Managing forum toxicity and negativity

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I think having a 'block' feature would help. Like Facebook -  if someone is rude or toxic, you should have the right to block them for ever. 

Is that different from ignoring?

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

If you are talking about Pattaya addicts, sadly most of the mods there were bell ends, power of the mod got the better of them

Sounds like the Lonely Planet Thorn Tree travel forum on which I used to post on the Thailand sub forum. Got sold, the new mods went full on PC and suspending anyone having a bit of fun. Most of the experienced posters left, forum became pathetic and finally got put out of it's misery post covid.

[HappyExpat57]

10 hours ago, bignok said:

Really? They say f this a lot. Totally allowed. Strange forum.

 

TA is the worst forum for moderation. A poster who has been there for 10 years can abuse people. Anyone new can't say anything.

 

I wouldn't know. I walked away and never looked back.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I didn't see any of that, but I did see a baiting post.

It's an old tactic- post something personal that however it is answered will make the responder look bad.

 

It's why I don't reply to such posts myself but point out that it's a baiting post.

Moved the goalposts, haven't we?

Ia every post that asks an awkward question a baiting post?

[Ralf001]

7 hours ago, mark131v said:

 

In many parts of the world fisting is very, very different from a knuckle sandwich I have have certainly never had a fisting how about you?

 

Giving is good... receiving not so good.

[save the frogs]

I haven't had time to read the thread OP nor the posts, except for one post that mentioned drivel.

 

Regarding "drivel", what is drivel?

Do you honestly think that all of Trump's tweets are NOT drivel?

So if the president of the US posts drivel, why do you expect the average person not to?

Also, it's much more dangerous when people cling to every word Trump says, as opposed to a clown on AN, where everyone knows it's drivel and the person is a nobody that no one listens to anyway. 

 

A bit of goofballing around is ok as most people are too serious anyway. 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I haven't had time to read the thread OP nor the posts, except for one post that mentioned drivel.

 

Regarding "drivel", what is drivel?

Do you honestly think that all of Trump's tweets are NOT drivel?

So if the president of the US posts drivel, why do you expect the average person not to?

Also, it's much more dangerous when people cling to every word Trump says, as opposed to a clown on AN, where everyone knows it's drivel and the person is a nobody that no one listens to anyway. 

 

A bit of goofballing around is ok as most people are too serious anyway. 

 

  Do stop going on about Trump , there are other people in the World apart from him 

[observer90210]

How can one claim to hold the holy truth on what is worthy or not to be discussed if in a civil and polite manner ?

 

One chap thinking he is the smartest in the hood, may appear as a rude and arrogant fool to another and the other way round.

 

Same for the topics. Some may find him or her boring or foolish but for others they could be divine lifesavers,

 

Same for differences on politics. Some may applause Trump and others Biden. In a democracy, that is fully their right - no rocket science. 

Are they are also going to get posts deleted, banned or warned just out of a political difference ? Of course not as ASEAN is open minded...hopefully :-)

 

How can one consider baning people plainly on the topics they post or their ideas (provided within the law of course)  ?

 

I far more enjoy  reading Bob Smith then somebody else thinking he is giving lecture  in geopolitics in a Harvard Amphitheater ? Some boring comments in my view that often could be rubbish depsite the 89'448 posts but to others it could be the post of the day.

 

Unless one wants this place to be empty, numbers to drop and loose market value, filled just with the old timers arguing on the number of posts they have,  that give them a sense of "this or that" and ranting against any newcommer or anybody with interesting stuff to post.....well IMHO, no way for me and probably for many others.

 

I once got suspended years ago,  just because "God" on duty-forum patrol,  considered that I had to many posts....no other reason.

 

I would only delete posts with  arrogant, rude or uncouth comments, from some thinking they run the show, or either belive themselves to  be the grammar police or feel like columist critics towards other people's posts/topics.

 

Same for the racist extremists obviously who have no place in a public forum.

 

With full respect to moderating any forum, deleting a post plainly on the  "off topic" excuse, or the "nonsense comment excuse"  has no sense and liveability in a forum and posters will just stop comming.

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

The quickest way on to my ignore list is to tell me to "just Google it" when I ask for a member to back up their questionable statement.

[Bkk Brian]

This whole thing about putting people on ignore, encouraging others to do it or threatening to put people on ignore is all snowflake stuff. There are no kids here, this is an adult forum, if you don't like the posts from a member then just ignore them for that particular topic. Personally I find those using the ignore in world news topics try to have it as a free pass so they don't get challenged to any misinformation they spew. That's ok, they can still be responded to whether they have you on ignore or not.

 

What I've also found is that those who can be utterly disruptive for whatever reason in one topic, can add lots of value to the forum in other topics. If you have them on ignore you miss their best stuff.

[Prubangboy]

The frequency of these discussions means that people value this venue. I do too.

 

To talk to someone about their life here or get practical advice is great, partic for free. I enjoy doing the same. 

 

If someone wants to fight all of the time, they're some version of not right in the head and I give 'em a miss. I just parma-nixed someone today. If I had the technical acumen to block him.....I still wouldn't. It's all part of the unique mix.

 

If people want to post about their elbow, I have no problem with that.

 

If I have a passable elbow joke to toss out, I will.

 

If not, I'll sticker on a few emoji's supporting other elbow-mockers and then go back to Slate. 

 

I can't think of a fourth rule for Internet behavior. I mean, duh.

 

[save the frogs]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Do stop going on about Trump , there are other people in the World apart from him 

 

Point is you're being unwittingly trolled more than you realize, by unsuspecting sources.

The troll you're aware of is the least harmful. 

[Wobblybob]

8 hours ago, farmerjo said:

Or you running to the defence of cats and dogs.

I like cats (for the purpose of this post anyway) and dogs, I find elephants annoying especially when they stand on your toes and kangaroos are too jumpy for my liking. 😃

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Point is you're being unwittingly trolled more than you realize, by unsuspecting sources.

The troll you're aware of is the least harmful. 

 Oh OK, right.

So who am I being trolled by ?

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

This whole thing about putting people on ignore, encouraging others to do it or threatening to put people on ignore is all snowflake stuff. There are no kids here, this is an adult forum, if you don't like the posts from a member then just ignore them for that particular topic. Personally I find those using the ignore in world news topics try to have it as a free pass so they don't get challenged to any misinformation they spew. That's ok, they can still be responded to whether they have you on ignore or not.

 

What I've also found is that those who can be utterly disruptive for whatever reason in one topic, can add lots of value to the forum in other topics. If you have them on ignore you miss their best stuff.

 

I only have one dotard on my ignore list. You can still view their replies with a simple click. I occasionally do so with that member and am consistently reminded why dotard is still dotarding.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

I only have one dotard on my ignore list. You can still view their replies with a simple click. I occasionally do so with that member and am consistently reminded why dotard is still dotarding.

 

   Was you Terry over on the other place ?

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

I only have one dotard on my ignore list. You can still view their replies with a simple click. I occasionally do so with that member and am consistently reminded why dotard is still dotarding.

Well in this case you're probably right

[save the frogs]

52 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Oh OK, right.

So who am I being trolled by ?

I gave Trump as an example.

Half his tweets are probably nonsense, although I don't read them.

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by save the frogs

[HappyExpat57]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Was you Terry over on the other place ?

 

Don't ask don't tell.   

[newnative]

     I personally feel less is more in the way of moderation/changes.  Some of the topics posted by members may be considered frivolous by some other members but, if it seems like a frivolous topic, just ignore it.  I've found some of them to be actually interesting and I've posted my thoughts on some of them.  I, myself, don't mind at all if sometimes a thread meanders off-topic--sometimes those threads can be some of the most interesting and fun ones.  I frown a bit when I read the message, 'Some off-topic posts have been removed.'   What did I miss?  If someone bothers to take the time to post, I think the posts should remain, unless they are in violation of Forum rules.  Also, there is sometimes a fine line between what might be considered bickering by some and lively debate by others.   When in doubt, consider the posts to be lively debate and keep them.

    I feel very fortunate that we have such a thing as AN here.  It keeps me up-to-date on Thailand and other news, and, especially, on things that can impact my life living here.  I heard about the proposed tax changes here, before anywhere else, for example.  It was a fount of helpful information when I was first learning how to file my 90-day reports on-line--starting with telling me there was now such a thing I could use to avoid treks to Immigration.  Sheryl, of course, is always so patient, helpful, and informed on health issues--so lucky to have her.  And, she's just one example.  There are others who also step in and help with other issues and topics.  I wouldn't change too much. 

[Nick Carter icp]

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Trump, Biden, The Pope, CNN, Stephen Hawking.

 

Warren Buffett. Invest in stocks and you'll be a billionaire like me. That's trolling. 

 

can't think of anyone else at the moment.

Oh, I forgot. Yngwie Malmsteen. 

 

 

   I don't listen to or read anything from the people above

[QuantumQuandry]

2 hours ago, observer90210 said:

I far more enjoy  reading Bob Smith then somebody else thinking he is giving lecture  in geopolitics in a Harvard Amphitheater ?

 

I don't.  But I think that's beside the point.  Neither one is about Asia/Thailand, usually, which is what I would prefer to read about.

Edited November 11, 2023 by QuantumQuandry

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is that different from ignoring?

Yes, it's like Facebook. They can't see or comment on any of your posts. 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Yes, it's like Facebook. They can't see or comment on any of your posts. 

Join Facebook....sorted.🥱

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Yes, it's like Facebook. They can't see or comment on any of your posts. 

Yes they've rightly got lots of measures at facebook for the protection of children, young people, those at risk and minorities. Not sure its needed on a Thai expat forum though............

[bignok]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The quickest way on to my ignore list is to tell me to "just Google it" when I ask for a member to back up their questionable statement.

Biased against Yahoo and Bing

[bignok]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

This whole thing about putting people on ignore, encouraging others to do it or threatening to put people on ignore is all snowflake stuff. There are no kids here, this is an adult forum, if you don't like the posts from a member then just ignore them for that particular topic. Personally I find those using the ignore in world news topics try to have it as a free pass so they don't get challenged to any misinformation they spew. That's ok, they can still be responded to whether they have you on ignore or not.

 

What I've also found is that those who can be utterly disruptive for whatever reason in one topic, can add lots of value to the forum in other topics. If you have them on ignore you miss their best stuff.

Ignoring blocks out gibberish from stalkers. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Ignoring blocks out gibberish from stalkers. 

I don't have stalkers and if I did I would report them to mods to sort

[Neeranam]

Just now, bignok said:

Ignoring blocks out gibberish from stalkers. 

One of my ignored stalkers, who knows it yet still replies to many of my posts. Why a block is better.  

[Nick Carter icp]

35 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I gave Trump as an example.

Half his tweets are probably nonsense, although I don't read them.

 

 

   I don't read his tweets either .

So you are claiming that Donald Trump is trolling me, even though neither of us read his tweets ?