1 minute ago, proton said:

 

They have been attacking humans long before as well, does not make them fur babies does it. 

You, and you only, and the one who used the phrase 'fur babies.'

I used 'domesticated.'

Maybe one day your home or family are under threat and the police K9 units are necessary to subdue the criminal.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I would have thought that was obvious.

 

There are builders there working with power tools. What type of irresponsible owner lets a dog walk around a building site in such circumstances?

 

The cage is elevated a few inches from the floor with perforated flooring, allowing airflow underneath him and keeping him nice and cool and away from dirt, ants and other irritants.

 

He hasn't got a heavy duty collar. It's called a harness and prevents skin issues around the neck in hot/humid climates.

 

Maybe best you avoid dogs altogether with such a lack of knowledge/responsibility. 

You are a responsible Pit Bull owner, unfortunately, they can be deadly in the wrong hands. They were originally bred for dog fighting, so when they bite, they bite hard and cause more severe injuries than your average pet dog.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Another clueless backyard breeder. 

 

Great dogs. Mine is currently watching (supervising) the builders doing our extension.

 

Such a good boy. Handsome too  

 

He's so good, thats why you have him in a cage right?

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

Just goes to show you just never know when this outlawed breed will turn on you .....

 

Pit Bull Breeder Killed By His Dogs In His Backyard, Police Say

Complex

Tue, February 20, 2024

source: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pit-bull-breeder-killed-dogs-204746590.html 

 

 

A Los Angeles-based Pit Bull breeder met a violent end when he was killed by his dogs in his backyard.

Per KTLA, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department responded to a call from a friend of the deceased who discovered his body at around 7 a.m. local time on Friday, February 16. According to investigators, the attack on the man is suspected to have happened the previous evening. "He was feeding the dogs at which point maybe there was an altercation between some of the dogs and [they] ultimately attacked and mauled the victim," said the LASD Homicide Bureau's Michael Gomez.

The 35-year-old, who has not been identified, was said to live alone and died in one of the kennels on his property after bleeding out. Authorities confirmed there were five adult dogs in the backyard alongside eight puppies, all of whom were agitated as responding officers, firefighters, and the L.A. County Animal Care & Control department attempted to recover each of the dogs individually.

 

Instant karma

24 minutes ago, 2long said:

Dogs have been domesticated long before you were on this planet, and will long after.

Dogs in general yes but pit bulls were breed specifically for 1 reason and that guy found out just what that was. You can't breed in specific characteristics for a hundred or more years in a dog or any animal and then expect them to act differently for you. 

20 minutes ago, BE88 said:

You keep him in a cage and you says he's very good, I wouldn't want to be in your place.

 

I could leave him in the house while they are working, but he prefers to sit watching the builders and the other stuff going on around the farm. It's a hub of activity at the moment, no place for a dog of any kind to be roaming around.

 

A comfortable, clean cage underneath the rose apple trees is just the ticket. If it gets too hot he can go in the air con.

 

 

We have an American Pitbull. Never a problem in 9 years. Best family dog I've ever owned. 

 

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Dogs in general yes but pit bulls were breed specifically for 1 reason and that guy found out just what that was. You can't breed in specific characteristics for a hundred or more years in a dog or any animal and then expect them to act differently for you. 

 

Wrong. They were bred to fight other dogs, not humans. 

 

In fact, the ability for them to live alongside their owners and their family in between fights was very important. As was the ability to be able to separate them from other dogs without being bitten yourself. Of course, if you mistreat them or don't socialize them, or encourage aggression towards people they can bite humans just like any other dog.

First person ever to receive a face transplant was a French woman who was mauled by her own pet Labrador

 

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

First person ever to receive a face transplant was a French woman who was mauled by her own pet Labrador

And?

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I could leave him in the house while they are working, but he prefers to sit watching the builders and the other stuff going on around the farm. It's a hub of activity at the moment, no place for a dog of any kind to be roaming around.

 

A comfortable, clean cage underneath the rose apple trees is just the ticket. If it gets too hot he can go in the air con.

 

 

Yeah yeah yeah. You have him in a cage and that says a lot. Its not like you just threw that cage up when you had worker a  around. 

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

And?

One of the last dogs one would judge as doing that.

23 minutes ago, Dan O said:

He's so good, thats why you have him in a cage right?

Try reading the thread, its been answered umpteen times already. If you cant grasp it then maybe you have nothing of value to add.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Wrong. They were bred to fight other dogs, not humans. 

 

In fact, the ability for them to live alongside their owners and their family in between fights was very important. As was the ability to be able to separate them from other dogs without being bitten yourself. Of course, if you mistreat them or don't socialize them, or encourage aggression towards people they can bite humans just like any other dog.

You cant breed an animal to distinguish like that.  If you think you can your kidding yourself and like many others have found out the hard way they are a very dangerous breed. They were breed to be overly aggressive and fight, and once provoked they were breed with traits not to stop, end of story. Make as many excuses as you need, it won't change that fact. 

2 minutes ago, sungod said:

Try reading the thread, its been answered umpteen times already. If you cant grasp it then maybe you have nothing of value to add.

Nor do you so you can send yourself away. Its an open forum, so don't like what people say move on, your not required to read or respond. 

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You cant breed an animal to distinguish like that.  If you think you can your kidding yourself and like many others have found out the hard way they are a very dangerous breed. They were breed to be overly aggressive and fight, and once provoked they were breed with traits not to stop, end of story. Make as many excuses as you need, it won't change that fact. 

 

Of course you can distinguish.

 

Some dogs are bred to herd sheep. Some dogs are guard dogs, some retrieve game, some protect property or humans.

 

Pitbulls were bred to fight dogs, but since that is mostly illegal now they are kept as pets and they are very loyal, fun loving animals. As I said, they were specifically bred to be human friendly as they lived with the dog fighters family and had to be handled during fights. Human aggression was considered a negative trait. There was no benefit to human aggression for a dog fighter, in fact quite the opposite. It would be like a Labrador that ate the pheasant instead of bringing it back to the owner. No good. 

 

Unfortunately they can fall into the wrong hands. If they are mistreated over long periods of time they can bite people same as any other dog can. But they are inherently people friendly. 

13 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Nor do you so you can send yourself away. Its an open forum, so don't like what people say move on, your not required to read or respond. 

 

OK, at least try to be original though and keep up to speed, the question had been asked many times and answered, or were you trying an attempt to look clever?

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Too many sharp objects, power tools etc. lying around. Every responsible owner knows that, I'd have thought it was obvious. Not good to have him trying to play with them while they are drilling, cutting etc. 

 

Plus he keeps falling asleep in the holes they are digging before they can finish them. 

 

 

 

How about they finish him?

That guy just got what he deserved..

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Of course you can distinguish.

 

Some dogs are bred to herd sheep. Some dogs are guard dogs, some retrieve game, some protect property or humans.

 

Pitbulls were bred to fight dogs, but since that is mostly illegal now they are kept as pets and they are very loyal, fun loving animals. As I said, they were specifically bred to be human friendly as they lived with the dog fighters family and had to be handled during fights. Human aggression was considered a negative trait. There was no benefit to human aggression for a dog fighter, in fact quite the opposite. It would be like a Labrador that ate the pheasant instead of bringing it back to the owner. No good. 

 

Unfortunately they can fall into the wrong hands. If they are mistreated over long periods of time they can bite people same as any other dog can. But they are inherently people friendly. 

Yep, you theorise a perverse attraction for bloodthirsty killer dogs..

15 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Yeah yeah yeah. You have him in a cage and that says a lot. Its not like you just threw that cage up when you had worker a  around. 

 

You appear to be hard of understanding.  

 

It has a perforated floor raised a few inches above ground level that keeps him cool and clean and away from ants/bugs. The door is normally left open so he is free to roam our 2500 sq. metre garden but he often chooses to sit in their anyway as it's the most comfortable spot.

 

 

Then, when people (gardeners, builders etc) come to work for us we close the door so that he doesn't get in their way or injure himself on power tools, weed whackers, chainsaws etc. that are often left lying around. Quite a sensible approach if you stop to think about it. 

 

Would you be happier if I said I let him roam the village all day and night like all the other soi dogs to prove how friendly he is? 

7 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

How about they finish him?

 

You mean like on Mortal Kombat? 

 

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Of course you can distinguish.

 

Some dogs are bred to herd sheep. Some dogs are guard dogs, some retrieve game, some protect property or humans.

 

Pitbulls were bred to fight dogs, but since that is mostly illegal now they are kept as pets and they are very loyal, fun loving animals. As I said, they were specifically bred to be human friendly as they lived with the dog fighters family and had to be handled during fights. Human aggression was considered a negative trait. There was no benefit to human aggression for a dog fighter, in fact quite the opposite. It would be like a Labrador that ate the pheasant instead of bringing it back to the owner. No good. 

 

Unfortunately they can fall into the wrong hands. If they are mistreated over long periods of time they can bite people same as any other dog can. But they are inherently people friendly. 

Your not comparing similar breeding. Sheep dogs aren't bred for violence. When you breed for violence and aggression thats what you get. they can not distinguish once triggered and you fooling yourself if you think they can. You even said it yourself they are bred for fighting. 

12 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

OK, at least try to be original though and keep up to speed, the question had been asked many times and answered, or were you trying an attempt to look clever?

Nope just replying to others' comments. but you seem to feel your clever or smart or control the forum flow of comments so again, move on if you dont like what people say. You have a good day now

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You appear to be hard of understanding.  

 

It has a perforated floor raised a few inches above ground level that keeps him cool and clean and away from ants/bugs. The door is normally left open so he is free to roam our 2500 sq. metre garden but he often chooses to sit in their anyway as it's the most comfortable spot.

 

 

Then, when people (gardeners, builders etc) come to work for us we close the door so that he doesn't get in their way or injure himself on power tools, weed whackers, chainsaws etc. that are often left lying around. Quite a sensible approach if you stop to think about it. 

 

Would you be happier if I said I let him roam the village all day and night like all the other soi dogs to prove how friendly he is? 

Your just trying to deflect now. This conversation is going nowhere so have a good day. 

5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Your not comparing similar breeding. Sheep dogs aren't bred for violence. When you breed for violence and aggression thats what you get. they can not distinguish once triggered and you fooling yourself if you think they can. You even said it yourself they are bred for fighting. 

 

You are confusing dog aggression with human aggression.

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Your just trying to deflect now. This conversation is going nowhere so have a good day. 

 

Yes you argument has been shown to be illogical and flawed. 

 

Best get your coat .

Nice Doggy.

 

Karma but ban this breed - no need for them

They are great actors as well. starring in kids series The Little Rascals, as well as blockbusters like Once upon a time in hollywood and John Wick alongside the likes of Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves.

 

Of course that was before tabloids started demonizing them.