At least 20 people killed in mass shooting in Thailand: Police

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Perhaps it doesn't matter, but this doesn't seem to have been a "mass shooting" like the examples in the US, as most of the child victims were stabbed to death.

A dubious record nonetheless. 

[Cake Monster]

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not sure where you saw the information you have, but it is misinformation.

As I stated, this was info that was out there early on as the Incident broke.

I never returned back later to read the updates, as its all too upsetting to hear of such a dreadful Crime against very young Children

[CatCage]

I have to wonder if any Temple or Monk will want to be associated with this creep when it comes time for his remains to be disposed of.

[joecoolfrog]

14 hours ago, dj230 said:

Thanks for the insights, I will write a letter to my police station and let them know to carry pencils instead of firearms

 

Right because calling everything a myth will solve everything.

 

Plenty of news reports, stories, videos of people defending themselves with firearms against criminals. Common sense should be enough to understand that having a firearm to defend yourself and others is going to result in a higher probability of survival versus not having one in a massacre like this.

 

The only ones who will be negatively impacted are the victims. I think if you had a friend or family member at that school, you would think differently. 

I dont think any sensible person would think differently under any circumstances.

The NRA inspired nonsense you parrot has been debunked time and time again.

[Road Warrior]

such a individual with a gun would be obvious of the outcome , a true menace, yet no action to prevent such tragedy    

[Chelseafan]

50 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

People are quick to say it was drug induced. It could readily have been alcohol. Mental illness exacerbated by alcohol abuse, along with Karmic things. 

Extremely hard to find compassion here, and to accept he was sick, not evil. Could anyone be that evil? 

The reports coming out state that he was on drugs so that's all we know at the moment.

My hunch is that he decided to end his life and take as many people with him purely because he was a sick f**£$&r

 

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Grief-stricken relatives of those who died gathered at the centre wailing as the authorities rushed to examine the dead bodies.

There are no words... 

[Sydebolle]

Stay factual, there is nothing more to do on this case. As tragic and life shattering it is, the culprit is dead and the survivors will be needing all the assistance to accommodate their terrible, irrevocable losses.

How to prevent this in the future - might be the next goal.
Why are firearms readily available everywhere including ammo in a country, where it is per se forbidden?
Are police cadets professionally screened for their psychological ability to execute their duties?
What is trained on weaponry? 

The scenario is similar to the United States (as in many other things) and there the electorate has still not understood a thing. Here, the police and army should execute their duties according to the laws in the interest and protection of the electorate - regretfully the electorate is here to be srcweed and  exploited for the benefit of ....... we all know the script ????

[SpanishExpat]

Every massacre is terrible! But doing it in a Kindergarden and not hesitating to kill innocent toddlers is just another level. 
 

Wish they caught this coward alive and let him suffer eternally!!

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

So the proverbial Bring out your dead scenario and gawkers.  Still seems to fascinate the masses here, and they still show the scenes and arrests on the news here as well.

You are wrong, Thai people are not fascinated by dead bodies, it is Westerners that have a weird kind of phobia or rule that they are not to be seen. When moving to a new country, it's polite to adapt to the local beliefs and traditions, not criticise it as it is not what you are used to.  In the words of a Christian saint  - 

O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, SpanishExpat said:

Every massacre is terrible! But doing it in a Kindergarden and not hesitating to kill innocent toddlers is just another level. 
 

Wish they caught this coward alive and let him suffer eternally!!

Do you not believe in Hell, or Karma?

[Neeranam]

31 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Why are firearms readily available everywhere including ammo in a country, where it is per se forbidden?

Guns are not forbidden here. 

Most gun owners are 100% legal. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, CatCage said:

I have to wonder if any Temple or Monk will want to be associated with this creep when it comes time for his remains to be disposed of.

Monk are compassionate, we can learn a lot from them. 

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You are wrong, Thai people are not fascinated by dead bodies, it is Westerners that have a weird kind of phobia or rule that they are not to be seen. When moving to a new country, it's polite to adapt to the local beliefs and traditions, not criticise it as it is not what you are used to.  In the words of a Christian saint  - 

O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

So to you, showing the daily crimes, murders and death scenes where motorbikes and pedestrians get run over is appropriate.  In no way shape or form is it appropriate as all it tends to do is deaden ones senses and then it becomes fascinating.  Another case just recently of a young man who cut up and dismembered his GF and spread her around because he saw it described on TV says it all.  Thai's learn to do these horrid things and become enthralled in them.  Watch a Lakorn if you do not believe me, they always seem to blame a demon or body possession for why things happen, not there fault they say.

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Monk are compassionate, we can learn a lot from them. 

Monks are compassionate? this countries take on Buddhism and the wealth it can bring goes in complete contrast to true Buddhism.  Monks have killed other monks, used drugs, lain with women and many have been defrocked.  It is a very small percentage that are righteous.

[Bkk Brian]

Guns are rampant in Thailand, even if mass shootings aren’t.

 

But Thailand, a majority Buddhist country of about 69 million, has some of Asia’s highest rates of gun ownership and gun homicide. It is also a key underground market for firearms in Southeast Asia, and experts say that many unregistered weapons have been brought in from neighboring countries.

 

“Thailand is seen as the region’s principal arms black market, followed by Cambodia and Vietnam,” according to gunpolicy.org.

 

Mass shootings are rare in Thailand, but in a country with millions of firearms, the authorities have long worried about the potential for more gun violence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/world/asia/thailand-shootings-guns-firearms.html

[Neeranam]

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So to you, showing the daily crimes, murders and death scenes where motorbikes and pedestrians get run over is appropriate.  In no way shape or form is it appropriate as all it tends to do is deaden ones senses and then it becomes fascinating.  Another case just recently of a young man who cut up and dismembered his GF and spread her around because he saw it described on TV says it all.  Thai's learn to do these horrid things and become enthralled in them.  Watch a Lakorn if you do not believe me, they always seem to blame a demon or body possession for why things happen, not there fault they say.

I really can't believe that you are using this thread to spread your hatred of Thailand and her culture. Thai bashing to the extreme. 

 I wouldn't go to your country and and suggest you ban violent video games or movies as people copy them and kill people. 

To me, there is nothing inappropriate about showing pictures of dead people and there is no fascination, that is in your head, due to being repressed. 

Do you believe in demons or body possessions? 

 

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Monks are compassionate? this countries take on Buddhism and the wealth it can bring goes in complete contrast to true Buddhism.  Monks have killed other monks, used drugs, lain with women and many have been defrocked.  It is a very small percentage that are righteous.

More Thai bashing, shame on you. 

Of course monks are compassionate. There are bad ones of course, but same could be said of any country. Don't get me started on Catholic priests in your country. 

Real monks/priests have qualities we should aspire to. 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I really can't believe that you are using this thread to spread your hatred of Thailand and her culture. Thai bashing to the extreme. 

 I wouldn't go to your country and and suggest you ban violent video games or movies as people copy them and kill people. 

To me, there is nothing inappropriate about showing pictures of dead people and there is no fascination, that is in your head, due to being repressed. 

Do you believe in demons or body possessions? 

 

No one's bashing anything except a pervasive view shown daily.  If that's called culture then it is not warranted as a part of culture. Guess if they showed executions you would like to see that as well.  Why do you think they have already stated to folks not to show pictures of this heinous crime.

[riclag]

The Mrs was telling me that one young girl escaped death by lying still while clutching her blankets over her head! 
My friend has a 4 year old in a similar school and went to take them out early , out of precaution yesterday !

Mental illness has much to do with this tragedy and other similar  events that have occurred.
 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

No one's bashing anything except a pervasive view shown daily.  If that's called culture then it is not warranted as a part of culture. Guess if they showed executions you would like to see that as well.  Why do you think they have already stated to folks not to show pictures of this heinous crime.

It is extreme bashing and lack of cultural acceptance.

They had public executions in your country in the past. 

I wouldn't want to see someone getting executed. 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

My friend has a 4 year old in a similar school and went to take them out early , out of precaution yesterday !

Strange, the killer is dead. 

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Monks are compassionate? this countries take on Buddhism and the wealth it can bring goes in complete contrast to true Buddhism.  Monks have killed other monks, used drugs, lain with women and many have been defrocked.  It is a very small percentage that are righteous.

Aren't there normally packs of soi dogs at many temples? Perhaps those monks could leave his body to them.

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Strange, the killer is dead. 

He wasnt at the time and besides people act differently and felt a need to be with their love ones !

[Photoguy21]

21 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Just picked this up on BBC. At a nursery no less! Horrendous.  Why didn’t you just do yourself in. What a sad world!

Totally agree but why, when he was a drug addict before joining the police he was even allowed to join? I know guns are almost available at every 7-11 but he should never have been accepted into the force.

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Aren't there normally packs of soi dogs at many temples? Perhaps those monks could leave his body to them.

Why would they do that? Dogs don't eat dead people. You do understand that a body is just a vehicle?

[Joe Farang]

My wife says that there are normally 70/80 children at the school, but most were missing due to the hard rain. As horrendous as it is, it could have been a lot worse.

[Neeranam]

11 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Totally agree but why, when he was a drug addict before joining the police he was even allowed to join? I know guns are almost available at every 7-11 but he should never have been accepted into the force.

Remember Duang Yubamrung, the son of the deputy PM who was allowed to join the police after being acquitted of shooting a police officer dead in front of 22 witnesses?

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

My wife says that there are normally 70/80 children at the school, but most were missing due to the hard rain. As horrendous as it is, it could have been a lot worse.

Is she from that town? 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

My wife says that there are normally 70/80 children at the school, but most were missing due to the hard rain. As horrendous as it is, it could have been a lot worse.

Yes read that, heavy rain and a broken down school bus fortunately led to many less children there than should have been