Restrictions can be lifted, but very gradually, experts say

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, jmurch said:

Hairdresser and beauty salons open first? People have to look good before they can go back to work? Sorry I don't understand this!

You don't understand this? Then I'll take a guess that you're male and possibly unattached. ????

 

[Matzzon]

25 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Yesterday you were slamming everyone for not listening to the "experts"..

Seems you are batting for the other side today ????

Can you just stop with this. If you do not see how out of sync with reality this mans comment is, then that is not my problem. Have a nice day now, and go focus on someone else instead.

[Iforbach]

All moaners and babblers  should be in  lock down for 3 months and another 3 months if they carry on moaning ..and not allowed internet access..a breath of fresh air ..

[connda]

When the masses start rebelling because they have neither jobs, nor money, and eventually no food - the government can then point the finger at "the experts."

"The experts caused this.  The experts told us not to let you get back to work.  Experts kept us from giving you money." 

Find a witch to burn on the alter of public discontent.  Deflect blame.  If that fails, break out the Army and crush dissent.  Thailand 101.  That's how it's done people.

 

Edited April 15, 2020 by connda

[connda]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead and must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country. He said this move may help the private sector arrange quarantine sites for visitors. 

Thank goodness they are going to kill tourism.  Less foot traffic to contend with in the cities. The coral will recover in the sea.  Less pushy tuk tuk drives will be on the road.  Jet ski scams will collapse.  Sounds like heaven.  I hope that they implement that plan!  Kudos!  Excellent idea.

[smedly]

They are no sooner into this lockdown and are now wanting to end it because someone got their calculator out

 

and since they are testing very few few people they have absolutely no idea of the virus status in the country - the data is complete garbage because they wouldn't pay for mass testing, personally I assume the infection and mortality rate is similar to other countries round the world which means Thailand has tens of thousands of infections and deaths directly due to CV-19 but there is no way to confirm it and the Government seems to want to keep it that way 

Edited April 15, 2020 by smedly

[smedly]

13 minutes ago, Iforbach said:

All moaners and babblers  should be in  lock down for 3 months and another 3 months if they carry on moaning ..and not allowed internet access..a breath of fresh air ..

can we start with you - lets have a vote and lets add a few names to the list while we're at it - let the people decide

[wasabi]

1 hour ago, Phuketboy said:

I understand they need to take precautions, but let's have someone with a brain actually make the decisions.

 

So a tourist who has a week or two vacation, has to quarantine for 14 days?  No point in coming, so never going to work.

 

Wonder if they are still going to put all their eggs in one basket and focus purely on their beloved Chinese again.  That was a disaster last time and I don't give a <deleted> what <deleted> TAT numbers are, one only has to use their eyes and look around that the country has been declining since 2014 when the military took over. Remember back 10 years ago, streets were packed with tourists, had to walk on the road because there were too may people on the sidewalk, hotels full, tours full, beaches packed, lucky to get a seat in bars and restaurants and shops and even shops where full.  year on year this has been dropping. Now (before Corona), half the bars are closed, restaurants half empty, shops and business struggling, sidewalks empty, beaches still have people but nothing to what it was.  

 

Focusing exclusively on Chinese tourists NEVER made sense to me. I understand Thailand cozied up with China because of Chinese infrastructure investment but there was nothing in that initiative that stated they had to double down on giving Chinese tourists 'privileges' exclusive to them. There was never a reason to focus on one demographic whilst excluding another. In fact immigration and the Thai government has become openly hostile to western tourists who while less in number have steadier income and spend more and don't tend to create worldwide pandemics from unsanitary eating conditions. Why not hedge the bet and market to all tourists? Thailand's predilection for xenophobia has decimated their economy in ways beyond what most countries will suffer. I still love Thailand and think this can be fixed but I do not have high hopes. Oh well. 

[realfunster]

1 hour ago, Phuketboy said:

Wonder if they are still going to put all their eggs in one basket and focus purely on their beloved Chinese again

Well, that’s going to be the option which requires least effort for the TAT, so it almost certainly the one that will be taken!
 

Plus, the Chinese will likely be the first major nation coming out the other side of COVID and start travelling again.

 

 

[newnative]

14 day quarantine for tourists?  Brain dead.  Don't they realize that most tourists visit for a week to 10 days or so--especially the package tours?  Some tours are even shorter.  Brain dead.

[connda]

1 hour ago, Oziex1 said:

All over the world there is pressure from the greedies and the ill informed to lift restrictions, the more enlightened leaders are having none of it.

I believe Thailand will not be easing any restrictions soon.

Thank God!  Good to know that the enlightened leaders will keep those pesky plebs locked up.  Lord, whinging about not being able to earn money for food.  Break out the military and show those cheeky troublemakers a thing or two.  Let the rich out first, those who aren't locked down that is.  Open the malls for those who have money.  Yeah.  Keep those little people locked away until next year.  They're a nuisance anyway. 

[smedly]

12 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

The comment above have absolutely no relation to this thread about restrictions being lifted and are off topic.

no harm to you but almost everything you post is off topic and is some sort of slant at another poster

[sukhumvitneon]

1 minute ago, connda said:

Thank God!  Good to know that the enlightened leaders will keep those pesky plebs locked up.  Lord, whinging about not being able to earn money for food.  Break out the military and show those cheeky troublemakers a thing or two.  Let the rich out first, those who aren't locked down that is.  Open the malls for those who have money.  Yeah.  Keep those little people locked away until next year.  They're a nuisance anyway. 

Little people in the US won't be let out until they get their Bill Gates vaccine/microchip

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

But I like engaging with you, I think we are connected !!

 

Ignore option is right there if you can't take what you like to give out...

 

Back on topic... As I said before, they will just copy whatever any other close by country does. Stall until they get a model to replicate (ie can blame later)

Indeed, this is what most countries are doing. NZ (think we're first) to make 14 day isolation for everyone including own citizens entering country.

AU followed couple days later.

Within AU one state closed its land and air entries. Almost instantly other states followed. 

As a leader of country or state or even local level it seems the thinking is must be seen to be on front foot. 

One state in OZ made max gathering 4 people. Victoria then raised the stakes to max gathering 2. etc etc

One big game of poker on world stage.

[smedly]

9 minutes ago, realfunster said:

Well, that’s going to be the option which requires least effort for the TAT, so it almost certainly the one that will be taken!
 

Plus, the Chinese will likely be the first major nation coming out the other side of COVID and start travelling again.

 

 

the Chinese are usually in quarantine anyway - plane bus hotel bus restaurant bus hotel rinse repeat 

[FarFlungFalang]

43 minutes ago, Iforbach said:

All moaners and babblers  should be in  lock down for 3 months and another 3 months if they carry on moaning ..and not allowed internet access..a breath of fresh air ..

I see you've out your hand up first for moaning about the moaners.Enjoy your 3 month lock down Bro.Whilst in lock down you can iron out your irony.

Edited April 15, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[superal]

2 hours ago, Thailand said:

I think that essential services like golf courses should open first to the over 70's.

 

 

And pleeeeease get rid of that damned video ad blocking the page!

Wish I could vote twice , missing my 3 games of golf a week plus that video is intrusive and annoying 

[Matzzon]

26 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

But I like engaging with you, I think we are connected !!

 

Ignore option is right there if you can't take what you like to give out...

 

Back on topic... As I said before, they will just copy whatever any other close by country does. Stall until they get a model to replicate (ie can blame later)

No problem, I can take everything as long as it has a relation to the topic. ???? 

Yes, you are right. Thailand copies a lot, and you seem to take it as they copy everything for have someone to blame later. Yes, maybe they do that, and then what this man just stated is going to be even more off, due to that no country will implement something like that.

But, with this way of thinking, do you then also mean that they copy the way of dealing with the numbers and statistics, as we discussed yesterday? In that case your reasoning means that Thailand is not hiding anything, other than copying from all other countries that started hiding the real numbers. Or is it different there? Can they suddenly come up with an idea all by themself in that case? Just interested in your opinion.

[Matzzon]

23 minutes ago, smedly said:

no harm to you but almost everything you post is off topic and is some sort of slant at another poster

Nope, almost always related to the topic and the posters opinion in the matter.  

[time2093]

4 hours ago, newnative said:

14 day quarantine for tourists?  Brain dead.  Don't they realize that most tourists visit for a week to 10 days or so--especially the package tours?  Some tours are even shorter.  Brain dead.

I think that's the Thai way of saying we dont want foreigners in Thailand?

Edited April 15, 2020 by blackcab
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[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, jmurch said:

Hairdresser and beauty salons open first? People have to look good before they can go back to work? Sorry I don't understand this!

Possibly because they are usually small enterprises and can regulate the number of people within the shop at anyone time, owners and customers can easily be protected by using masks and face shields, start small and slowly, then build up to the larger facilities, not hard to understand with a bit of lateral thinking.

[Yadon Toploy]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead and must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.

No tourist, with the exception of the most desperate sex-tourists will bother.

[Rimmer]

Some off topic / baiting posts and replies removed

[Oziex1]

33 minutes ago, connda said:

Thank God!  Good to know that the enlightened leaders will keep those pesky plebs locked up.  Lord, whinging about not being able to earn money for food.  Break out the military and show those cheeky troublemakers a thing or two.  Let the rich out first, those who aren't locked down that is.  Open the malls for those who have money.  Yeah.  Keep those little people locked away until next year.  They're a nuisance anyway. 

Restrictions are in place to deal with a pandemic that is killing thousands, but don't worry it cant penetrate your tin foil hat.

[aussienam]

2 hours ago, thaiclan said:

Singapore is in a lockdown worse than Thailand. You can't walk down the street with someone unless they are from your household. You can't visit someone's house or receive a visitor either. Tracking is done via your phone, so you may think you have gotten away with it until that knock on your door comes...

I know foreigners who have been caught breaking the lockdown rules who have had their work permits revoked and been banned entry for life.

Singapore is edging up to 4,000 cases and so the early lax rules they had about the virus has been completely flipped now and they are in full lockdown. Although funnily they won't call it lockdown and instead say it's just a 'circuit breaker' LOL!

I found it astounding that in the midst of a pandemic that the world is trying to get rid of that there are idiots (COVIDIOTS) who think that the lockdown rules don't apply to them as if they are special somehow and are immune to spreading the virus.  If you are an idiot then you deserve to get the penalties that the government dishes out.  The rest of us are stuck inside suffering so no sympathy for the idiots.  

[sandyf]

"In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead and must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country. "

 

Wonder if UK immigration got the memo, or maybe they actually mean "tourists"

 

American-born Katie Collins, 60, said she felt “broken” and afraid after being told by the Home Office on Monday morning that she must return to US by Saturday or be deported to Thailand – the last nation from which she entered the UK.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woman-coronavirus-uk-deported-home-office-us-aberdeen-a9462961.html

[DPKANKAN]

2 hours ago, Greg O said:

Have these "experts and officials" been swabbed for the Stupid Gene to see if it's environmental or acquired ? 

Don't need to be swabbed. They opened their mouths!!!????????????????????????????????

[Jimbo2014]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead and must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.

A new slogan for TAT.  "Come to Thailand and be quarantined!" - Do many tourists stay much longer than 2 months.  Seems the inside of a Thai quarantine unit isolated with other potential coronavirus patients cases may be the new Thai experience.  Amazing Thailand indeed! 

[Oziex1]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Sounds like a statement from someone with ready access to money. 

People (the less fortunate ones) need work which equates to food.

This situation has seen me lose my job in Australia, I am deemed to be a casual worker and will receive no support.

 

Thais need support from their Government and travel restrictions need to remain in place.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Oziex1

[Millcx]

Open gradual 55555 Just like the closed gradual 55555

If ever a country is going to be hit with a return its Thailand

These comments of opening must be due to rising of people against Gov ... It’s sad to see the way they are saying that they have found the mirical cure unlike ALL the other ASEAN countries ... Praise the lord for the fine facilities “;0)