Social Media Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 Amidst the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, a tragic incident has cast a somber shadow on humanitarian efforts. World Central Kitchen, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing meals to disaster-stricken regions, has faced a devastating blow as several of its aid workers were killed in an Israeli military strike in Gaza. The aid workers, including foreign nationals from various countries, were on a mission to deliver much-needed food aid to the starving civilians in Gaza. Tragically, their convoy, clearly marked with the charity's logo, was targeted despite coordination with the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and operating in a designated safe zone. The loss of these dedicated individuals has sent shockwaves through the humanitarian community. World Central Kitchen CEO Erin Gore expressed profound sorrow, emphasizing the commitment of the fallen aid workers to alleviate suffering and spread compassion. The incident has raised questions about the safety of humanitarian workers in conflict zones and the need for accountability for such tragic events. It also underscores the precarious situation in Gaza, where millions of people are grappling with food insecurity amid widespread destruction and restricted access to aid. In response to the attack, calls for a thorough investigation and accountability have been made by various parties, including World Central Kitchen founder José Andrés. He urged the Israeli government to halt indiscriminate killings and ensure the protection of aid workers delivering vital assistance to vulnerable populations. The loss of these dedicated individuals serves as a stark reminder of the risks faced by humanitarian workers in conflict zones and the urgent need for measures to safeguard their lives and facilitate their crucial work. As the international community mourns the tragic loss, efforts to address the root causes of conflicts and alleviate human suffering must be redoubled. 02.04.24 Source
Popular Post Neeranam Posted April 2, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Social Media said: indiscriminate killings The world has had enough, so have I. Does anyone here think these killings don't happen? 2 1 2 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 2, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 2, 2024 Tragic mistake. 3 British killed among the 7 in total. Kirby: No evidence Israel has broken international law Kirby is asked if firing a missile at people delivering food and killing them is a violation of international humanitarian law. “The Israelis have already admitted that this was a mistake that they made," Kirby says, reiterating that an investigation is being carried out into what happened. “Let’s not get ahead of that.” He says the question presumes that the Israeli strike against aid workers was deliberate and that they knew what they were hitting, to which he adds, “there’s no evidence of that". 1 3 2 1
Popular Post bannork Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Endless butchery by the Israelis. 3 1 4 3
Popular Post Jeff the Chef Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 World Central Kitchen is devastated to confirm seven members of our team have been killed in an IDF strike in Gaza. The WCK team was traveling in a deconflicted zone in two armored cars branded with the WCK logo and a soft skin vehicle. Despite coordinating movements with the IDF, the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse, where the team had unloaded more than 100 tons of humanitarian food aid brought to Gaza on the maritime route. “I am heartbroken and appalled that we—World Central Kitchen and the world—lost beautiful lives today because of a targeted attack by the IDF. The love they had for feeding people, the determination they embodied to show that humanity rises above all, and the impact they made in countless lives will forever be remembered and cherished,” said Erin. https://wck.org/news/gaza-team-update 5
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Tragic mistake. 3 British killed among the 7 in total. Kirby: No evidence Israel has broken international law Kirby is asked if firing a missile at people delivering food and killing them is a violation of international humanitarian law. “The Israelis have already admitted that this was a mistake that they made," Kirby says, reiterating that an investigation is being carried out into what happened. “Let’s not get ahead of that.” He says the question presumes that the Israeli strike against aid workers was deliberate and that they knew what they were hitting, to which he adds, “there’s no evidence of that". Kirby is IMO biased on israel's side, and I don't believe much he says. Apparently Kirby thinks the IDF is so incompetent that it's forces don't know what they are shooting at or bombing. Perhaps they are completely incompetent which would explain a lot of their "mistakes" over the past 6 months. 4 1 3
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Neeranam said: The world has had enough, so have I. Does anyone here think these killings don't happen? I presume you meant "Does anyone here think these killings don't just happen? Of course they don't. We are constantly told how fantastic the IDF is, so they must only be attacking valid targets. Only incompetents attack people that they don't know are approved targets, and the IDF isn't incompetent, or is it? If one assumes as I do that the israelis want to make life harder for Gazans, one way to do so is to make it harder for aid organisations to function, and how better to do so that attack and kill aid workers in a clearly marked vehicle in a so called "safe area". They even told the israelis where they would be, so it would be just a matter of telling the front line forces where to attack. 3 1 1 2
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 15 hours ago, Social Media said: Tragically, their convoy, clearly marked with the charity's logo, was targeted despite coordination with the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and operating in a designated safe zone. It's pretty clear to me that either the IDF are incompetent and don't know what they were destroying, or they knew exactly what they were destroying. If it was a missile, that must have been deliberately targeted. Pilots don't shoot missiles that cost a great deal of money at anyone they see, but need to identify the target. It's not like they were in a rush, as no one is shooting back, so they had plenty of time to verify it was legitimate target. Easily proven by reading the communications log, or listening to the pilot's conversation. 3 4
Bkk Brian Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Kirby is IMO biased on israel's side, and I don't believe much he says. Apparently Kirby thinks the IDF is so incompetent that it's forces don't know what they are shooting at or bombing. Perhaps they are completely incompetent which would explain a lot of their "mistakes" over the past 6 months. Kirby is IMO biased on israel's side, and I don't believe much he says. I didn't expect you to but its not about what you believe. 1 2
Jeff the Chef Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 Three British nationals have been killed by an Israeli air strike as they were working to deliver food aid in Gaza. They were among seven workers with the charity World Central Kitchen who died after attacks on their vehicles - despite having coordinated with the Israeli military over their movements. The Foreign Secretary David Cameron has called on Israel to provide a 'full, transparent explanation of what happened'. Israel has promised an independent investigation of what Prime Minister Netanyahu called 'a tragic incident'. Warning: This report contains distressing images. 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When you go swanning about a WAR ZONE, there is always the chance that you will be killed. It is the height of stupidity to try and do humanitarian assistance while the conflict is ongoing, especially when one side of the conflict specializes in hiding in civilian areas and disguising themselves as 'innocent' civilians. Let Israel finish the needed job of extinguishing Hamas and then you can deliver all the aid you want. Until then, stay out of it. Not to mention, the odds of the aid going to innocent victims is remarkably low, if history is anything to go by. Hamas is notorioius for simply stealing any aid that has gone into Gaza for the past 15 years. Why should now be any different? 2 7 3 3
Popular Post couchpotato Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When you go swanning about a WAR ZONE, there is always the chance that you will be killed. It is the height of stupidity to try and do humanitarian assistance while the conflict is ongoing, especially when one side of the conflict specializes in hiding in civilian areas and disguising themselves as 'innocent' civilians. Let Israel finish the needed job of extinguishing Hamas and then you can deliver all the aid you want. Until then, stay out of it. Not to mention, the odds of the aid going to innocent victims is remarkably low, if history is anything to go by. Hamas is notorioius for simply stealing any aid that has gone into Gaza for the past 15 years. Why should now be any different? especially when one side of the conflict specializes in hiding in civilian areas and disguising themselves as 'innocent' civilians. And the other side don't care who they eliminate, and specializes in that goal whether it be Hamas or innocent women and children, and now aid workers. 1 2 1 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, couchpotato said: especially when one side of the conflict specializes in hiding in civilian areas and disguising themselves as 'innocent' civilians. And the other side don't care who they eliminate, and specializes in that goal whether it be Hamas or innocent women and children, and now aid workers. ...and any casualties caused by Hamas hiding among civilians is 100% the fault of Hamas, NOT the IDF. If Israel "didnt care who they eliminate", the casualty figures for the war would be astronomical. Not the very low numbers we have now, even if we are to believe Hamas' propaganda. 30,000 deaths in six months, including Hamas fighters, is a remarkable achievement by the IDF and worthy of praise. 3 4 1 3
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: ...and any casualties caused by Hamas hiding among civilians is 100% the fault of Hamas, NOT the IDF. Hamas are Palestinians,to expect palestinians not to be among palestinians is to say the least unreasonable. What do you expect Hamas to do. Go to Hamas designated areas? 3 1 2 2 2
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 28 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When you go swanning about a WAR ZONE, there is always the chance that you will be killed. It is the height of stupidity to try and do humanitarian assistance while the conflict is ongoing, especially when one side of the conflict specializes in hiding in civilian areas and disguising themselves as 'innocent' civilians. Let Israel finish the needed job of extinguishing Hamas and then you can deliver all the aid you want. Until then, stay out of it. Not to mention, the odds of the aid going to innocent victims is remarkably low, if history is anything to go by. Hamas is notorioius for simply stealing any aid that has gone into Gaza for the past 15 years. Why should now be any different? It has been reported the vehicle was hit by a drone as the Israelis thought their was an armed terrorist inside. The vehicle was marked both on the roof and sides identifying as belonging to WCK. WCK had notified the IDF of it's passage per usual protocol. Israelis claiming a mistake was made is a laughable understatement. One hopes the person giving the order to fire faces a jail sentence. 3 1 2 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, sirineou said: Hamas are Palestinians,to expect palestinians not to be among palestinians is to say the least unreasonable. What do you expect Hamas to do. Go to Hamas designated areas? No, I expect them to die. OR perhaps fight according to generally accepted standards of combat. But when they choose to not follow those standards, and instead deliberately put civilians in harms' way, then the fault is theirs. From the beginning of the conflict, when Hamas made the conscous decision to target innocent civilians in Israel (rather than the Israeli military), they have shown their contempt for any decent moral standards. So now, they reap what they have sown. 1 2 2 1
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, simple1 said: It has been reported the vehicle was hit by a drone as the Israelis thought their was an armed terrorist inside. The vehicle was marked both on the roof and sides identifying as belonging to WCK. WCK had notified the IDF of it's passage per usual protocol. Israelis claiming a mistake was made is a laughable understatement. One hopes the person giving the order to fire faces a jail sentence. Hamas has a storied history of hiding behind civilian labels and charities. You know, like digging tunnels and bunkers underneath hospitals, using schools for weapons storage, using ambulances to transport terrorists, firing missiles from mosques, etc. So no surprise that the Israelis might have not simply taken them at their word about this particular vehicle. 1 2 1
Popular Post tgw Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 17 minutes ago, sirineou said: Hamas are Palestinians,to expect palestinians not to be among palestinians is to say the least unreasonable. What do you expect Hamas to do. Go to Hamas designated areas? I think Israel is doing it wrong. After locking down Gaza, they should have organized supplies deliveries to Gaza and built temporary camps outside of Gaza to welcome temporarily displaced Gazans. Then, the Israeli military should have proceeded block by block, ordering habitants to leave via secure corridors and then be filtrated with serious background checks. Those determined not to be HAMAS or HAMAS sympathisers/supporters could then be temporarily sheltered in the camps, with full support by international NGO. Then the military would very thoroughly search the evacuated block, which would then be made a heavily guarded no man's land. Then the next block. When the guarded no man's land moves to the next block and frees up a safe block, its inhabitants could return, fully supported by international NGO, after maybe one or two months it took to clear their block. This method seems a no brainer, I'm puzzled as to why they didn't proceed like that, but then I know Nethanyahu's methods, which I despise. 2 1 1
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: OR perhaps fight according to generally accepted standards of combat. You are joking right? Hamas in a symmetrical war with Israel. 1 1 1
Popular Post couchpotato Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: ...and any casualties caused by Hamas hiding among civilians is 100% the fault of Hamas, NOT the IDF. If Israel "didnt care who they eliminate", the casualty figures for the war would be astronomical. Not the very low numbers we have now, even if we are to believe Hamas' propaganda. 30,000 deaths in six months, including Hamas fighters, is a remarkable achievement by the IDF and worthy of praise. Praise!!...30,000 deaths (and 70k injured) including women and children, is only worthy of contempt and ridicule. 1 1 4
sirineou Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, tgw said: I think Israel is doing it wrong. After locking down Gaza, they should have organized supplies deliveries to Gaza and built temporary camps outside of Gaza to welcome temporarily displaced Gazans. Then, the Israeli military should have proceeded block by block, ordering habitants to leave via secure corridors and then be filtrated with serious background checks. Those determined not to be HAMAS or HAMAS sympathisers could then be temporarily sheltered in the camps, with full support by international NGO. Then the military would very thoroughly search the evacuated block, which would then be made a heavily guarded no man's land. Then the next block. When the guarded no man's land moves to the next block and frees up a safe block, its inhabitants could return, fully supported by international NGO, after maybe one or two months it took to clear their block. This method seems a no brainer, I'm puzzled as to why they didn't proceed like that, but then I know Nethanyahu's methods, which I despise. You mean something like a jail riot? Lock the inmates in secured areas and then go after the troublemakers. 2
Bkk Brian Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 1 minute ago, couchpotato said: Praise!!...30,000 deaths (and 70k injured) including women and children, is only worthy of contempt and ridicule. Considering that 13,000 of that figure is Hamas terrorists killed and another 13,000 comes from unverified sources, yes praise be indeed. 3 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Obviously a mistake but a big mistake. There is the war war and the PR war. Israel is losing the PR war badly. Netanyahu should resign but of course he won't. 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Danny Australia Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Only a rouge state would target a foreign diplomatic mission in the morning, then mercilessly taking the lives of seven global volunteers from the World Central Kitchen in the evening. This heinous act came on the heels of a two-week onslaught on a significant hospital, resulting in the loss, mistreatment, or detention of countless individuals, including medical personnel. This series of atrocities not only transgresses moral boundaries but also flagrantly violates three cornerstone international agreements: the Geneva Convention, the Vienna Convention, and the Rome Statute. Such brazen disregard for established protocols underscores the urgent need for accountability and justice on the global stage. 1 3 1 5
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Too much blood ... This war could have been won by Israel with much less civilian casualties . But indiscriminate bombing of whole areas instead of targeting specific subjects only , leads to just that . Israel used it's huge military superiority for a genocide instead of targeted strikes , whole families have been killed . The Israelis just have shown by the precise destruction of the Iranian consulate that they are capable of doing that . It looks like the strike on the World Central Kitchen was such a targeted strike as well ...? We will never know , because they would never admit it . Israel only creates more hate , and that hate will last a long time . They will win the war by military oppression , but they will never get peace like this . Even if there would be a palestinian state in the future , I doubt that it would ever be a peaceful coexistence . A ( palestinian ) holocaust is something to avoid when surrounded by arabian enemies . But , that is what they decided , it was the wrong decision , they will find out later ... Nazi Germany wanted territorial expansion ... does Israel want this , too ? The Holocaust by the Nazis is something Israel wants the world to always remember . This ongoing genocide is something the world will always remember as well ... Sad that it has come to this , but hate is a stronger feeling than empathy . 2 1 6
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 28 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: Too much blood ... This war could have been won by Israel with much less civilian casualties . But indiscriminate bombing of whole areas instead of targeting specific subjects only , leads to just that . Israel used it's huge military superiority for a genocide instead of targeted strikes , whole families have been killed . The Israelis just have shown by the precise destruction of the Iranian consulate that they are capable of doing that . It looks like the strike on the World Central Kitchen was such a targeted strike as well ...? We will never know , because they would never admit it . Israel only creates more hate , and that hate will last a long time . They will win the war by military oppression , but they will never get peace like this . Even if there would be a palestinian state in the future , I doubt that it would ever be a peaceful coexistence . A ( palestinian ) holocaust is something to avoid when surrounded by arabian enemies . But , that is what they decided , it was the wrong decision , they will find out later ... Nazi Germany wanted territorial expansion ... does Israel want this , too ? The Holocaust by the Nazis is something Israel wants the world to always remember . This ongoing genocide is something the world will always remember as well ... Sad that it has come to this , but hate is a stronger feeling than empathy . Please, enough of the hysterical references to genocide and holocaust. Neither of those are happening here. Even using the bs numbers issued by Hamas, something like 20,000 civilians have been killed. In 6 months. It is an amazing accomplishment that the IDF has kept casualties so low while fighting a terrorist occupation in a congested area. Don't forget that civilian casualties would be ZERO if Hamas surrendered and released their hostages. Zero. 3 3 1 3
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: enough of the hysterical references to genocide and holocaust. Neither of those are happening here. 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: In 6 months. It is an amazing accomplishment that the IDF has kept casualties so low Sure , there was no choice for Israel ... ? But there was no will ... 4
Popular Post pegman Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Tragic mistake. 3 British killed among the 7 in total. Kirby: No evidence Israel has broken international law Kirby is asked if firing a missile at people delivering food and killing them is a violation of international humanitarian law. “The Israelis have already admitted that this was a mistake that they made," Kirby says, reiterating that an investigation is being carried out into what happened. “Let’s not get ahead of that.” He says the question presumes that the Israeli strike against aid workers was deliberate and that they knew what they were hitting, to which he adds, “there’s no evidence of that". John "Bagdad Bob" Kirby. The very last person to go to for any truth. Well maybe just before Biden or Trump. 3
Popular Post NativeBob Posted April 3, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2024 Isn't it the right time to apply NATO's article 5 and send polish and frehch forces to Israel? 1 1 1 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 Just now, pegman said: John "Bagdad Bob" Kirby. The very last person to go to for any truth. Well maybe just before Biden or Trump. So what is he lying about exactly 1
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