Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

[bignok]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Again, no sources or substantiation for any of the nonsense you're posting.

 

So they didnt break into his house and kill him?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, bignok said:

Armed men broke into his house, shot and killed him based on words.

 

This is what the Gestapo did in WW2.

Can you provide a link to that claim.

[Walker88]

28 minutes ago, bignok said:

So they didnt break into his house and kill him?

 

 

You're in Thailand? Go ahead and post something threatening to kill a major figure, like a PM or 'higher'. See how you are treated. The same would happen to you in the US.

 

The clown made repeated direct threats ('credible', in the parlance of LE) against Biden, VP Harris and SC Jack Smith. They went to question him. They identify themselves as FBI. He pulled a gun. The bureau doesn't mess with clowns like that. He's dead.

 

Here's his image on a supposedly better day than today.  Maybe he would have been better off going to the gym instead of threatening the President.

 

[Walker88]

The comments of magas here remind me of the reaction of the Vincent D'Onofrio character when Will Smith starts stepping on cockroaches near the end of Men in Black.

[Tug]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

To be fair, I think a lot on the extreme left would support summary executions for anyone wearing a MAGA hat.????

 

It reminds me of the lefty nurse in the UK who said anyone who voted Tory should be refused life saving treatment.

 

#bekind

 

I donno about summary execution but certainly a mental health exam to try to understand how anyone who claims to be a patriot or American for that manner could support someone who insults POWs explodes the deficit for no gain sucks up and admires dictators and war criminals and is a pathological liar.and after failing that has at a bare minimum their 2 amendment rights permanently revoked on account of their inability to separate truth from fiction.the idiot pointed a gun at the law what did he expect?I learned along time ago comply then sort it out later.just Darwin at work

[Jingthing]

About the Magadonian movement and violence. Notice the Magodonian identification with and defense of the domestic terrorist in Utah. 

 

"You will get violence": Leading democracy expert says Donald Trump is not running to win election | Salon.com
 

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"We are witnessing Trump telling America that if he doesn't get his way," they will suffer

 

Contrary to what many professional centrists and hope-peddlers in the American mainstream news media and political class would like to believe, the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol was not the climax of the Age of Trump. In reality, Jan. 6 was a proof of concept for how the Republican fascists will use political violence to obtain and keep power against and over the democratic will of the American people in an increasingly diverse society. In all, Jan. 6 was not the end of something but rather the next chapter in what journalist Jeff Sharlet has described as a "slow civil war" here in America.

 

 

Trump incites the violence.

 

Conway: Trump’s 'apocalyptic rhetoric' goads 'not very smart' people into 'extremely dangerous' behavior - Alternet.org

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Conservative attorney George Conway told MSNBC's Joy Reid on Wednesday's edition of The ReidOut that thrice-indicted former President Donald Trump is "encouraging the violence" and "empowers" extremist behavior.

The segment began with Reid playing a clip of multiple New Hampshire Trump supporters threatening civil war if Trump is convicted of fomenting a coup to overthrow the federal government after he lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden:

 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Jingthing

[Chomper Higgot]

I seem to recall some of those bleating about this guy being shot by agents executing a lawful warrant banging on in the past about a guy murdered in cold blood by police officers.

 

Something along the lines of ‘he was a danger to the officers/he should have followed the instructions given by the officers/he should not have resisted the officers performing their lawful duty’. 
 

 

[Sheryl]

A number of posts violating forum Community Standards have been removed along with replies quoting them.

 

Most were removed because they were flaming, bickering or baiting.

 

A few were removed for making what at this stage are completely unsubstantiated (and in some cases libellous) accusations.

[Chomper Higgot]

White right-winger gets shot dead by law enforcement officers.

 

 

A ‘man bites dog’ news story if ever I heard one.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[pomchop]

18 hours ago, riclag said:

Fever pitched moment in time!

Dont know much of the particulars of what set him off!

Perhaps all the news surrounding all the scandals !imop

To say this is indicative of all Make america great again supporters

is a far left conspiracy theory beyond imagination!

Everyone knows 

violence-is never the alternative!

A 1 in 71 million thought actor  that got caught up in the news events since the indictments by bidens / garlands doj imop

stay tuned much more to come I expect,

 

 

Only a true kool aid drinking trumper could find a way to try and blame this on the biden/garland  DOJ and a far left conspiracy and not even mention or recognize  that trump is the one who has fanned the flames of violence over and over, created legal problems and indictments by his own actions, and this idiot as described in the story was a full fledged trumper out on a mission...

 

.I cannot read this man's mind but it would certainly appear from the story that he was "inspired" by the MAGA anti biden anti garland movement that has been created and propogated by trump over and over and over....

 

and the "far left conspiracy" is that the one where republican after republican are the very witnesses that have testified under oath as to what they personally saw and heard trump do as relates to criminal activites by trump....so i gues those brilliant left wing dems somehow managed to get to all those republicans and convince them to tell lie after lie under oath naming the man that they worked with/for and had voted for providing more than enough probable cause that a grand jury indicted trump on criminal charges....wow that is some great work by the left wing and biden and garland to pull that off....

[Bkk Brian]

Bit more clarification on the events here, Trump's Truth Social had also informed the FBI about this loon Magadonian

 

Utah man killed by FBI pointed a gun at agents before fatal shooting

A Utah man fatally shot by the FBI on Wednesday was armed when FBI agents confronted him at his home, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News. Authorities said he pointed his weapon at agents and did not respond to their commands.

He also openly plotted online the assassination of Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, whose office is prosecuting former President Donald Trump.

Truth Social, the social media site Trump founded and uses regularly, also alerted the FBI in March about Robertson’s threats against Bragg on the site, a second senior law enforcement official said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-man-killed-fbi-pointed-gun-agents-fatal-shooting-rcna99326

[bendejo]

16 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Coincidentally, Trump quietly revoked guns laws for the mentally ill back in 2017 shortly after taking office.

 

Perhaps Trump was extremely perceptive and realised he would have a need for these people to support his future campaigns.

 

'In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns'.

 

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns when he rolled back Obama regulation (nbcnews.com)

And then there was this

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/

 

I also take some curiosity in the witness report of 1/6 that DT was not at all afraid if the crowd was armed.  From what I've seen of his 24/7 reality show over these past eight years I think he was being uncharacteristically brave.

 

[Sheryl]

A baiting post has been removed.

[BritManToo]

No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI.

[BritManToo]

18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And lead-up background from the AP:

 

"Clark said Robertson had a collection of perhaps 20 guns, though he noted that that wasn’t unusual for the area."

He can only use one at a time, so does the number he owns really matter?

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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

He can only use one at a time, so does the number he owns really matter?

And he pointed one of them at FBI agents? According to you pointing a gun equals

"No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI."

So pointing a gun at someone is now a form of dissent? It's protected free speech? 

[BritManToo]

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And he pointed one of them at FBI agents? According to you pointing a gun equals

"No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI."

So pointing a gun at someone is now a form of dissent? It's protected free speech? 

Shooting armed intruders in your home would certainly be OK IMHO.

Them shooting you would be murder.

Edited August 11, 2023 by BritManToo

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Just now, BritManToo said:

Shooting armed intruders in your home would certainly be OK IMHO.

So FBI agents with a warrant are now "armed intruders"? So, anytime law enforcement officers show up at someone's home with a warrant, it's OK to shoot them?

[Berkshire]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Shooting armed intruders in your home would certainly be OK IMHO.

Them shooting you would be murder.

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?  Which, of course, makes you a typical Trump supporter. 

[pomchop]

55 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI.

I do not know who did what but it is probably not a good idea to greet FBI agents with a gun after making a bunch of death threats online and they loudly announce FBI at your door which you refuse to open and they have to use a battering ram....with FBI likely knowing that you have a variety of weapons which indeed you did....that is not going to generally end well....and freedom of speech does not include making death threats against presidents of the USA.....

 

“Six rounds go off in pretty quick succession, and then the SWAT team you hear [him] yell ‘Shots fired! Shots fired! He has a gun!’ and then a whole bunch more shots,” the witness says they lost count of how many fired.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI.

He wasn't shot for dissent, he was shot for pointing a weapon at FBI agents and refusing orders to drop it. 

[BritManToo]

45 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?  Which, of course, makes you a typical Trump supporter. 

I'm a Marxist, wouldn't vote for Trump or Biden. I haven't voted since Arthur Skargill's Socialist Labour Party gave up.

Edited August 11, 2023 by BritManToo

[xylophone]

19 hours ago, BTB1977 said:

So much for free speech.  And having an opinion.  The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas 

Utter nonsense and you know it....get a life.

[PremiumLane]

21 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Exactly

 

How "the left" can think they are correct in this equation, I dunno.

I didn't know the FBI were now "the left" 

[Berkshire]

It turns out there are some adults involved in Trump's Truth Social.  It was them who reported Robertson to the FBI....

 

[Former President Donald Trump’s social media platform, Truth Social, was one of the entities that reported a MAGA-loving Utah man to the FBI for threats to kill, among others, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and President Joe Biden.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/truth-social-reported-trump-loving-man-killed-during-fbi-raid-report/ar-AA1f7rKQ?ocid=wispr&cvid=b85eb67034964d5b90564085ffd34eaf&ei=26

 

[billd766]

21 hours ago, bignok said:

They broke into his home against his will to stop his free speech. He was defending himself.

Were you there at the time as an eyewitness?

 

The FBI has the right to execute a legal warrant wherever he can be found.

 

If that person is armed and pointing the weapon at law enforcement officers, carrying out there lawful duty, they have the right to defend themselves, no matter what you want to believe.

 

According to the reports that I have read, the FBI were there to serve a warrant on him.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/utah-man-suspected-of-threatening-biden-shot-and-killed-as-fbi-served-warrant

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/fbi-utah-man-joe-biden/index.html

 

 

[bignok]

37 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Were you there at the time as an eyewitness?

 

The FBI has the right to execute a legal warrant wherever he can be found.

 

If that person is armed and pointing the weapon at law enforcement officers, carrying out there lawful duty, they have the right to defend themselves, no matter what you want to believe.

 

According to the reports that I have read, the FBI were there to serve a warrant on him.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/utah-man-suspected-of-threatening-biden-shot-and-killed-as-fbi-served-warrant

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/fbi-utah-man-joe-biden/index.html

 

 

Yes they do. Fascism.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Shooting armed intruders in your home would certainly be OK IMHO.

Them shooting you would be murder.

The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics.

 

There’s a reason law enforcement officers executing lawful, court warrant approved, entry and search always go in armed. 
 

And it’s not to murder anyone to deny their free speech.

 

Pointing a gun at anyone, is not free speech, pointing a gun at officers enacting a lawful entry and search is not free speech.

[PremiumLane]

17 minutes ago, bignok said:

Yes they do. Fascism.

You really don't understand what that word means

[ICU Kid]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm a Marxist, wouldn't vote for Trump or Biden. I haven't voted since Arthur Skargill's Socialist Labour Party gave up.

No offence but you seem pretty sensible - why would you want to iD as a marxist?

Is it just an academiic thing or serious?

 

I guess you're aware of the horseshoe theory - at least you're allowed to keep your 'stuff' under capitalism.  

I guess marxism would be fine if you work high up in the regime but otherwise can't see the benefit.

 

It's also NEVER worked in practice.  Sorry for asking but WTF?