2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Far from done, half of the US can see the false claims. 

 

Yes, half the nation (at least) recognize Trumps claims as BS.  It's sad that the rest ignore the obvious.

55 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

I suggest Trump's POTUS run is only to escape legal jeopardy.

 

Otherwise he  would have been satisfied with his grift from donors/supporters and his past POTUS position.

 

His playbook has always been to seek delay in any court action.

 

Although Jack Smith is seeking a 'speed trial' and Florida has a 'rocket docket' policy,  I would suggest Judge Cannon based on her past performance, may grant Trump a stay until at least the GOP Primaries. next year.

 

Then Trump, as it is DOJ policy not to prosecute candidates during elections, he may get to election day where he thinks he may find a way to run out the clock.

 

Escaping legal jeopardy isn't the only reason.  Look at all the money he's raked in, and will continue to rake in, from the suckers who believe him.

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

Which is why he committed the great sacrifice of putting his business in a blind trust so there could be no question about his dedication to making America great again....oh wait a minute...

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

trump is first, foremost and only all about trump.

 

If trump cared about the US and making it better, he would not have stolen highly classified documents and kept them in an insecure location.

 

Note the statement from SC Jack Smith:

 

“The classified documents TRUMP stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries; United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.

“The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents could put at risk the national security of the United States, foreign relations, the safety of the United States military, and human sources and the continued viability of sensitive intelligence collection methods,”

 

trump self-serving and illegal actions jeopardize US national security and the safety of clandestine intelligence assets, not the actions of someone who wants to make the US better.

20 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

Right.  Just like he really wanted Trump University to give people a valuable education.  ????

9 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

trump is first, foremost and only all about trump.

 

If trump cared about the US and making it better, he would not have stolen highly classified documents and kept them in an insecure location.

If it was all about Trump, he'd be on one of his beautiful golf courses every day.

He doesn't need the money! 

He has not been convicted of anything, and won't be.

Reported inflammatory remarks removed. 

46 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

You cannot seriously believe this..........or can you???? LOL.

53 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Right.  Just like he really wanted Trump University to give people a valuable education.  ????

They got an education to last a lifetime, what sane person would pay money to go to Trump University.

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you referring to posters trying to keep a sense of perspective surrounding the classified documents - a President's authority to possess them vs a career politician and senator, whether under lock and key and security at MAL vs dumped in a garage rented by a degenerate junkie, length of time in possession etc etc? Doing so will allow a reasoned understanding of the situation.

 

Looks to me like even the extreme left realize this incredibly timed witch-hunt is political to stop Mr world peace and prosperity from running again in 2024. Would that be election interference or insurrection? Certainly fascistic in nature.

 

"MSNBC host Rachel Maddow suggested Thursday there could be a plea deal where former President Trump gets less punishment for agreeing to bow out of the 2024 race after he announced he was being indicted by the Department of Justice.

Maddow advocated for the idea as a potential "political solution to this criminal problem" while on MSNBC’s "The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell."

O’Donnell argued Trump’s legal defense team would have to be the side that pushes the quid pro quo, so the prosecution can avoid the accusation that the whole indictment is just a way to get Trump to stay out of the 2024 race. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rachel-maddow-suggests-doj-quid-pro-quo-with-trump-drop-charges-leaves-2024-race

 

Funny they are not even pretending we have democracy and a free and fair vote any more!

Instructions received!

52 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

If it was all about Trump, he'd be on one of his beautiful golf courses every day.

He doesn't need the money! 

He has not been convicted of anything, and won't be.

He doesn't need the money? Then why did he send out begmails 30 minutes after indictment. These were obviously cued to go before the indictment.

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They got an education to last a lifetime, what sane person would pay money to go to Trump University.

They read his guarantees of a decent job.

41 minutes ago, xylophone said:

You cannot seriously believe this..........or can you???? LOL.

It appears that he does believe this, the same as he believes that we all speak to our late departed loved ones!

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

Talking about delusional from the indictment:

"The classified documents TRUMP stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries; United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack."

 

"On two occasions in 2021, TRUMP showed classified documents to others"

 

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

No, this is just your opinion. Trump really wants to make the US better and many people want him to do exactly that.

 

Trump really wants to make the US better stay out of prison and many, apparently deluded  people, want him to do exactly that.

I am most certainly not one of them.

 

 

 

Former President Donald Trump's disrespect for the security of classified information really amounts to a disrespect for the men and women behind that classified information who put their lives on the line for the country, argued former Bill Clinton Secretary of Defense William Cohen on CNN Friday.

 

And as far as dealing with our men and women who serve us, he's in Arlington National Cemetery looking over the gravesites with John Kelly, General John Kelly, whose son is buried there and said, what was in it for all these people?" added Cohen. "What was in it was the fight for democracy, which is something he apparently doesn't really understand."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-disrespect-national-security/

53 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They got an education to last a lifetime, what sane person would pay money to go to Trump University.

Especially given that Trump destroyed the real estate business that he inherited from his father.

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

Trump first claimed that the FBI planted classified documents in his BR. 

Will you be posting a link to back that claim up ?

Trump never did claim that , he said that he hoped the FBI wouldn't do that , which is very different to Trump saying they planted documents .

   So, will you be retracting your allegation ?

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Will you be posting a link to back that claim up ?

Trump never did claim that , he said that he hoped the FBI wouldn't do that , which is very different to Trump saying they planted documents .

   So, will you be retracting your allegation ?

In a new post on his Truth Social network, former President Donald Trump appeared to undermine his suggestion that the FBI planted evidence during its Mar-a-Lago raid.

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-appears-undercuts-claim-fbi-planted-mar-a-lago-documents-2022-9

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Will you be posting a link to back that claim up ?

Trump never did claim that , he said that he hoped the FBI wouldn't do that , which is very different to Trump saying they planted documents .

   So, will you be retracting your allegation ?

Trump Launches Conspiracy Theory That FBI Was 'Planting' Evidence At Mar-a-Lago | HuffPost UK Politics (huffingtonpost.co.uk)

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Trump Launches Conspiracy Theory That FBI Was 'Planting' Evidence At Mar-a-Lago | HuffPost UK Politics (huffingtonpost.co.uk)

That doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting documents in the Mar le go , it says he hoped that they wouldn't do it 

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

That doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting documents in the Mar le go , it says he hoped that they wouldn't do it 

Right, like as if he'd said "I hope they don't try to hang Mike Pence". It was just a random comment with no ulterior motive or hidden meaning whatsoever.

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Will you be posting a link to back that claim up ?

Trump never did claim that , he said that he hoped the FBI wouldn't do that , which is very different to Trump saying they planted documents .

   So, will you be retracting your allegation ?

That's one of the way Trump uses  in order to make a statement when he knows he's lying. Other popular for relations are "people say" or "I've been told".

16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting documents in the Mar le go , it says he hoped that they wouldn't do it 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-evidence-b2142315.html

 

Former president Donald Trump has accused FBI agents of “planting” evidence during their search of his Mar-a-Lago residence, alleging that federal authorities would not let his legal team observe the activity.

“The FBI and others from the Federal Government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hoopefully not, ‘planting.’ Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out? Obama and clinton were never ‘raided,’ despite big disputes!” Mr Trump said on his Truth Social platform.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-repeats-unproven-claim-fbi-073229730.html

 

Former US president Donald Trump has reiterated his claim that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) planted the documents that were found at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida.

 

In an interview with Indian news television channel NDTV on Thursday, Mr Trump said: “That (the documents) they (the FBI) put there. It’s a set-up. It’s weaponisation. And it’s inappropriate to do. It’s a bad thing for our country.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

He doesn't need the money! 

You would think that being a multi-billionaire that 'didn't need money', he would now still have his own charitable Foundation like Gates, Buffet or Bezos.

 

Yet, what happened to the Trump Foundation.

 

It was a charity non-profit set up by Trump to ingratiate Trump, his family and friends.

 

What was notable was that he did give $7 to the Scouts, but it was to pay for his young son's registration fee. 

 

It was finally shut down in 2018 by the NY Attorney General

 

What the Collapse of the Trump Foundation Tells Us About Donald Trump | The New Yorker (archive.md)

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting documents in the Mar le go , it says he hoped that they wouldn't do it 

And the italian mafia really are worried about your little shop when they say "It would be a shame if anything were to happen to it". Vailed suggestive remarks, a way to state something without becoming legally liable for it.

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-evidence-b2142315.html

 

Former president Donald Trump has accused FBI agents of “planting” evidence during their search of his Mar-a-Lago residence, alleging that federal authorities would not let his legal team observe the activity.

“The FBI and others from the Federal Government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hoopefully not, ‘planting.’ Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out? Obama and clinton were never ‘raided,’ despite big disputes!” Mr Trump said on his Truth Social platform.

Once again, that doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting evidence/documents .

   The reported wrote that Trump said it , but Trump didn't actually make the claim that the FBI planted anything .

   Trump did say he hoped that they wouldn't plant anything.

Trump did not say that the FBI planted anything  

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Once again, that doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting evidence/documents .

   The reported wrote that Trump said it , but Trump didn't actually make the claim that the FBI planted anything .

   Trump did say he hoped that they wouldn't plant anything.

Trump did not say that the FBI planted anything  

He did say it.

 

 

Trump Returns to ‘FBI Planted Evidence’ Accusation in Wild Rant After DOJ Appealed Special Master Ruling

58 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

It appears that he does believe this, the same as he believes that we all speak to our late departed loved ones!

It absolutely astounds me that with all of the information about this probe and indictment that has been posted on this thread, as well as in the MSM, that there are some poor deluded people out there who believe that trump can do no wrong, is an honourable person and that he "wants to make the US better" – – I fear for the future of the US if there are too many of these people who have drunk the Kool-Aid and gone down the rabbit hole. 

 

Absolutely unbelievable......and the sad thing is that they believe what they post; or perhaps they do it just to antagonise the straight thinking intelligent folk amongst us?

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Once again, that doesn't say that Trump accused the FBI of planting evidence/documents .

   The reported wrote that Trump said it , but Trump didn't actually make the claim that the FBI planted anything .

   Trump did say he hoped that they wouldn't plant anything.

Trump did not say that the FBI planted anything  

You decidedly left out this section of my post to try and deflect what was written now didn't you.

 

Stop cherry picking parts of a post you wish to respond to

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-repeats-unproven-claim-fbi-073229730.html

 

Former US president Donald Trump has reiterated his claim that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) planted the documents that were found at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida.

 

In an interview with Indian news television channel NDTV on Thursday, Mr Trump said: “That (the documents) they (the FBI) put there. It’s a set-up. It’s weaponisation. And it’s inappropriate to do. It’s a bad thing for our country.