1 hour ago, carlyai said:

Time is relative.

When he said that I was using a teletypwriter, writing a very simple program that took the room full of transfomers and large vaccume tubes about 2 minuites to give the answer. 

Amazing as it was watching tubes go on and off, impossible was it to predict today's storage capabilities. ????

 

I was making the point Gates was very good at marketing, I can't recall him ever designing or making computer hardware.

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Moon landing, UP2U ... I'm not a believer.

Well,  ... that explains a lot

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I was making the point Gates was very good at marketing, I can't recall him ever designing or making computer hardware.

The whole revolutionary concept of "Windows" instead of a character based design is actually from Dell without searching on Google I think I recall it was called "Daisy". I had the pleasure to attend a demonstration of the original together with the then new laser printers at a price of a modest house. The audience was blown away despite of that. But the McIntosh hardware with its (too) tiny screen was a nightmare, but nevertheless revolutionary.

Tell me ONE thing in this world that is 100% true!!!!

 

even your name must not be real, fake birth certificate.

 

You say you are in Thailand?  Matrix!!!!

 

Am I a falang?   God I hope not, they are dirty..........simply a filter 

 

Nothing can be guaranteed.....not even death.   instant transfer to another body, unless falang, then you go into the intestines of a buffalo with stomach problems.

3 minutes ago, Iamfalang said:

Tell me ONE thing in this world that is 100% true!!!!

.................

Nothing can be guaranteed.....not even death.   instant transfer to another body, unless falang, then you go into the intestines of a buffalo with stomach problems.

I am willing to conclude any bet as far as your death is concerned and issue a certificate if required.

As far as the buffalo goes: This is entirely up to you - may be better - may even be worse.

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

But now think of this - For me to make a staging of Lunar landing now, with all the video manipulation equipment available in 2022 would have been a piece of cake. But how would you do something like that back in 1969?

May not have had the green screen tech/CGI, but did pretty good back then, faking stuff in movies.  Consider when King Kong was made.  Here's a few from the 60s:

https://www.filmsite.org/visualeffects8.html

Lunar eclipse conclusively proves the earth is flat.

 

I've read that the Sun landing was faked also,

?

There were 6 Apollo moon landings, all real.

 

https://www.space.com/apollo-landing-sites-moon-observer-guide

1 of the most overrated - perhaps THE most overrated  - film directors of all time.

(After "The Killing" it was all downhill).

It was definitely fake. The moon comes out at night, and they took off during the day.

4 hours ago, itsari said:

It must be deeply upsetting for the astronauts that were involved with the moon landing missions to know so many disbelieve there achievements .

Possibly similar to how the Capitol police officers felt when told that Jan 6 rioters were regular tourists lol

2 hours ago, Crossy said:

It would seem Neil and Buzz weren't the first!

 

 

Front cover of the Sunday Sport Newspaper - April 24th 1988 - World War Two Bomber Found on Moon

'Sex for Satan' caught my eye.

13 hours ago, moogradod said:

The whole revolutionary concept of "Windows" instead of a character based design is actually from Dell without searching on Google I think I recall it was called "Daisy"....

The first "Windows" concept was the Xerox Alto, which was designed in 1973 at Xerox's Research Center in Palo Alto, California (They also designed the first laser printer in '69 which was available commercially in '78, not the sort of product that has a RRP, but agree, price of a house.).

Original cost of the Alto was $30,000+. Only sold a few thousand units, however the ideas of a graphical user interface (GUI) and a Mouse was picked up by Steve Jobs on a visit in 1979 and  adopted (nicked) by Apple into their Lisa computer in '83 and subsequent Machintosh computers.

Bill Gates on the other hand was consulting for IBM and offered to write the Operating System for their pending Personal Computer (PC). In fact he offered $50,000 to Seattle Computer Products for their QDos product and then tweaked it into MS-Dos before licensing it to IBM for their 1981 launch of the IBM XT PC. 

With the growth of Apple and their GUI, Microsoft started to develop their own, called Windows in '85, which was an add-on to their text based Operating System, MS-Dos. It probably wasn't till '90 when Windows 3 was launched that PC's powered up direct into a Graphical looking Operating System.

Michael Dell started his PC clone business in '84 running out of a Condo with a handful of employees in Texas. Like Alan Sugar with Amstrad, the computers were sold direct to the end user. In '87 Michael  launched his UK business.

By '92 he was the youngest CEO of a Fortune 500 company. In '96 Dell starts selling servers, expanding into the Enterprise market. He's reported to be worth over $50 Billion.

 

Just found this. Advert from 1972..

 

Note the collection of 2.5MB removable hard drives on the right.

On 8/27/2022 at 8:33 AM, Dmaxdan said:

Well firstly, I'd like some proof that the feller in the video is actually Stanley Kubrick and not an actor.

Deep fakes abound on tiktok and Twitter.

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Deep fakes abound on tiktok and Twitter.

... and CDC, FDA, CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress, WH, Pentagon, UN, MSM

16 minutes ago, RayWright said:

Note the collection of 2.5MB removable hard drives on the right.

 

What's really scary is that I actually worked with these chaps (RK05 discpak) attached to DEC PDP-8 computers!

 

20 hours ago, moogradod said:

The whole revolutionary concept of "Windows" instead of a character based design is actually from Dell without searching on Google I think I recall it was called "Daisy". I had the pleasure to attend a demonstration of the original together with the then new laser printers at a price of a modest house. The audience was blown away despite of that. But the McIntosh hardware with its (too) tiny screen was a nightmare, but nevertheless revolutionary.

Not sure where you get this from, dell didnt have anything to do with creating/developing operating systems or windows, or early laser printers. Dell sells hardware, and always has. I think you may be confusing dell with xerox

7 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Not sure where you get this from, dell didnt have anything to do with creating/developing operating systems or windows, or early laser printers. Dell sells hardware, and always has. I think you may be confusing dell with xerox

Of course you and @RayWright are correct ! I apologize for the wrong info. Somehow I managed to think of Dell (and "Daisy" as well) the whole time. Maybe because this was a very long time ago ? It is exactly this XEROX Alto that is shown in the picture above that I saw demonstrated and it was revolutionary if you think that for example word processors were character based at the time, splitting a tiny screen into even tinier parts showing the text in the upper portion and reserving the lower portion for a list of commands to manipulate the text. No mouse of course.

 

"Daisy" as a brand name was in my mind because we sold a system with that name later on - but this one was exclusively for designing electronic circuits. I think I have actually witnessed quite a big portion of (practical) IT history. Learned to type on a strictly mechanical standard typewriter, then came the IBM selectric with the typewriter ball (this one dates actually much more back than I thought - I googled it just before), then typewriters with memory, Apple II and yes, Lisa, but this was a short lived model (given its price at the time maybe) only to be replaced by the MacIntosh which was a huge commercial success.

 

Some time IBM stepped in (and therefore Gates with his DOS) I was in fact raised in the middle of that era were the transition from tubes to transistors on a broad scale took place as well. Remember we had tube based radios at home (not to speak of TVs). At the university we had to punch punchcards with the code (written in PL/1) and hand it in for processing only to discover that some were not punched correctly later on ????. I still own somewhere a handbook for programming in machine language and I have still an original handbook of the Commodore 64. My God what a big difference to today. But one of the revolutions was started with this Xerox Alto with mouse, windows, laser printers and a screen that showed for the first time a full A4 page.

On 8/27/2022 at 11:54 AM, Crossy said:

It would seem Neil and Buzz weren't the first!

 

 

Front cover of the Sunday Sport Newspaper - April 24th 1988 - World War Two Bomber Found on Moon

I used to buy that on the way into work every week, Sundays just flew by ????

Meanwhile this track popped up on the Ken Bruce show last week (courtesy of Prof. Brian Cox' "Tracks of my Years" selection), I had never heard it before (they used the real comms clips from Apollo 11).

 

 

 

On 8/27/2022 at 8:40 AM, KhunLA said:

Moon landing, UP2U ... I'm not a believer.

 

Photos supposedly from the moon, FAKE

 

 

Was a Hasselblad used to take the photo of this guy using a Hasselblad at a wedding? 

Its strange that no one born after 1943 has ever been to the moon.

On 8/28/2022 at 5:23 PM, Crossy said:

Meanwhile this track popped up on the Ken Bruce show last week (courtesy of Prof. Brian Cox'....

 

Not heard of them either. Quick Google, started off in 2009 out of Tooting, and Produce / Market their own material, i.e. not signed to a major.

As there name implies, they use / intercut old Government broadcast messages into their music.

Did find this, which is their 2015 album, The Race for Space, (which the Ken Bruce played track Go! is on), from the 2019 season of the Proms celebrating the 50th Anniversay of the Moon Landings.

Their 2017 Album, Every Valley covers Welsh Mining. Well worth a listen. 

On 8/27/2022 at 1:41 AM, moogradod said:

The whole revolutionary concept of "Windows" instead of a character based design is actually from Dell without searching on Google I think I recall it was called "Daisy". I had the pleasure to attend a demonstration of the original together with the then new laser printers at a price of a modest house. The audience was blown away despite of that. But the McIntosh hardware with its (too) tiny screen was a nightmare, but nevertheless revolutionary.

It was originally design by a group at Xerox in the 70's based on concepts developed in the mid 60's, I believe if memory serves me correctly. 

Someone need to stop smoking!

Break out the kool aide and tin foil hat's.  Invite all the trumpers, flat earth society, and fox news viewers...It's party time.

On 8/28/2022 at 2:40 AM, KhunLA said:

On 8/28/2022 at 2:34 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Deep fakes abound on tiktok and Twitter.

... and CDC, FDA, CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress, WH, Pentagon, UN, MSM

...and AseanNow

10 hours ago, Dan O said:

It was originally design by a group at Xerox in the 70's based on concepts developed in the mid 60's, I believe if memory serves me correctly. 

I have corrected my mistake in a post above which you obviously did not read.