Trump Harris: Who won the debate ?

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That is not the moderators job. No one is saying that fact checking should not happen.

So, fact checks were appropriate, the moderators did their job, but it gave you a sad. Got it.

 

Until and unless you can identify specific fact checks that were wrong, you're just whining.

[thaibeachlovers]

35 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

More to the point, if one candidate lies more than the other and gets fact checked a lot more, the lying candidate can get by if he has army of online trolls who claim that the moderators are biased.

 

We know that you are trolling when you don't address the actual lies that Trump told.

Had Harris actually said anything factual, instead of mouthing platitudes, she may have had said something worth fact checking. Wishful thinking can't be fact checked.

[LosLobo]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Had Harris actually said anything factual, instead of mouthing platitudes, she may have had said something worth fact checking. Wishful thinking can't be fact checked.

Right! Pot kettle black!

[LosLobo]

19 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Scary brown people 

Interestingly, this morning Fox News is doing somersaults trying to normalize Trump's indefensible cat eating Haitian conspiracy theory.

'The Haitian rumor is only the latest example of the Trump campaign stoking racial divides'.

Anatomy of a racist smear: How false claims of pet-eating immigrants caught on - The Washington Post (archive.md)

[EVENKEEL]

55 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Scary brown people 

Put the citizens out of work with lower wages. People evicted to make room for the Haitians who bring in higher gov assistance. Crime. Why don't you go live there and report back.

[gamb00ler]

9 hours ago, maesariang said:

Load of nonsense. The stock has been trending down for weeks.

I guess you could say the investors are becoming "woke".

[bamnutsak]

In the spin room Trump claimed he won the debate and began quoting "numbers" which supported his claim.

 

If he thinks he won, why complain about the format, moderators, and fact-checking?

 

He had more minutes speaking (42:52 to 37:36), and more lies of course (30+ to 1).

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/11/politics/video/trump-debate-performance-spin-room-collins-digvid

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Total tripe. Anyone could see the supposed "moderators" ambushed only one candidate with their "fact checking". It was a clear effort to favour Harris and they took sides. Everybody could see it.

 

Anyone who claims otherwise has not watched the debate or is taking the mick, or even worse.

 

 

Kiss that Republican party lost and you are now true MAGA for good

[Tug]

Hey you magga guys and gals are you tired of winning yet?you must be exhausted lmao 😂 on a serious note I implore all folks leaning towards trump to see just how easy it is to derail this guy……that ain’t good turn the page get squared away and come back next time we need republican balance !QUALITY republicans not nut jobs!

[cjinchiangrai]

16 minutes ago, Tug said:

Hey you magga guys and gals are you tired of winning yet?you must be exhausted lmao 😂 on a serious note I implore all folks leaning towards trump to see just how easy it is to derail this guy……that ain’t good turn the page get squared away and come back next time we need republican balance !QUALITY republicans not nut jobs!

They are being paid by Putin to spout their bile. Relax.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Exactly, which is why I said it was a mistake for Trump to play her game on an enemy station ( with an obviously biased moderator that was prepared to offer her support during the debate ).

If he does decide to do another, the  rules should require the moderators to not say anything other than ask the questions.

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not the moderators job to correct what the candidates say. That is up to the opposing participant to point out in response time.

It's certainly biased when it's only done to one participant. It was a disgrace.

Sure, let him lie and/or oblige Harris to spend her allotted time correcting lies. 

All he has to do is not lie, but he can't.

Since trump declared 'no second debate ' it seems a moo point anyway (to quote Joey from Friends).

[Will B Good]

 

 

Hand on heart....you have to feel sorry for sensible, level-headed Republicans.

 

Trump doubles down on wild pet eating comments at rally after Harris debate: Live - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-news-polls-debate-live-b2611012.html

[ExpatOilWorker]

Trump was right after all!!!

[Walker88]

"It was my best debate yet"

 

"All the polls say I won"

 

Pathological liar or batsh!t crazy and delusional?

 

Either way, it's not good and not someone who should have the nuclear codes.

 

Jimmy Kimmel (a late night talk show host), put together a video of two things: all the people and things the debate loser claimed he didn't know anything about (such as former Imperial Wizard of the KKK David Duke, who endorsed the felon, Project 2025, Wikileaks, white supremacists, the Proud Boys, etc.) or things about which the felon claims "Nobody knows more about than me" (e.g., technology, fertilization, banking, ISIS, nukes, wind, ethanol, trade, drones, environmental impact, McDonald's menu).  The last one might be true.

 

Now his airplane mate is one Laura Loomer, a bizarre conspiratorialist who is, inter alia, a "Truther" and a racist and bigot who posted about a Harris White House smelling like curry and where the switchboard gets forwarded to a call center in Bangalore. Loomer is one of the main pushers of the Haitian Dog and Cat cookbook, or whatever that nonsense is. When fellow lunatic Marjorie Taylor Greene says Loomer is a bad influence, you know the campaign has gone down a deep rabbit hole (no doubt where sits a Haitain immigrant kitchen)

 

 

[gargamon]

13 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

“It was my best debate yet"

 

"All the polls say I won"

Trump only looks at straw polls, where there's no controls. The same person can vote thousands of times, and by setting up a script can vote even more.

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not the moderators job to correct what the candidates say. That is up to the opposing participant to point out in response time.

It's certainly biased when it's only done to one participant. It was a disgrace.

33 lies to 1

Lying so much to win voters is a disgrace.

MAGA supporters fall for these false statements.

[Will B Good]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not the moderators job to correct what the candidates say. That is up to the opposing participant to point out in response time.

It's certainly biased when it's only done to one participant. It was a disgrace.

 

She was to use the whole debate do nothing but correct his 33 lies.......sensible?????

 

 

 

[xylophone]

13 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Thank you for a New Zealand view of US elections.

Well his view was in the minority, as the National Newspaper, in a poll came up with the following:--

 

In a poll by the NZ Herald just after the debate, Harris received 81% of the poll whilst trump received 19%.

 

Seems very clear to me and as a NZ citizen I believe the findings of the poll!

[nauseus]

16 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

How long until the Trumpers accuse Kamala Harris of elder abuse?

That was weeks ago.

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

It is the moderator's obligation to point out factually incorrect information. The rules were straightforward. The two seated moderators were the only people asking questions. Moderators will ensure a civilized discussion. Insisting that immigrants were eating the cats, dogs, pets of Springfield despite there being no evidence to support the claim  was not civilized. It was inflammatory and hateful.

 

 

That is your subjective opinion. It is not evidence of an intentional lie as was the case with Trump.

 

 

Your comments are consistently Pro Putin, Pro Trump.

 

 

The Democrat Party candidate was selected by a vote of the delegates at the Democrat convention. President Biden had not been selected as the Democrat party candidate.  Are you denying that there was a vote? Prior to the Biden withdrawal, the 2 people running were office were Biden and Harris.  If people were opposed to Harris as the VP, they did not have to support the Biden ticket which included Harris.

 

 

What is the lie about abortion?

 

 

That is your subjective opinion which you keep regurgitating. We get it. You are opposed to VP Harris. You are opposed to support for Ukraine.You support Putin. We get it. No need to keep repeating.

 

 

There was no invasion and there are not 20,000. Springfield is a city, not a town.

How many times does it need to be repeated, that the city and county was dying as younger people, and entry workers fled the city and the county. The city, county and state were desperately trying to get people to come. The city once had a population of close to 71,000. Over the past 30 years, it slowly lost people. The city population is now approx 58,000. If the immigrant population is 12,000-15,000 it means that the city would have had a population of 43,000-46,000. Cities that lose populations like this die.   Instead, the influx of immigrants  provides economic life and a future tax base. More importantly, it doesn't stress housing. One of the biggest problems in the USA is affordable housing and Springfield was filled with vacant residential properties. The influx of immigrants will save the city.

 

But not Tiddles and Rover!

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Total tripe. Anyone could see the supposed "moderators" ambushed only one candidate with their "fact checking". It was a clear effort to favour Harris and they took sides. Everybody could see it.

 

Anyone who claims otherwise has not watched the debate or is taking the mick, or even worse.

 

 

 

Agree.

 

That was not a debate. Harris failed to describe or argue for any of her intended "policies" in any detail at all. Still nobody really knows what she might do if she wins but with so much missing, undecided voters will be a lot more wary of her than Trump. If she wanted to woo voters she missed her best opportunity, nationally. After concentrating on baiting Trump instead, many will see that she really has nothing good to offer. 

 

ABC "fact" checking Trump only! Farcical. 

[frank83628]

On 9/12/2024 at 11:13 AM, Will B Good said:

 

 

Did it not cross your mind that maybe....just maybe (and I know this will be hard to take in)......she didn't lie?

lucky for Twitter someone is counting......i wonder if the 'eating pets' will turn out to be correct

 

https://x.com/RubinReport/status/1833964139330633916

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Hey you magga guys and gals are you tired of winning yet?you must be exhausted lmao 😂 on a serious note I implore all folks leaning towards trump to see just how easy it is to derail this guy……that ain’t good turn the page get squared away and come back next time we need republican balance !QUALITY republicans not nut jobs!

Go wake up Joe. Time for his fruit cup

[Cameroni]

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Agree.

 

That was not a debate. Harris failed to describe or argue for any of her intended "policies" in any detail at all. Still nobody really knows what she might do if she wins but with so much missing, undecided voters will be a lot more wary of her than Trump. If she wanted to woo voters she missed her best opportunity, nationally. After concentrating on baiting Trump instead, many will see that she really has nothing good to offer. 

 

ABC "fact" checking Trump only! Farcical. 

 

The moderators indeed made the debate a farce and very one-sided.

 

Trump is right not to agree to another debate. Not only would he debate against 3 people, but the complete lack of objectivity in the mainstream media only gives him bad publicity. 

 

He would be ill advised to do another debate.

[Cameroni]

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

She was to use the whole debate do nothing but correct his 33 lies.......sensible?????

 

 

 

 

It's true Trump lied a lot. But Harris lied non-stop a s well. Why did the fact  checkers not call out her lies?

 

She claimed Trump was responsible for the pandemic!!! What???

 

She said Agenda 2025 was Trump's policy....Not so.

 

She implied Trump opposed IVF...when he wants it paid for and supports it.

 

Yet, ABC moderators did not call her on a single one of her lies.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The moderators indeed made the debate a farce and very one-sided.

 

Trump is right not to agree to another debate. Not only would he debate against 3 people, but the complete lack of objectivity in the mainstream media only gives him bad publicity. 

 

He would be ill advised to do another debate.

You said lack of objectivity I have news for you:

 

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You said lack of objectivity I have news for you:

 

"On substance President Trump wins"

 

Hardly news, we all saw that.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

"On substance President Trump wins"

 

Hardly news, we all saw that.

Can you pronounce Delusional 

Even the worm eaten (soon to be) new VP has more going for him

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Can you pronounce Delusional 

Even the worm eaten (soon to be) new VP has more going for him

 

Not only can I pronounce it, I can see it in black and white all over the US media, where they in all seriousness claim Kamala Harris won the debate. There appears to be a mass delusion under way among many in the US.

[earlinclaifornia]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not only can I pronounce it, I can see it in black and white all over the US media, where they in all seriousness claim Kamala Harris won the debate. There appears to be a mass delusion under way among many in the US.

Wow that takes it to a new low meaning to a MAGA cult squirming.

 

nobody likes me , everybody hates me, sitting in a garden, eating worms.