British Man Arrested After Attacking a Tuk Tuk Taxi Driver in Phuket – VIDEO

[VBF]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

No one needs to be ashamed of being older... 

 

... the boomer part is about having an hinged imbalanced judgement of younger people because back in their day.... 

 

The only difference is that your optics have changed, you are viewing life from the ‘outside’ when observing young people, you’ve forgotten a lot of the stuff that happened around and that conveniently fits into your confirmation bias that ‘younger people today are worse than back in the day’.. when the reality is social media has simply made them more visible...

... Back in the day you’d never even have heard about this event... 

 

So yes,... be embarrassed as you’ve allowed your bias to kneecap your critical thought.

 

THAT is where I disagree with you. My "mischief" in my younger days never involved violence or causing permanent harm to others. Nor did I fail to show respect to authorities if approached.

There are some very polite and well-behaved younger people about, but society in the form of the "PC and Woke" crowd seems to not want to PUNISH those who transgress.

Hence my earlier comment about lack of discipline. What you term as my bias is simply that I'd prefer to live without fear and know that if anyone harmed me, THEY would be the ones to suffer. That seems fair to me.

[NorthernRyland]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

I had it hard time making it out. The taxi driver hit the tourists? I'll watch it again.

Looks like the tourists got off their bike and punched someone. I have no idea what happened.

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The Brits were probably moments away from having a machete pulled on them... 

Yes! The brave young Brit just decided to go for a preemtive strike ????

Indeed... it was perhaps pre-emptive from the optics of any of us who have been here any length of time.... because as things get heated this was clearly a situation whereby given the area and time violence was going to rear its ugly head sooner rather than later... 

 

But... I doubt pre-emptive in the mind of the British thug... he was just being a thug... just like the Thai guys who tried to attack him as he fled.

[FritsSikkink]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Ok... so its not a case of... 'If you drive into a vehicle, you pay the damage'... so its clearly not 'end of'.

 

Because, IF and accident happens there also has to be a discussion... So your dumbed down simplification ‘end of’ suggesting isn’t quite as simple is it ????

 

 

For me it is, damage will be repaired by a shop i choose.

[VBF]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

Indeed... it was perhaps pre-emptive from the optics of any of us who have been here any length of time.... because as things get heated this was clearly a situation whereby given the area and time violence was going to rear its ugly head sooner rather than later... 

 

But... I doubt pre-emptive in the mind of the British thug... he was just being a thug... just like the Thai guys who tried to attack him as he fled.

So you agree he was a thug, but disagree with my comments about discipline?  Mixed messages Mr Smith?

[zyphodb]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

I had it hard time making it out. The taxi driver hit the tourists? I'll watch it again.

No he didn't, but you could see the heated argument, probably about a hugely inflated amount for a scratch or two, not justifying him being sucker punched but the Brits were just about to get mobbed by Thais, so I do get it, to a point. 

 I was just pointing out that it was a somewhat more complicated situation...

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

THAT is where I disagree with you. My "mischief" in my younger days never involved violence or causing permanent harm to others. Nor did I fail to show respect to authorities if approached.

You are using personal anecdote and projecting that onto the lives of millions of younger people decades ago...  The fact remains that there were many thugs and people misbehaving decades ago, just as there are today. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

There are some very polite and well-behaved younger people about, but society in the form of the "PC and Woke" crowd seems to not want to PUNISH those who transgress.

My Wife and out were out late in the UK on NYE... loads of young people around, I was quite surprised at how the ‘youth of today’ weren’t quiet as loud, mischievous and obnoxious as they seemed in my day.

Just anecdote of course, I’m sure terrible stuff also happens.

 

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

Hence my earlier comment about lack of discipline. What you term as my bias is simply that I'd prefer to live without fear and know that if anyone harmed me, THEY would be the ones to suffer. That seems fair to me.

I agree with that...  But, sadly...  in Thailand violence as a response to situations like this is common place... amongst Thai’s the penalty would be extremely limited...  I dont want to defend this guy but also do not see why his penalty should be any different from that a Thai would receive... (i.e. slap on the wrist, 500 baht and a wai of apology). 

[sikishrory]

1 hour ago, Bepah umayun said:

I've never such a nice "pointing" picture! A masterpiece.

point of the year so far for me

[thai006]

Red card for this guy and deport him 

don’t need people like that in Thailand 

[Purdey]

It still amazes me that people don't realize there are CC cameras everywhere these days but people think they won't get caught. These guys are idiots who don't think, just react. Charged with assault, they deserve prison time and blacklisting. Mind you, The Daily Mail will have a screaming headline, "British Boot Boys Brutally Blacklisted."

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, VBF said:

So you agree he was a thug, but disagree with my comments about discipline?  Mixed messages Mr Smith?

No doubt he behaved like a thug... with regards to discipline, his penalty should be no worse than a Thai would receive. I don't believe he should be treated any differently just because he’s a westerner. 

 

 

 

 

[VBF]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

So you grew up in the 50s or 60s where the Kray twins ran London peacefully? Or maybe you are a Yank and Al Capone was peacefully running Chicago. 

Two punches does not deserve imprisonment, especially when provoked and will not happen here. The guy just had too much to drink and forgot where he was. In Manchester, this is normal behavior if anyone tries to rob you of money, like the taxi driver probably was. If it was a few hundred baht, they would just have paid.

 

Laughable.  The Kray thugs were far from "peacefully" - they ran PARTS of London (mainly the East End) with a reign of fear, as did the Richardsons in another part of London. (south of the Thames)

As for "in Manchester etc" that is precisely my point. The authorities  in Manchester or wherever SHOULD have the power to deal with such thugs firmly, INCLUDING imprisonment and / or causing physical discomfort to them.

That's the point...these thugs grew up in UK being allowed to get away with anti-social behaviour, therefore when they travel, they carry their attitudes with them.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, thai006 said:

Red card for this guy and deport him 

don’t need people like that in Thailand 

Where to depart all the Thai’s who behave the same ??? 

 

Nowhere needs people like this... BUT... people should also be treated equally. 

Edited May 11, 2023 by richard_smith237

[volsfan]

In a civilized society, a call to the rental shop owner and the insurance would be around to sort things out. That is why you pay the deposit after all.

 

Unfortunately this is not a civilized society and so the tuk-tuk owner will feel free to demand the first exorbitant amount that comes to mind, and back it up with the threat of violence by the crowd of AN posters, I mean Thai thugs waiting for a sign for the beatings to commence.

 

Anyone who believes a civilized negotiation was possible in this scenario has never been to Thailand before.

 

And, of course, the police will all be snuggled away in bed despite the frequency of such events.

[VBF]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

No doubt he behaved like a thug... with regards to discipline, his penalty should be no worse than a Thai would receive. I don't believe he should be treated any differently just because he’s a westerner. 

 

I agree with that so perhaps the Thai penalty for such behaviour is also too lenient? Or is there an element of local bias or corruption to be considered? 

[goldenbrwn1]

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

I actually hope they get their holiday extended.  Give them separate accommodation for 30 days. Charge with guilty and note it on their records as well as blacklist them

 

Will be interesting to see how the British rags make them look like they are the victim 

Doubt that, they are white football hooligan looking.  Got to love the broad brushed remarks about  Brits here though.  Young men drunk, likes a fight ….this must be a new phenomena. Yeh naughty sucker punch …if only they fought fair like their hosts….. 

 

Maybe the tuk tuk driver started it? But unlikely as they are usually great guys with impeccable behaviour.  The young man has made a mistake , he will have consequences far worse than a local, I hope he learns a hard lesson from this. 

Edited May 11, 2023 by goldenbrwn1

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, VBF said:

I agree with that so perhaps the Thai penalty for such behaviour is also too lenient? Or is there an element of local bias or corruption to be considered? 

I think the penalties for aggravated assault are too lenient in many countries and have been for a very long time.. Particularly for the aggressor....  particularly so in Thailand. 

 

And yes... there may well be some local bias involved in the decision regarding the penalty by the police who may well, inflate ‘damages’ knowing they’ll take their cut. 

 

This could go either way... 500 baht and a fine...

OR, recalling the story about the guy who played ‘grab-ass’ on the wrong female and was charged 200,000 baht for sexual assault this could be a 100,000 baht penalty (as Neeranam wrote)...  with the police taking a nice cut of course !!!! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 11, 2023 by richard_smith237

[chacha boom]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Why does it 'seem' to always involve Brits, usually younger ones, in these type of cases. have they stopped teaching 'manners and politeness' in that country?

 

It all comes down to their anglo-american culture. Just be glad most of their young american brothers don't have a passport...

[LOG54]

2 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

No he didn't, but you could see the heated argument, probably about a hugely inflated amount for a scratch or two, not justifying him being sucker punched but the Brits were just about to get mobbed by Thais, so I do get it, to a point. 

 I was just pointing out that it was a somewhat more complicated situation...

Not only UK, many other European countries have this same type of individuals..

Here things are very simple

. One hit a parked tuk tuk..

. Full gang were on bikes, no helmet, surely no insurance neither proper driving licence and half drunk

. One guy decides to hit the tuk tuk victim instead of nicely find an agreement regarding compensation..

Tuk tuk driver might have asked too much..but quietly talking with him surely could have solved the problem.. and if legally covered..it could have been an insurance issue.

Problem is this type of kid have limited education, supporting parents who allow them to badly behave, used to wrong European behaviour, used to lenient court decisions in Europe, thought they can do anything in Thailand, and the bad habit to think punching solves problems and doesn t have consequences..

One day you have to pay the bill and take a good lesson.

And yes, better for them they fled the scene and surely better for them to leave Phuket before meeting the tuk tuk gang

I have no compassion for this type of guy..

Have a good day

 

[Toby1947]

Good on him, the little sh#t was probably trying to extort money like they all do. Advise plant your feet harder before throwing the left hook 

[VBF]

8 minutes ago, chacha boom said:

It all comes down to their anglo-american culture. Just be glad most of their young american brothers don't have a passport...

Posted in wrong place - (replied to wrong poster) sorry 

Edited May 11, 2023 by VBF

[mikeymike100]

6 minutes ago, chacha boom said:

It all comes down to their anglo-american culture. Just be glad most of their young american brothers don't have a passport...

Anglo American culture, I don't follow? These guys were from Manchester, England

Edited May 11, 2023 by mikeymike100

[VBF]

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think the penalties for aggravated assault are too lenient in many countries and have been for a very long time.. Particularly for the aggressor....  particularly so in Thailand. 

 

And yes... there may well be some local bias involved in the decision regarding the penalty by the police who may well, inflate ‘damages’ knowing they’ll take their cut. 

 

This could go either way... 500 baht and a fine...

OR, recalling the story about the guy who played ‘grab-ass’ on the wrong female and was charged 200,000 baht for sexual assault this could be a 100,000 baht penalty (as Neeranam wrote)...  with the police taking a nice cut of course !!!! 

 

 So, curiously, despite the fact that you took a shot at me for being a "boomer", we're now agreeing??

Oh well, it's nice to be agreeable ????

[chacha boom]

The term Anglo-American is sometimes defined as including English-speaking countries around the world with similar values and demographics, including the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand.

[mikeymike100]

15 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Too much to drink, on a bike, no helmet, start a fight and run away. Typical guys who are going to cry for a Go fund me soon.

Quite so, are these the 'quality' tourists that Thailand want? Probably not.

The problem is they come here on holiday to have a good time and think they can do anything they want? Hopefully they will learn a lesson, but I doubt it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[IndomitableSpirit]

A lot of British get involve with fights and all in Thailand, are they like that in other countries they visit or just in Thailand?

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, VBF said:

So, curiously, despite the fact that you took a shot at me for being a "boomer", we're now agreeing??

Oh well, it's nice to be agreeable ????

I suspect you ‘quoted the wrong post’.... (such a boomer thing to do !!!...  ???? all in jest no offence meant and hope you are thick skinned enough to take the ribbing and of course throw some back in my direction !!)... 

 

Our opinions on punishment are perhaps in alignment...  But I don’t think kids today are any worse than they have every been.....   their actions are simply a lot more visible than they were, had social media being as prevalent years ago we’d see the same degree of utter ’tw_ttery’ that we see today... 

 

 

 

 

[JustAnotherHun]

3 minutes ago, LOG54 said:

Not only UK, many other European countries have this same type of individuals..

 

Agree. Behavior like that is not a matter of nationality or "anglo-american culture".

Why there are more Brits in news like this? Because there are more Brits coming to Thailand than Germans, Italiens or Dutch. So easy.

[VBF]

1 minute ago, IndomitableSpirit said:

A lot of British get involve with fights and all in Thailand, are they like that in other countries they visit or just in Thailand?

Sadly for some of my countrymen...yes. There are a few who seem to want to cause trouble wherever they go....my earlier comments about lack of discipline and "PC" etc may explain, though NOT excuse them.

[newbee2022]

Again these pesty farangs......and then attacking one of the poorest......ban them from reentering the country if they can't behave properly ????