Famous Bargirl Lies

[VBF]

21 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Does it give you an extra sensation, having sex with a married woman ?

Usually a stabbing sensation between the shoulder blades.

 

 

Of course that's only when her husband finds out! ????

[Rayafa]

9 hours ago, NextG said:

I also have posted on-topic and have also been the victim of lies.  The difference is that I did not hand over any money in exchange for favours. Once you have done that, you lose any trace of the moral high ground

Oh, I like you guy. I like your thought process. Because you make me laugh.

 

That's what I want to tell you. I am 57 years old, but I have never paid any girl for sex. Never!!!

I always offer girls free sex and they almost always agree. Although old, bald and fat.
They agree because I am a generous man. I give them 1500-2000 baht for a taxi or buy gifts. And they like it, they consider me a real gentleman.

Because they don't feel like prostitutes if a man just pays a taxi for a girl. They are always happy with such an offer.

 

Have you ever given 2000 baht to a girl in Pattaya for a taxi?? I think no.

Accordingly, I always have a moral superiority over prostitutes and no one can prove otherwise.
And you don't have. Because you want to use their body without giving anything in return.

 

And you misunderstood what I wrote about money. Money is just the equivalent of the energy that a man gives to a woman. Money itself is just a way of transferring this energy. You can transfer energy in any other way. Take a girl to a restaurant, buy her clothes, take her on a trip. But for all this you will still pay money. Therefore, it makes no difference whether you buy her a gift or just give her money, the result is the same.

[NextG]

1 hour ago, Rayafa said:

Oh, I like you guy. I like your thought process. Because you make me laugh.

 

That's what I want to tell you. I am 57 years old, but I have never paid any girl for sex. Never!!!

I always offer girls free sex and they almost always agree. Although old, bald and fat.
They agree because I am a generous man. I give them 1500-2000 baht for a taxi or buy gifts. And they like it, they consider me a real gentleman.

Because they don't feel like prostitutes if a man just pays a taxi for a girl. They are always happy with such an offer.

 

Have you ever given 2000 baht to a girl in Pattaya for a taxi?? I think no.

Accordingly, I always have a moral superiority over prostitutes and no one can prove otherwise.
And you don't have. Because you want to use their body without giving anything in return.

 

And you misunderstood what I wrote about money. Money is just the equivalent of the energy that a man gives to a woman. Money itself is just a way of transferring this energy. You can transfer energy in any other way. Take a girl to a restaurant, buy her clothes, take her on a trip. But for all this you will still pay money. Therefore, it makes no difference whether you buy her a gift or just give her money, the result is the same.

Again, your limited imagination runs wild. I do not consort with prostitutes at all. All offers free or otherwise, are rebuffed. 
If someone needs money for essentials and I have it to spare, then I give it freely. I do not exchange money for favours. 
As to your ridiculous statement with regard to buying clothes… of course not! 
In all of my relationships there is free exchange. No taxi paying, no clothes buying… it’s totally ridiculous. It’s seems you know only about women who sell themselves. It is disgusting and pathetic. You actually believe that is how it works!

No… you only consort with that kind of woman and so you believe that to be normal. 
No woman with any self respect would accept such a situation. 
Of course I would always insist on paying for a first date. Any woman who was open for sex on a first date would immediately be rejected as unsuitable. 
I am not so desperate as to accept such a person into my life. 
Sorry my friend, but if you behave like a dog, you will end up with a dog. 
My relationships are on a totally different level from anything you describe. 
You write of only abusive relationships. Though for you, they may seem the norm. 
Of course it is of no concern to me as to how you behave…. it takes all sorts. But do not presume to judge everyone by your (seemingly low) standards. 
If you are happy consorting with low women, then you have met your match. 

[Danderman123]

On 5/4/2023 at 5:41 PM, Rayafa said:

Personally, I am surprised by something else.

My friend's husband is a young man. He is now only 43 years old. He hasn't seen her since 2019. But every month he sends her money. And he knows she's been freelancing all these years.

Even more surprising is that after our conversation, he began to send her even more money. If recently he gave her 500 euros a month (20,000 baht), then after our correspondence he increased her salary.

My friend convinced him that if he gave her more money, she wouldn't need to have a regular customer. It will be enough for her to walk occasionally for a short time.

I have only one explanation for this. The German husband is the psychological slave of this Thai woman. There are almost no real, classic women left in Western Europe. Therefore, real female affection, care and attention are like heroin for him. He lives on happy memories and probably still hopes to be reunited with this woman.

I can't find any other explanation.

I'll give you another explanation: sponsors are idiots.

[Rayafa]

24 minutes ago, NextG said:

In all of my relationships there is free exchange. No taxi paying, no clothes buying… it’s totally ridiculous. It’s seems you know only about women who sell themselves. It is disgusting and pathetic. You actually believe that is how it works!

No… you only consort with that kind of woman and so you believe that to be normal. 
No woman with any self respect would accept such a situation.

Absolutely all women sell themselves. Only they sell themselves in different ways. It's like selling goods at retail and wholesale.

 

Some women sell themselves to different men at retail. These are called prostitutes.
Others sell themselves in bulk, they are called - wife.

 

If you still do not understand this, it means that you are still too young.

Your second delusion is based on the fact that you prefer self-sufficient women who provide for themselves. Or who have money from their husbands or boyfriends. That is, you simply parasitize on them and men like you are called gigolos.

 

Then confess that you are a gigolo. And our argument will lose its meaning.

 

As a rule, “alfonso” in Russian refers to men living on partial or full support from a woman in exchange for intimate relationships, and also, more broadly, for some other personal services. The name comes from the name of the hero-lover of the play by the French writer Dumas son "Monsieur Alphonse" (French "Monsieur Alphonse").

[NextG]

1 hour ago, Rayafa said:

Absolutely all women sell themselves. Only they sell themselves in different ways. It's like selling goods at retail and wholesale.

 

Some women sell themselves to different men at retail. These are called prostitutes.
Others sell themselves in bulk, they are called - wife.

 

If you still do not understand this, it means that you are still too young.

Your second delusion is based on the fact that you prefer self-sufficient women who provide for themselves. Or who have money from their husbands or boyfriends. That is, you simply parasitize on them and men like you are called gigolos.

 

Then confess that you are a gigolo. And our argument will lose its meaning.

 

As a rule, “alfonso” in Russian refers to men living on partial or full support from a woman in exchange for intimate relationships, and also, more broadly, for some other personal services. The name comes from the name of the hero-lover of the play by the French writer Dumas son "Monsieur Alphonse" (French "Monsieur Alphonse").

Please refer to what I wrote earlier; prostitutes and feral women. If you know nothing else, it will not be possible for you to understand anything that I have written. 
It seems that you will not ever experience the kind of relationship that I have described. You will exist in that pit until you die. 
Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy. 

[Pattaya57]

Anyone else wish these 2 would just pm their argument instead of taking up 2 pages of thread? Just wondering ????

???? ???? ???? 

 

[NextG]

Just now, Pattaya57 said:

Anyone else wish these 2 would just pm their argument instead of taking up 2 pages of thread? Just wondering ????

There is no argument, but a discussion. If you do not wish to read it, there is a perfectly functioning Ignore facility. 
Do you have anything of interest to add to the thread?

[Pattaya57]

5 minutes ago, NextG said:

There is no argument, but a discussion. If you do not wish to read it, there is a perfectly functioning Ignore facility. 
Do you have anything of interest to add to the thread?

Nah, thread has turned into self proclaimed handsome guy who never pays for sex vs openly admitting fat bald guy who constamtly gives gifts to women he meets.

How can I add to that ???? 

 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Rayafa said:

Absolutely all women sell themselves. Only they sell themselves in different ways. It's like selling goods at retail and wholesale.

 

Some women sell themselves to different men at retail. These are called prostitutes.
Others sell themselves in bulk, they are called - wife.

 

If you still do not understand this, it means that you are still too young.

Your second delusion is based on the fact that you prefer self-sufficient women who provide for themselves. Or who have money from their husbands or boyfriends. That is, you simply parasitize on them and men like you are called gigolos.

 

Then confess that you are a gigolo. And our argument will lose its meaning.

 

As a rule, “alfonso” in Russian refers to men living on partial or full support from a woman in exchange for intimate relationships, and also, more broadly, for some other personal services. The name comes from the name of the hero-lover of the play by the French writer Dumas son "Monsieur Alphonse" (French "Monsieur Alphonse").

Norhing beats a gentleman with huge ego ????????

[NextG]

17 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Nah, thread has turned into self proclaimed handsome guy who never pays for sex vs openly admitting fat bald guy who constamtly gives gifts to women he meets.

How can I add to that ???? 

 

Oh look, it seems that you want to contribute to the ‘argument’. 
Best you stick to the topic if that is not the case. Rayafa and I have had our discussion. If you have nothing to add…

[NextG]

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Norhing beats a gentleman with huge ego ????????

Of course not many are proud of having absolutely low standards. 
It’s not about ego, but about the standards to which you adhere. 
Low or no standards and you can convince yourself that anything you do is ok. 
I have seen the devastation generated by so many here leaving their brains at the door, time and time again. I do not base my relationships on money, ever. 
If you don’t have a deeper connection, you are asking for trouble. Many who do not heed the warning will find it. 
If it makes you feel more comfortable to describe it as ego, you can.

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, NextG said:

Of course not many are proud of having absolutely low standards. 
It’s not about ego, but about the standards to which you adhere. 
Low or no standards and you can convince yourself that anything you do is ok. 
I have seen the devastation generated by so many here leaving their brains at the door, time and time again. I do not base my relationships on money, ever. 
If you don’t have a deeper connection, you are asking for trouble. Many who do not heed the warning will find it. 
If it makes you feel more comfortable to describe it as ego, you can.

 

But she's really pretty, well fit and weights 37 kilos and got a sexy smile 

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, NextG said:

Of course not many are proud of having absolutely low standards. 
It’s not about ego, but about the standards to which you adhere. 
Low or no standards and you can convince yourself that anything you do is ok. 
I have seen the devastation generated by so many here leaving their brains at the door, time and time again. I do not base my relationships on money, ever. 
If you don’t have a deeper connection, you are asking for trouble. Many who do not heed the warning will find it. 
If it makes you feel more comfortable to describe it as ego, you can.

 

High Moral and dicipline is good if you can live up to it, and you earn it.

 

To many just talk

[NextG]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

High Moral and dicipline is good if you can live up to it, and you earn it.

 

To many just talk

So far, so good. 

[Pattaya57]

The biggest lie I liked was in the 2000's when girls wore red and green badges. Red badges never go with customer so when you end up with one you felt super special ???? 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

The biggest lie I liked was in the 2000's when girls wore red and green badges. Red badges never go with customer so when you end up with one you felt super special ???? 

Didn't they wear red badges to show that they were having their period and didn't go with customers ?

[Pattaya57]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Didn't they wear red badges to show that they were having their period and didn't go with customers ?

No, red badges were for waitresses who supposedly only served drinks....

challenge accepted ???? 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

No, red badges were for waitresses who supposedly only served drinks....

challenge accepted ???? 

 

What, so they weren't bargirls and they had sex with you because they liked you ?

   Did they do it for free ?

[Pattaya57]

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What, so they weren't bargirls and they had sex with you because they liked you ?

   Did they do it for free ?

No, barfine was same as green badges (lost wages) and of course they needed a 1000 baht for taxi next day ???? 

 

Otherwise, didn't have to pay for my fake new girlfriend, ok maybe breakfast lunch and many lady drinks ???? 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

No, barfine was same as green badges (lost wages) and of course they needed a 1000 baht for taxi next day ???? 

 

Otherwise, didn't have to pay ????

 

 

Sounds like a marketing scheme .

Girls wear Red badges and guys think they are getting a non prostitute , although they are actually prostitutes because they go with customers  .

   I wouldn't have fell for that 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

15 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

No, red badges were for waitresses who supposedly only served drinks....

challenge accepted ???? 

 

Oh I see .

This is a famous bar girl lie thread and the Red badges is an example .

   Now I understand 

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, Rayafa said:

Have you ever given 2000 baht to a girl in Pattaya for a taxi?? I think no.

What she spends it on is her business..... same same but different!

Yours still gets a 50 baht WIN home!

[actonion]

If you finniss........ GET OFF 

[Rayafa]

I want to tell you how I first checked my girlfriend for a lie. It was very easy to do this.

 

Earlier I wrote that my girlfriend said that she works in a beauty salon and rarely freelances after work and goes with clients only for a short time 1-3 times a week due to lack of money.

The first time we met intermittently. I gave her 1500 baht for the meeting. And one day she arrived with the smell of alcohol. I was surprised that an employee of a beauty salon drinks alcohol at work.

I met her on the site thaifriendly, her profile said that she was looking for a friend for a serious relationship.

 

So I opened two additional questionnaires. One for my friend who was also in Pattaya at the time and lived in Protarmak. He is very ugly and very fat. And I opened a second fake profile, with someone else's photos of a handsome athletic guy, 45 years old, who supposedly lives in a hotel next to me.
After that, I began to correspond with my girlfriend at the same time from three profiles.
She answered all three willingly. And immediately agreed to meet for a short time both with men and with my friend and fake.

 

I agreed with my fat friend and he agreed to meet her for 1500 baht. And from his profile, I signed up for 3 pm. And from my profile, I made an appointment with her at 5 pm. At three o'clock in the afternoon she was with my friend at the hotel.

At half past five, half an hour before meeting me, I wrote from the second fake profile of the guy that he was ready to meet now for 1200 baht for a short time. And if you like everything, then for a long time for 2000 baht.

 

My girlfriend immediately agreed. She texted me that she would be two hours late because she urgently needed to go shopping. And she went for a fake to a nearby hotel.

When she arrived at the hotel, the fake apologized and wrote to her that he could not meet. Since his plumbing broke down and a specialist mechanic came into the room.

 

Beloved girl immediately joyfully wrote to me that she had already arrived. I asked why so early?? After all, she had plans to go to the store. She replied that she had postponed everything, because she loved me very much and wanted to meet as soon as possible.

 

We had sex and I suggested that she stay the night and give 3,000 baht for a taxi in the morning. She agreed. But I immediately wrote to her from a fake profile that the mechanic had done his job and the client was free. And that he is willing to pay 2500 baht for a night with my girlfriend.

 

And she immediately remembered that she had some urgent business and she could not stay with me for the night. She took 1500 baht from me and went to a fake client. Haha. ????

[bignok]

21 hours ago, NextG said:

Of course not many are proud of having absolutely low standards. 
It’s not about ego, but about the standards to which you adhere. 
Low or no standards and you can convince yourself that anything you do is ok. 
I have seen the devastation generated by so many here leaving their brains at the door, time and time again. I do not base my relationships on money, ever. 
If you don’t have a deeper connection, you are asking for trouble. Many who do not heed the warning will find it. 
If it makes you feel more comfortable to describe it as ego, you can.

 

Who cares what others do. Only unhappy people care so much about the lives of others.

[NextG]

30 minutes ago, bignok said:

Who cares what others do. Only unhappy people care so much about the lives of others.

I don’t care; it’s a discussion board. People have different perspectives. We are discussing them. I live and let live. 

[CharlieH]

Reported post removed.

[NextG]

1 hour ago, Rayafa said:

I want to tell you how I first checked my girlfriend for a lie. It was very easy to do this.

 

Earlier I wrote that my girlfriend said that she works in a beauty salon and rarely freelances after work and goes with clients only for a short time 1-3 times a week due to lack of money.

The first time we met intermittently. I gave her 1500 baht for the meeting. And one day she arrived with the smell of alcohol. I was surprised that an employee of a beauty salon drinks alcohol at work.

I met her on the site thaifriendly, her profile said that she was looking for a friend for a serious relationship.

 

So I opened two additional questionnaires. One for my friend who was also in Pattaya at the time and lived in Protarmak. He is very ugly and very fat. And I opened a second fake profile, with someone else's photos of a handsome athletic guy, 45 years old, who supposedly lives in a hotel next to me.
After that, I began to correspond with my girlfriend at the same time from three profiles.
She answered all three willingly. And immediately agreed to meet for a short time both with men and with my friend and fake.

 

I agreed with my fat friend and he agreed to meet her for 1500 baht. And from his profile, I signed up for 3 pm. And from my profile, I made an appointment with her at 5 pm. At three o'clock in the afternoon she was with my friend at the hotel.

At half past five, half an hour before meeting me, I wrote from the second fake profile of the guy that he was ready to meet now for 1200 baht for a short time. And if you like everything, then for a long time for 2000 baht.

 

My girlfriend immediately agreed. She texted me that she would be two hours late because she urgently needed to go shopping. And she went for a fake to a nearby hotel.

When she arrived at the hotel, the fake apologized and wrote to her that he could not meet. Since his plumbing broke down and a specialist mechanic came into the room.

 

Beloved girl immediately joyfully wrote to me that she had already arrived. I asked why so early?? After all, she had plans to go to the store. She replied that she had postponed everything, because she loved me very much and wanted to meet as soon as possible.

 

We had sex and I suggested that she stay the night and give 3,000 baht for a taxi in the morning. She agreed. But I immediately wrote to her from a fake profile that the mechanic had done his job and the client was free. And that he is willing to pay 2500 baht for a night with my girlfriend.

 

And she immediately remembered that she had some urgent business and she could not stay with me for the night. She took 1500 baht from me and went to a fake client. Haha. ????

An interesting report nonetheless…????

[Rayafa]

I can keep writing for a long time.

The conclusion is this. If you think that your Thai girl loves you and that you are alone with her, never believe it.

You are just a source of money for her, and she can have several dozen like you. You are just her job.

But at the same time, Thai girls do their job very well. They give the highest level of service if she likes you at least a little and pays well. You will never get such service even from a real wife.