Two New Zealand Men Arrested in Phuket for Alleged Brutal Assault on Traffic Cop

[Mywayboy]

10 years Bangkok Hilton ,then if they ever survive in there deport them never too return. 

Lived in Thailand for 7 years treat BIB with respect you get respect in return not hard too work out.

[BerndD]

2 hours ago, milesinnz said:

Please keep them in prison in Thailand.. we don't want this sort of sick trash back in New Zealand...

Keep your trash at home, TH doesn't need any more...

[Rampant Rabbit]

27 minutes ago, drgoon said:

Get off your high horse you sheep shagging roo rooter. It's not like you wombat whackers are pure god fairing law abiding 555

Christ on a  bike........Its didgeredoos at dawn

[ChipButty]

This gives the Russians a rest for a couple days, 

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 minute ago, Mywayboy said:

10 years Bangkok Hilton ,then if they ever survive in there deport them never too return. 

Lived in Thailand for 7 years treat BIB with respect you get respect in return not hard too work out.

Thats  funny, when I reported a  crime with a machete they did  nothing, is that what you call respect?

[borderhopper2005]

5 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

 

I bet they'd never do that back home. Evading police is bad enough but to take the officers weapon?

 

They would never do that in the US of A either LOL. They are most likely to be sent home in body bags instead of being taken into police custody alive. Assault on the cop make enough excuse to get shot on the spot.

[Ricardo99]

3 hours ago, Emeraldisle said:

Perhaps they were reacting to Thai police extorting Farangs. ??????

And threatening them with a gun. The fact they disarming, and cleared the weapn before discarding it suggests some training. That's not a bunch of NZ street thugs that suggests ex or current military...what the NZ coverage for unbiase info on this incident.

Two Kiwis accused of attacking Thai officer, snatching his gun https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350216019/two-new-zealand-men-arrested-attacking-traffic-officer-thailand

 

[zakalwe]

Those two clowns claimed self defense against a police officer. Has that successfully worked in any country after putting a police officer in a headlock and taking away his gun? It is resisting arrest in all cases, in all countries.

[Walker88]

No matter what the "true story" is, it's probably a good idea not to be the next Caucasian foreign male to be pulled over by Thai police. I suspect the blood is running hot for a while among some of the boys in brown.

[ryandb]

4 minutes ago, borderhopper2005 said:

They would never do that in the US of A either LOL. They are most likely to be sent home in body bags instead of being taken into police custody alive. Assault on the cop make enough excuse to get shot on the spot.

Just having a dog is enough for a US pig to start firing

[zakalwe]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

No matter what the "true story" is, it's probably a good idea not to be the next Caucasian foreign male to be pulled over by Thai police. I suspect the blood is running hot for a while among some of the boys in brown.

The "true story" is the one with the best video.

Yeah, I think Thai police is a bit embarrassed right now.

[gravity101]

3 hours ago, Emeraldisle said:

Perhaps they were reacting to Thai police extorting Farangs. ??????

Well it was Chalong. Its a supermarket checkout at that roundabout for fines, deserved or not. Only foreigners though, Thais sail straight through always.

[BerndD]

If a country absolutely wants to have 40,000,000 or more tourists per year and make money from them, you also have to accept that there are more than just a few idiots and criminals here.

[Rampant Rabbit]

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

No matter what the "true story" is, it's probably a good idea not to be the next Caucasian foreign male to be pulled over by Thai police. I suspect the blood is running hot for a while among some of the boys in brown.

Struth , we  have one come to our  land once a  week, Id  better lock the gate quickly and leave the 1000 (NO RECEIPT)  in the mailbox  this  month and hide under the sofa.

[spidermike007]

17 minutes ago, ryandb said:

 

 

Whether its smart or not, it depends on the actions of the cop whether it is justified, are you saying cops get to do whatever they want and you just have to take it?

No, I'm definitely not saying that, but it has to be a pretty extreme situation to physically assault a policeman and attempt to grab his weapon. I would say in the vast majority of these cases that the perpetrator was either insane, unhinged, very very high, or feeling overly entitled. 

[Nemises]

“Thai policeman jokingly reminds a couple of NZers about the All Blacks Rugby World Cup loss to South Africa by one point last October…”

[tandor]

1 hour ago, milesinnz said:

mmm.... you think disarming Police in a Western country is a good idea and acceptable - or only as a foreigner in a SE Asia country ? ... you think this would lead to a good outcome in say the USA ??

this is here, not there..most Thai police have a short fuse, don't follow procedures, become instantly aggressive and become unhinged at the drop of a hat. I didn't see the two men punching or slapping, only pushing him away restraining him whilst the other made the weapon safe. I think they feared for their lives and acted accordingly..all over a relatively minor traffic breach it seems. I wasn't there and can only form my own opinion from the video.

[ryandb]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

No, I'm definitely not saying that, but it has to be a pretty extreme situation to physically assault a policeman and attempt to grab his weapon. I would say in the vast majority of these cases that the perpetrator was either insane, unhinged, very very high, or feeling overly entitled. 

 

I would agree it is usually people under the influence, but judging from the video it looks more like they restrained the cop, they aren't beating him up here, if you are fearful the cop might pull the trigger then do what you need to do. Only profession more corrupt than cops are the politicians they serve.

[Old Croc]

The full interaction apparently was not filmed, and the complete story may never be known, but on the surface, we have tourists running from a traffic stop, fighting with a police officer and disarming him.  If that's all that gets to court, they're in deep <deleted>.

 

Many of us who have lived there are very aware of the notorious reputation of the Chalong Police. They have been running revenue raising traffic blocks at the circle for a long time. (Their station is adjacent) I won't mention any other dealings they have been rumored to be a part of. 

 

Interestingly, another Kiwi with connections to the Chalong Police was in the news a few years back, Apparently, he wasn't good at sharing.

Former Phuket Tourist Police Volunteer Garry Halpin Sentenced To 9 Years For Drug Dealing - CTN NEWS (chiangraitimes.com)

 

 

[spidermike007]

Just now, ryandb said:

 

I would agree it is usually people under the influence, but judging from the video it looks more like they restrained the cop, they aren't beating him up here, if you are fearful the cop might pull the trigger then do what you need to do. Only profession more corrupt than cops are the politicians they serve.

Well I can't argue with that, especially in Thailand. I think there are many nations where the police are corrupt, but in Thailand the RTP has redefined the nature of corruption, it appears to be a pyramid scheme that was founded upon the very premise that the government will pay a substandard wage, but the policeman has a franchise and he can be as creative as he can possibly be with that franchise, to earn as much money as he wants to earn, without fear of prosecution. The only exception seems to be with an instance where it gets a lot of media attention. 

 

Then they need to take action to save face. But even then you have to wonder how many police actually get locked up and serve a significant amount of prison time, my guess is very few. 

[frankie machine]

I'm guessing they were not treated well, once they were actually in custody. 

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, sikishrory said:

The kiwi is clearly saying they were attacked and are shown trying to disarm the cop and make the gun safe for fear of their life.

 

In the video it does actually look like they were trying to make an effort to restrain and get the gun instead of simply beating the cop. I find it hard to believe a Thai cop would pull a gun on tourists but maybe this guy was drunk or insane. Unless there's video evidence we may never know.

[ChipButty]

7 minutes ago, gravity101 said:

Well it was Chalong. Its a supermarket checkout at that roundabout for fines, deserved or not. Only foreigners though, Thais sail straight through always.

Notorious, the other week they took the last 200 baht off a Burmese couple that we know, 

[spidermike007]

Many years ago, my sister in law, was involved with a rather dodgy Brit, while living on Samui. When she finally ditched him, he was livid, and just could not handle it. He ended up coming one night, at 3:30am, and burning down her bungalow, which was made of wood and thatch. It went up like a bomb. Fortunately, neither she, nor her roommate were there at the time, or they would have either died, or ended up with major 3rd degree burns all over their bodies, which I believe was his intention. In most countries, this would be treated as attempted murder, correct? The police were able to find a video of him racing away from the scene, at around 3:35am, as there was a CCTV camera in front of the police station, only a few hundred meters away from her bungalow. They took him in, and told him he would have to leave Thailand, and could never return. Not sure what exchanged hands, for him to not have been arrested. He was also told he would have to pay my sister in law 120,000 baht for the destruction of her gold, cash, and possessions. Same for her friend. He did pay. We know that for a fact, as we were friendly with a couple of his friends. When she went to the police station to collect, she was told that he never paid, and he was already back in Thailand. But, that they had advocated for her, and made sure he could never come back to Thailand! When she pushed, and told them that she knew for a fact that he had paid them, she was told that her life was now in danger, and that she needed to back down, and go away, or her safety could not be guaranteed.

 

The real problem is, you cannot report these guys. Not to the higher ups, not to the provincial authorities, and certainly not to the army. They are all corrupt beyond imagination. And the level of corruption simply escalates, the further up the food chain you go. They are not expected to be honest, and they are not expected to engage in law enforcement, traffic or public safety, on any level. It is an irrevocably broken and dysfunctional system. Anything hyperbole to the contrary, is just a smoke screen, intended to deceive the naive amongst us. 

 

[IndomitableSpirit]

The whole thing would still go down with them not following rules. The Thais commenting in YT news vids aren't mincing their words and painting "farangs" in one brush as evil in the society. It's already a big rule to avoid fighting with the locals, let alone did that to a police officer. It's like picking up a hammer and hitting yourself with it. 

[PremiumLane]

I see the usual crackpot boomers have these two hung, drawn, quartered and deported already 

[rexpotter]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

These Muay Thai schools seem to be attracting the wrong elements,bringing problems to that area !

Will they be taking responsibility for these guys actions ,

 

Doing a rear choke hold on a police officer without any fear of repercussions 

Yes...totally....most UFC Fighters, Muay Thai etc, are extremely angry violent people who simply love to fight. Listen to interviews with many that are successful. Like Fedor, his mother said that when he was a kid he loved to fight. Maybe time to review this Muay Thai thing and all the dumb 'Visas' that go along with it.

[BritManToo]

32 minutes ago, ezzra said:

 

Either way, those guys will not see day light again for a long time, right or wrong, you don't attack a Thai police

person and worse of all, take his gun....Here's the link to the NZ Herald article...

Unless you're driving a car and have a lot of money, in which case you can kill Thai policemen.

[Bday Prang]

31 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said:

You want western style law enforcement, well that's what you will get.

Well that will please the many on here who yearn for Thailand to become a clone of the miserable countries they originate from.  

[Cabradelmar]

28 minutes ago, Toby1947 said:

According to initial reports on NZ news the two claim the Police officer attempted to attack them and they acted in Self Defence.

Flee a police stop and when they catch up to you expect to be confronted aggressively. How on earth that gets to a self defense argument is just utter nonsense. Nope these 2 foreigners need to be punished severely. What's great about the Thai legal system is that bull<deleted> arguments won't be entertained. The NZs are in the system now and it will be a painful journey.