1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

there is no way to actially prove that, for normal fit & healthy people COVID was not a great threat, children even less.

It was mainly affecting the elderly and those with preexisting comorbidities

Congratulations on managing to deviate the discussion. 

Just now, stevenl said:

Congratulations on managing to deviate the discussion. 

Dont act like a child, i replying to a comment.

Don't like it, scroll by, I wasnt talking to you anyway. 

 

12 hours ago, johng said:

here also seems to be a need to retrain doctors ( medical community)  to actually think  for them self  not just follow a script !  yes  quite a difficult task.

We certainly must encourage each and every doctor to re-discover all the physics, chemistry and bio-chemistry underlying ALL modern health care.

 

Is it possible to have a more moronic notion than this?

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Dont act like a child, i replying to a comment.

Don't like it, scroll by, I wasnt talking to you anyway. 

 

This is not the environment for private conversations.  All posts are open to comment in the public forums.

 

Each poster has to accept that not everyone will agree with their posts and be prepared for comments (that follow forum rules) on their opinion.  If you can't stand the heat/embarrassment, step out of the kitchen.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Dont act like a child, i replying to a comment.

Don't like it, scroll by, I wasnt talking to you anyway. 

 

Don't like it, point out you're trolling was my reaction. As it will remain.

15 hours ago, johng said:

 

Agree 100%  I hope that that some justice/retribution  has begun

and the first precept of medicine  "do no harm"  is restored and reinforced

there also seems to be a need to retrain doctors ( medical community)  to actually think  for them self  not just follow a script !  yes  quite a difficult task.

If "do no harm" was to be strictly enforced, then the medical profession would come to a complete stop. There are always risks to be incurred in virtually any course of treatment.

As for training the medical community to think for itself...you mean to follow ill-supported claims rather than the science? Where are those studies you claim support the case for linking autism to vaccination?

17 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So a crackpot hiring a crackpot. The loonies have indeed completely taken over the asylum.

I guess I could be right in saying you do not support The Don, and his efforts to clean things up. The US Medical Establishment certainly needs a good sweeping. During the past 100+ years it has grown into an anti-science monster.

 

There are kids dying in poorer countries from lack of clean water. While Americans suffer from Big Pharma's medicines.

 

I welcome the examination into autism. I reckon there will we a lot of changes once it is revealed/published. 

 

I'd like to see more; and I've told Kennedy so. Redo many of the so-called virus trials, and lab experiments since Enders in 54. But! Let's have independent observers on hand 24/7. And why not a control for each? We would soon see some squealing from the top medical doggies if that happened. And it might. Early days yet.

 

Some of these white-coats have become very wealthy by promoting anti-nature junk-science. I, for one, would like to see this Big Pharma quackery brought to light.

17 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I had expected people that supported the forceful vaxxing of people who were rightfully skeptical of the experimental muck might be having a moment of quiet reflection. Guess not.

 

Surely democrats can understand why their politically beneficial disinformation and censorship of fact concerning origins of a certain pandemic and experimental vax efficiency has done for science what a moustachioed Austrian did for an ancient peace sign?

 

 

Post of the Year

15 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Don't like it, point out you're trolling was my reaction. As it will remain.

When someone has a difference of opinion that the other doesnt like, the usual cry of 'trolling' comes out. 

Like I said, my comment was nothing to do with you, you could have scrolled by. You chose not too.

 

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

When someone has a difference of opinion that the other doesnt like, the usual cry of 'trolling' comes out. 

Like I said, my comment was nothing to do with you, you could have scrolled by. You chose not too.

 

When the topic is autism caused by vaccines and a research into that by a crackpot, posting about COVID vaccines is trolling. Nothing to do with a difference of opinions on the topic.

You choose not to ignore my comment.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

there is no way to actially prove that, for normal fit & healthy people COVID was not a great threat, children even less.

It was mainly affecting the elderly and those with preexisting comorbidities

Well, given that about 40% of adult Americans are obese, that's quite a lot with pre-existing comorbidities. And, of course, the anti-vaccination partisans claim that covid vaccinations haven't been proven to be safer than not getting vaccinated. Which is false.

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Post of the Year

What year?

If you have children, make sure they have all of their shots, including the most recent MMR shots, flu shots, RSP shots, and Covid shots.  Never can be too safe.  Maybe get them twice to be sure.  You too.

18 minutes ago, connda said:

If you have children, make sure they have all of their shots, including the most recent MMR shots, flu shots, RSP shots, and Covid shots.  Never can be too safe.  Maybe get them twice to be sure.  You too.

Are you setting yourself up as a rival authority to the CDC?

Where do you disagree with the guidelines set by the CDC or similar health authorities?

56 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, given that about 40% of adult Americans are obese, that's quite a lot with pre-existing comorbidities. And, of course, the anti-vaccination partisans claim that covid vaccinations haven't been proven to be safer than not getting vaccinated. Which is false.

Again there isn't really much been done to prove that, however its off topic, someone cried about it earlier, so I'll wait for a COVID thread.

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Again there isn't really much been done to prove that, however its off topic, someone cried about it earlier, so I'll wait for a COVID thread.

Here you go:

https://aseannow.com/topic/1356417-covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows/#comment-19700735

 

As the vaccine was untested with the normal procedures it is not unreasonable to research what side effects it could cause.

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

"Despite a mountain of scientific evidence concluding there's no link between autism and vaccines, noted anti-vaccine figure and health secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. is trying to double down on the long-debunked theory.

 Rule of thumb:  whenever you see the words "long-debunked" in an article, you would be safe in concluding that you're reading a biased article.  RFK Jr. has good reason to question the link between vaccines and autism.  And if there really is no link, then why be afraid of a new study? 

38 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 Rule of thumb:  whenever you see the words "long-debunked" in an article, you would be safe in concluding that you're reading a biased article.  RFK Jr. has good reason to question the link between vaccines and autism.  And if there really is no link, then why be afraid of a new study? 

 how about the Christmas going to be a huge waste of money and resources. Resources that are already being cut to the bone by RFK.

46 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 RFK Jr. has good reason to question the link between vaccines and autism.

Really?? Well let's hear it then.

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I am proud of my support for the Covid vaccines that saved countless lives. But had I known there would be such an anti-vaxx movement among the MAGA crowd I would have been in favor of making it a voluntary matter.

Of course, the anti-vaxxers should then have been denied medical assistance if they got ill from Covid. Because, obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

An anti-vaxxer and an anti-mRNA vaxxer are not mutually inclusive. You simply sprout the demonisation line pushed by the the Democrats, the CDC and the MSM. 

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

An anti-vaxxer and an anti-mRNA vaxxer are not mutually inclusive. You simply sprout the demonisation line pushed by the the Democrats, the CDC and the MSM. 

What part of the "line" is demonic?

19 hours ago, TedG said:

But people with the VAX still got COVID.  

And the people that didn't, died from covid.

19 hours ago, TedG said:

But people with the VAX still got COVID.  

Yes, they did. But because they were vaccinated, their bodies were better equipped to deal with the virus. So less chance of serious complications, and less chance of dying. 

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

If "do no harm" was to be strictly enforced, then the medical profession would come to a complete stop. There are always risks to be incurred in virtually any course of treatment.

As for training the medical community to think for itself...you mean to follow ill-supported claims rather than the science? Where are those studies you claim support the case for linking autism to vaccination?

There are many studies that have disproved the autism claims. The doctor that made the claims has been well debunked and lost his license. The only reason it got any attention at all was because of Jenny McCarthy, a cute but stupid Playboy model.

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 how about the Christmas going to be a huge waste of money and resources. Resources that are already being cut to the bone by RFK.

Christmas?

32 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What part of the "line" is demonic?

If you don't know what demonisation means that's on you. 

4 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Christmas?

I forgot to check the results of my dictation before I sent it. Tell substitute study or research for Christmas.

20 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

There are many studies that have disproved the autism claims. The doctor that made the claims has been well debunked and lost his license. The only reason it got any attention at all was because of Jenny McCarthy, a cute but stupid Playboy model.

He wasn't just a fraudster trying to get himself glory. He actually had a whole financial scheme worked out to profit from his fake research.

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I am proud of my support for the Covid vaccines that saved countless lives. But had I known there would be such an anti-vaxx movement among the MAGA crowd I would have been in favor of making it a voluntary matter.

Of course, the anti-vaxxers should then have been denied medical assistance if they got ill from Covid. Because, obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

 

And the Award for most Despicable Post of the Month goes to...

The Jury rewarded the blind obedience virtue-signalling with which you started this post, but then ditching your fake Saving Lives stance by quickly switching and showing your true colors as an intolerant crypto-fascist.  For a Newbie member, you sure are making friends quickly here,