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Almost 11 years here and saw only one old farang (50 years+) getting beat up by 4/5 ladyboy on walking street. Didn't see what started the fight.

I have been involve in only one tricky situation, on the highway between chon buri and bangkok, a lunatic minivan driver didn't like that I overtake him and the car in front of him before he does, he chased me and hit the break when he was ahead of my car, casually stop and go out of van (on the right lane) with other car driving 100+km/h on middle and left lane.

He didn't have any weapon with him so I just fake a phone call to police and he left as casually as he stopped.

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In 28 years, unprovoked attacks never, provoked attacks just one - about ten years ago in Bangkok, a very large, very drunk Russian looking for a fight, got one.

I hasten to add I was just a spectator.

 

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On 11/11/2022 at 4:40 PM, Adumbration said:

I have been here a long time.  I have been attacked unprovoked on 3 occasions.

 

And for video footage there is no better example of the Australian bloke years ago who was attacked by thugs outside the Taipan??? bar at the end of Bangla road.  His crime was photographing the thugs beating on some other tourists.

 

He stabbed the thug that was attacking him (he was a charter captain and had a rigging knife in his pocket).  Thug died and he was charged with murder.  But luckily CCTVs caught the incident (showing the dead thug entirely in the wrong) and so he was able to bribe his way out, I think the brown paper envelope was to the tune of a million plus.

 

Anyone in Phuket know what ended up happening to him.  He had a Thai wife and a large charter business at the time.

Taipan is run by scamming Russian mafia thugs and wannabe Thai gangsters. First hand experience in there very recently. An absolute scum hole of a place. A place to avoid at all costs. Just look at the reviews! 

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I was beaten up about 7 years ago in Khon Kaen, for no apparent reason other than I was with a Thai woman, my wife, and not some young girl she's a middle aged woman.

 

We had finished dinner out by the lake and were walking back to our car wen we were approached by 4 young men, late teens, early 20's I guess and for whatever reason decided to get into it with me.

They were all very drunk, and I speak fluent Thai & Lao, and in retrospect I might have been better just keeping my mouth shut.

 

But motor mouth decided I was gonna give as good verbal as I was getting. Bad decision!

 

I ended up with a couple cracked ribs, split lip back eye and a very bruised ego

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I've not seen anything like that in 14 years here... usually someone's mouth or actions provoked it... 

 

And one might question one's judgement to hang around drunk folks, unless you're invited! 

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7 minutes ago, johnc925 said:

I've not seen anything like that in 14 years here... usually someone's mouth or actions provoked it... 

 

And one might question one's judgement to hang around drunk folks, unless you're invited! 

Well not in my case. We were walking on the sidewalk past the lake on the way to our car when they staggered towards us.

 

We tried to walk past them, but they weren't having it. For whatever reason they had decided I was wrong having a Thai woman with me.

 

I look back on it now and it was surreal

 

And I do in retrospect think I should have just shut my mouth, let them rant and I might have avoided a trip to the ER

 

But water under the bridge

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On 11/11/2022 at 6:09 PM, Sparktrader said:

Most farangs couldnt either. Do you think 60yo farangs can fight much?

Yes quite a few of the 60yr old farangs that I know could  fight quite well , most grew up on the streets fighting in the UK in the 60s & 70s  and I assure you most of my friends can handle themselves . Most are still fairly fit and not ready for  the couch potato brigade or to leap on to the gopher or move in to the retirement home and by your statement I would assume that you perhaps strutted the retirement villages with your chest puffed out .

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54 minutes ago, Bravefart said:

Yes quite a few of the 60yr old farangs that I know could  fight quite well , most grew up on the streets fighting in the UK in the 60s & 70s  and I assure you most of my friends can handle themselves . Most are still fairly fit and not ready for  the couch potato brigade or to leap on to the gopher or move in to the retirement home and by your statement I would assume that you perhaps strutted the retirement villages with your chest puffed out .

Delusional to think 60yos can match reflexes with a 25yo or 30yo who can fight. 

 

Not only that injuries take longer to heal.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

I was beaten up about 7 years ago in Khon Kaen, for no apparent reason other than I was with a Thai woman, my wife, and not some young girl she's a middle aged woman.

 

We had finished dinner out by the lake and were walking back to our car wen we were approached by 4 young men, late teens, early 20's I guess and for whatever reason decided to get into it with me.

They were all very drunk, and I speak fluent Thai & Lao, and in retrospect I might have been better just keeping my mouth shut.

 

But motor mouth decided I was gonna give as good verbal as I was getting. Bad decision!

 

I ended up with a couple cracked ribs, split lip back eye and a very bruised ego

Omg , did you report it to police ???

Did you ever see them again?

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Worst I saw was in soi Cowboy. A drunk guy was kicked along the street by 2/3 guys. He was drunk/high and jumped on the go-go stage. When the bouncer tried to pull him off, he tapped his head with his foot! 

 

Khao San Road Thais hate farang and I've seen some uncalled for violence there. I got my nose broken and also been attacked by a ataxi driver with a tyre lever, but defended myself on that occassion. 

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17 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

I was beaten up about 7 years ago in Khon Kaen, for no apparent reason other than I was with a Thai woman, my wife, and not some young girl she's a middle aged woman.

 

We had finished dinner out by the lake and were walking back to our car wen we were approached by 4 young men, late teens, early 20's I guess and for whatever reason decided to get into it with me.

They were all very drunk, and I speak fluent Thai & Lao, and in retrospect I might have been better just keeping my mouth shut.

 

But motor mouth decided I was gonna give as good verbal as I was getting. Bad decision!

 

I ended up with a couple cracked ribs, split lip back eye and a very bruised ego

What did they say to you?

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18 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

I was beaten up about 7 years ago in Khon Kaen, for no apparent reason other than I was with a Thai woman, my wife, and not some young girl she's a middle aged woman.

 

We had finished dinner out by the lake and were walking back to our car wen we were approached by 4 young men, late teens, early 20's I guess and for whatever reason decided to get into it with me.

They were all very drunk, and I speak fluent Thai & Lao, and in retrospect I might have been better just keeping my mouth shut.

 

But motor mouth decided I was gonna give as good verbal as I was getting. Bad decision!

 

I ended up with a couple cracked ribs, split lip back eye and a very bruised ego

I lived in Khon Kaen for 20 years and never got the slightest whiff of trouble, maybe because I don't drink or go to bars. 

When I lived in Leith many years ago and did go to bars, I was in a fight almost every month and saw fights almost every night. 

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15 years in Thailand have never seen any farang been beaten up provoked or not. But 3 times farangs has tried to pick fight with me and my friend for no obvious reason.  Two from UK or USA I believe and one Indian guy.

 

I was sitting down at soi 4 waiting for a guy polish my shoes, Farang come and started to provoke me and said I could not sit there in the stairs, funny he didn't complain to the other sitting in the middle of the stair but to me sitting as far to the side possible. I told him I was just sitting waiting to have my shoes cleaned, and he started to accuse me of being a drug dealer and he said he knew where I had my stash and factory. I tried to explain I'm against all kind of illegal drugs, even cigarettes. He just seamed to be more upset started to poke my shoulder and he told me I would not live longer than a week in Bangkok. I told him been living here 5 years already and I asked how long he have staid in Thailand, he got even more angry, and I just got my shoes back. Then I stood up on the first step of the stairs so I became like 2dm longer than him so I looked down on him. He looked up, said "What the <Deleted>" and walked away.

 

Another time I have been mention in a post about a year ago when my friend try to have a begging girl stop annoying after he bought some packs up gum for a 100 baht, He said he had no more cash and tried to waive her away but she refused, push him in he back with the candy bucket and drag his t-shirt so to try to tell her he don't have more cash showed her his Credit card and asked can you take 100 baht from this. A farang saw it and started to make a mess screaming give her 20 baht, we tried to tell him that he gave 100 already, he was out of control and refused to listen to any of us in many minutes, he didn't listen to the guards that arrived also. He made even a bigger mess and screamed if you don't give her I do and he gave the girl another 100 baht. I wonder what she learned from that episode. Ok its not nice to show a Credit card to a 10 year old begging girl but I wouldn't call it a reason to pick a fight.

 

The Indian guy I bumped into a little bit on the BTS when train suddenly breaked a little bit more than usual, and I said "Katord Krap" and he started ta make a fuzz over I bumped into him and that I tried to say sorry in Thai. He seamed very angry I tried to speak Thai to him. I probably would have even if he looked like Viking.

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5 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

What did they say to you?

So, it's a long time ago now and this answers a couple of other questions.

 

They were ranting on about why I didn't have a woman in farang land, why I had to come to Thailand for lady, it went on and on.

 

My wife laid into them first, told them to 'go home to their mama and sober up'

So they kept on at me and I think it was the point where I told them if they laid off the white whisky their chances with the ladies might be well improved, with some implied references to 'ability' kinda sealed the deal so to speak.

 

Yeah after I got patched up at hospital we went to the cops, usual experience with Thai police, lots of paper, signing statements, never heard a thing.

 

Don't think I ever saw the guys again, but this was an adrenaline moment, and I know this might sound bad, but I have a hard time distinguishing young Thai mens faces, many of them all look the same to me

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16 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

They were ranting on about why I didn't have a woman in farang land, why I had to come to Thailand for lady, it went on and on.

Cause they 90kgs. I chawp hah sip kilos.

 

I never abuse people in Thailand. Too risky. Gun ownership is very high.

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3 hours ago, Eaglekott said:

15 years in Thailand have never seen any farang been beaten up provoked or not. But 3 times farangs has tried to pick fight with me and my friend for no obvious reason.  Two from UK or USA I believe and one Indian guy.

 

I was sitting down at soi 4 waiting for a guy polish my shoes, Farang come and started to provoke me and said I could not sit there in the stairs, funny he didn't complain to the other sitting in the middle of the stair but to me sitting as far to the side possible. I told him I was just sitting waiting to have my shoes cleaned, and he started to accuse me of being a drug dealer and he said he knew where I had my stash and factory. I tried to explain I'm against all kind of illegal drugs, even cigarettes. He just seamed to be more upset started to poke my shoulder and he told me I would not live longer than a week in Bangkok. I told him been living here 5 years already and I asked how long he have staid in Thailand, he got even more angry, and I just got my shoes back. Then I stood up on the first step of the stairs so I became like 2dm longer than him so I looked down on him. He looked up, said "What the <Deleted>" and walked away.

 

Another time I have been mention in a post about a year ago when my friend try to have a begging girl stop annoying after he bought some packs up gum for a 100 baht, He said he had no more cash and tried to waive her away but she refused, push him in he back with the candy bucket and drag his t-shirt so to try to tell her he don't have more cash showed her his Credit card and asked can you take 100 baht from this. A farang saw it and started to make a mess screaming give her 20 baht, we tried to tell him that he gave 100 already, he was out of control and refused to listen to any of us in many minutes, he didn't listen to the guards that arrived also. He made even a bigger mess and screamed if you don't give her I do and he gave the girl another 100 baht. I wonder what she learned from that episode. Ok its not nice to show a Credit card to a 10 year old begging girl but I wouldn't call it a reason to pick a fight.

 

The Indian guy I bumped into a little bit on the BTS when train suddenly breaked a little bit more than usual, and I said "Katord Krap" and he started ta make a fuzz over I bumped into him and that I tried to say sorry in Thai. He seamed very angry I tried to speak Thai to him. I probably would have even if he looked like Viking.

Indians get angry when you say mai ao khrup when they try to sell you a suit.  But its the local language. I never buy clothes from them.

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21 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Delusional to think 60yos can match reflexes with a 25yo or 30yo who can fight. 

 

Not only that injuries take longer to heal.

 

 

 

Ditto the longer to heal!

 

I've never been a bar brawl kinda guy, in fact my Thai encounter was my first ever experience of any kind of physical violence, so the idea that I had any clue how to fight back effectively at my age wasn't happening.

 

But pain I might have shaken off in my 20/30's takes like forever to heal.

 

God Bless pain drugs

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11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I lived in Khon Kaen for 20 years and never got the slightest whiff of trouble, maybe because I don't drink or go to bars. 

When I lived in Leith many years ago and did go to bars, I was in a fight almost every month and saw fights almost every night. 

it's gentrified now.
I'm guessing if you drank you'd be struggling to get a pint for three pounds in Leith now.

I think in your case you could still get into a fight easy enough, though.


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On 11/14/2022 at 8:53 PM, Sparktrader said:

Being fit doesnt win fights. Speed, power and skills win fights.

 

 

Modesty and politeness get more no-score draws than fitness gets wins.

 

Have you ever played the football pools?


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No but I had one bizarre experience back in about 2005. On a road trip with my family, just starting out from Chiang Mai, we stopped for fuel on the superhighway heading out of town. I went to relieve myself at the urinal around back, as one does, and there were a couple of guys doing the same. While we were there, another Thai guy came in, saw me there, and started talking sh*t out loud, to the effect of, "Look at this white guy in here, I guess he's not afraid of getting his a$s kicked. We could take him down." (in thai it was something like, oho, mee kon kaow duay, mun my gluwa don dtet rue? ow mai la?") I took a quick read of the other guys, who seemed uninterested, so I zipped up, turned around, and gave my best expressionless, cold-eyed stare at the talker to let him know I understood what he said. He shuffled off. If those guys had been game, I would have been totally f*cked. Again, it was one event in like 30 years, but still a reminder that there are some psychos out there looking for trouble.

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12 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I lived in Khon Kaen for 20 years and never got the slightest whiff of trouble, maybe because I don't drink or go to bars. 

When I lived in Leith many years ago and did go to bars, I was in a fight almost every month and saw fights almost every night. 

Aye mate. Leith was no joke back in the day.

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On 11/11/2022 at 3:59 PM, ezzra said:

In all my 35 years in this country i'm yet to witness such event, Thais usually don't beat up on foreigners if at all, and if a Thai start a fight it's mostly because he was insulted in a way or his honor and reputation was hurt...

same here 10 years only ever seen my drunk countrymen kick off ..never seen it with Thais ...I'm sure it happens but never seen it

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Lb in bkk once chased me for grabbing his titi uninvited it was a close call.... he could run fast in high heels  ...he meant business

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Yes, this happened to me just yesterday. We sat on the terrace of the hostel at the Pratamnak and tried to talk. We tried because for the second night in a row there was loud music playing in the laundry "Amporn" next door, making it hard to hear each other. At half past eleven I decided to go and ask the music to be turned down a little so that we could talk normally. When I approached the table, it became clear that the guys were drinking. I spoke calmly and respectfully, but suddenly the Thai woman very rudely told me to get out. I have already noticed a couple of times that in situations when Thai women don’t like something, they immediately raise their tone and begin to speak in a commanding tone. At that moment, I still calmly asked why she was talking to me like that)) She behaved as if I should obey her unquestioningly, although she was very rude at that moment. I don’t know what would really be better to do in that situation, but I joined the conflict and also raised my voice. In fact, it all took less than a minute. She stood up so that the chair fell over. After a couple of sentences, she tried to attack me, but her European husband grabbed her and began to hold her. At that moment she was so mad that she twisted around, grabbed a chair and tried to bring it down on my head. Then I realized that it wasn’t worth it and ran away from her. At this time, women from the hostel, with whom we were trying to talk, came up to me, the administrator guy and the man from the table. He didn’t speak English, but he started poking himself in the chest and I saw that he had a badge on his T-shirt. The hostel administrator explained to me that he was a policeman, this was his sister, and this was not the first such situation. She attacked the hostel owner when he came to talk about the same situation. And EVERYONE around began to convince me that I shouldn’t go to the police, because in the end they would blame me, and her friends would say that I attacked her first. And the people at the table really supported her. Her husband high-fived her, even though what she did was drunken animal madness. I would like to understand whether it is true that in the police a Thai will always be more right-wing than a foreigner? What is the best thing to do in such a situation? 

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