Six in 10 Americans don't want Trump to be president again: 2024 poll

[heybruce]

On 3/29/2023 at 6:21 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trumps treatment by the unbelievers isn't too different to the way the Romans treated Jesus 

Another cultist viewing Trump with religious awe.

[heybruce]

15 hours ago, Jackbenimble said:

i think you'll find he was the one who coined the phrase "fake news" and was pilloried as expected by the people he accused of spreading it. Then he won the elction anyway against all the odds and all the so-called predictive polls. Because he was exposing and fighting corruption in government. Lets face it, backing Billary really blew up in their faces as is backing Biden now. Trump needs to get back in and finish what he started.

Please give an example of Trump exposing and fighting corruption.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, 2baht said:

An indictment has been issued this morning by a grand jury! A criminal one term loser! Yo Stormy! 

Getting ahead of yourself there. He's not a criminal till convicted. Innocent till proven, or do you disagree with that?

[2baht]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Getting ahead of yourself there. He's not a criminal till convicted. Innocent till proven, or do you disagree with that?

True, but I imagine you believe the election was stolen! ????

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

True, but I imagine you believe the election was stolen! ????

Whatever my opinion on the election, that's in the past and is irrelevant now.

[Tug]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Getting ahead of yourself there. He's not a criminal till convicted. Innocent till proven, or do you disagree with that?

Send him you credit card # quick your hero needs your money now more than ever lol ???? 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/29/2023 at 11:26 PM, 2baht said:

Ah, they physically crucified Jesus....I guess one can only hope!

It's the rampant desire to physically destroy Trump that causes some of us to support Trump against such undemocratic attitudes.

[2baht]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever my opinion on the election, that's in the past and is irrelevant now.

Not irrelevant to him, he will never let it go, of current relevance is the $130,000 that Cohen paid to Stormy Daniels on Trumps behalf!

[2baht]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's the rampant desire to physically destroy Trump that causes some of us to support Trump against such undemocratic attitudes.

It's also what brings out Democrat voters in huge numbers! The more BS he sprouts the more he buries himself!

[Isaan sailor]

I wonder what percentage of Democrats (with citizenship and a heartbeat), want Joe and Kamala back….

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said:

I wonder what percentage of Democrats (with citizenship and a heartbeat), want Joe and Kamala back….

Good point. However nothing these days surprises me anymore. I half expect to see Hillary trying again.

[heybruce]

55 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's the rampant desire to physically destroy Trump that causes some of us to support Trump against such undemocratic attitudes.

Undemocratic attitudes?  It wasn't Trump opponents who invaded the Capitol in an attempt to violently prevent the certification of a legitimate election result.

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Undemocratic attitudes?  It wasn't Trump opponents who invaded the Capitol in an attempt to violently prevent the certification of a legitimate election result.

They did question that result and they were protesting  trying to keep the democratic process .

   They were protesting in favour of democracy , than letting losers steal the election 

[newnative]

Per today's news I'm looking forward to his 'perp walk'.  Hope he puts his suit jacket over his head to cover his face like all the scum do.  Lock him up already.

[heybruce]

27 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

They did question that result and they were protesting  trying to keep the democratic process .

   They were protesting in favour of democracy , than letting losers steal the election 

Seriously?  In spite of all the recounts, audits, and court cases that determined the election results were fair and legitimate, you think it's acceptable to storm the Capitol to prevent the certification of the election?

 

So in your mind it's democratic to ignore all rules and logic, declare you don't believe the clear election results and overthrow the government.  That's not democracy, it's anarchy.

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Seriously?  In spite of all the recounts, audits, and court cases that determined the election results were fair and legitimate, you think it's acceptable to storm the Capitol to prevent the certification of the election?

 

So in your mind it's democratic to ignore all rules and logic, declare you don't believe the clear election results and overthrow the government.  That's not democracy, it's anarchy.

At the time, they thought that there had been fraud in the election and they were demonstrating  to uphold the democratic process .

   There were widespread allegations of fraudulent activity and that is what they were protesting about 

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

At the time, they thought that there had been fraud in the election and they were demonstrating  to uphold the democratic process .

   There were widespread allegations of fraudulent activity and that is what they were protesting about 

I’m glad you accept that trump lost the election how do you feel about the continuing lies by trump about it and tho obvious scam to bilk his followers out of their money ???? over the lie?not to mention the damage it does to our democracy?

[2baht]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

At the time, they thought that there had been fraud in the election and they were demonstrating  to uphold the democratic process .

And was there fraud in the election??? Was the insurrection justified??? Or was it just instigated by a sore and sorry one term loser!

 

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2023 by 2baht

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

And was there fraud in the election???

A Yes answer is regarded as a conspiracy theory and conspiracy  theories' are not allowed , So I will have to answer "No" 

[pomchop]

21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

At the time, they thought that there had been fraud in the election and they were demonstrating  to uphold the democratic process .

   There were widespread allegations of fraudulent activity and that is what they were protesting about 

 Why did they think there had been fraud?  gee could it be because trump and the right wing media told lie after lie after lie to mislead the kool aide cult into fomenting a coup attempt?  If they wanted to uphold the democratic process why do 70% of republicans to this day continue to support the BIG LIE when anyone with an IQ in triple digits knows it is all BS?  

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, pomchop said:

 Why did they think there had been fraud?  gee could it be because trump and the right wing media told lie after lie after lie to mislead the kool aide cult into fomenting a coup attempt?  If they wanted to uphold the democratic process why do 70% of republicans to this day continue to support the BIG LIE when anyone with an IQ in triple digits knows it is all BS?  

 

I seem to recall that they questioned the unusual amount of votes sent in by post and all voting for the same person 

[thaibeachlovers]

27 minutes ago, 2baht said:

And was there fraud in the election??? Was the insurrection justified??? Or was it just instigated by a sore and sorry one term loser!

 

 

 

 

If they had a proper, independent investigation we might find out the answer to that.

[2baht]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If they had a proper, independent investigation we might find out the answer to that.

I guess this is just photoshopped, right?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If they had a proper, independent investigation we might find out the answer to that.

60 court cases that reached the “unequivocal” conclusion that the former Republican president’s claims were unsupportable 

 

[heybruce]

58 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

At the time, they thought that there had been fraud in the election and they were demonstrating  to uphold the democratic process .

   There were widespread allegations of fraudulent activity and that is what they were protesting about 

There were not widespread allegations of fraud, there were nonsensical allegations put out by Trump and his team of psychotics, amplified by Faux News pundits who didn't believe them.

[heybruce]

22 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If they had a proper, independent investigation we might find out the answer to that.

There were recounts, audits, and rulings by Republican and Trump appointed judges.  All reached the same conclusion, the election was fair and the result legitimate.  No allegation of fraud stood up to any kind of scrutiny.  What will a "proper, independent investigation" investigate?

[heybruce]

41 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I seem to recall that they questioned the unusual amount of votes sent in by post and all voting for the same person 

You mean the predicted unusual number of mail-in ballots during a pandemic?  Most coming from people voting for the party that did not deny that Covid was a legitimate health emergency and that did not want to wait in crowded indoor polling stations.

 

Every allegation of voter fraud was investigated.  Only a trivial number were found to be legitimate, and they were mostly Republican votes.

[newnative]

34 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I seem to recall that they questioned the unusual amount of votes sent in by post and all voting for the same person 

    Yes, and thank goodness for that!  Biden, knowing the election is a race, wisely encouraged voters to start the race early and vote in advance by mail, which they did in record numbers.  And, yes, your 'same person'--Biden--received the majority of the votes cast by mail.   Dumb as a doorknob Trump, against the sound advice of the Republican Party, repeatedly and loudly encouraged his voters to hold their votes and not start the race until Election Day--which they did.

    So, intelligence-challenged Trump handed Biden a vast head start in the race to get voters to cast their votes.  Biden had months to find his voters and get their votes mailed in, Trump had just the hours of Election Day.  A case could be made that had Trump also early and strongly embraced mail-in voting he might have been able to get enough extra votes to win some of the close states he lost and secure an electoral win through the cursed Electoral College, even though he would have lost the popular vote badly, as he did in 2016.  

[candide]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

There were recounts, audits, and rulings by Republican and Trump appointed judges.  All reached the same conclusion, the election was fair and the result legitimate.  No allegation of fraud stood up to any kind of scrutiny.  What will a "proper, independent investigation" investigate?

It's pathetic that we already discussed it extensively long time ago, and some people still come up with the same election fraud B.S.

It's hopeless.....

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, candide said:

It's pathetic that we already discussed it extensively long time ago, and some people still come up with the same election fraud B.S.

It's hopeless.....

For the maga cultists. yes.

Write them off like flat earthers.