food industry has pushed the "low fat" mantra since the 60's, replacing a lot foods rich in healthy saturated fats with processed sugar.

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At the turn of our century, heart disease in America was rare. By 1960, it was our number one killer. Yet during the same time period, butter consumption had decreased — from 18 pounds per person per year to four.⁴

A researcher named Ancel Keys was the first to propose that saturated fat and cholesterol in the diet were to blame for coronary heart disease (CAD). Numerous subsequent studies, costing hundreds of millions of dollars, have failed to conclusively back up this claim.

Later research on the controversy showed that sugar, not saturated fat, appears to be to blame for our heart disease epidemic.⁵

Yet the notion that a healthy diet is one with minimal fat, particularly saturated fat, has persisted. While Americans drastically reduced their intake of natural animal fats like butter and meat, the processed food industry, especially the low-fat food industry, proliferated.

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16 minutes ago, ravip said:

But, what REALLY are the other two? I mean the manufacturing process, additives etc

And do you expect to get an answer to that here? 555 

30 minutes ago, eezergood said:

according to who? what? by what metric ?

 

The metric is saturated fats, butter contains significant amounts of stearic and palmitic acid esters. Margarines made with vegetable oils, and that are not hydrogenated, are almost all unsaturated esters based on oleic, linoleic, and linolenic acids.

4 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Must be butter , have 2 Kgs of New Zealand butter on the way

to me now, 195 THB Kg,

That is a very good price. Mind sharing the source?

Butter - and the cheap butter does not taste too good either...