3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

but before they kept saying that tourism was not an important source of income for Thailand, what made them change their view

time is the answer,when things show themselves lies do not work

It's like watching a fly die after spraying it a huge amount of buzzing then all is quiet as like Thai tourism drops to the floor never to be revived with oxygen or ASQ ???? 

I'm not sure what's worse. Xenophobic Thais who attack farang in spite of the fact that their economy is nothing without us, or farang who address other farang with the same disdain, apparently fooled into thinking they're any better.

2 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

Easy peasy, right!

Just walk into one of the many free education- companies and start learning!

Nothing could be easier!

Yes it is that easy is it not .. Then after you now have your new skill, its even easier to find that well paying job with good prospects .... After all .. lots of jobs everywhere .....

 

Time to take my medication ...

6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

It has already collapsed, and it started long before covid19. 

Agree, I left Pattaya in March,been there over 5 years, I could see the decline more so in the high season. Tourists who normally come for 2/3 months year on year were only stopping for a month mainly down to the strength of the baht.

2 minutes ago, ifeelitall said:

I'm not sure what's worse. Xenophobic Thais who attack farang in spite of the fact that their economy is nothing without us, or farang who address other farang with the same disdain, apparently fooled into thinking they're any better.

I don't know what's worse, farangs who think that the whole Thai economy revolves around their arrogant heads, or Thais who don't give a monkeys toss about farangs, or anything outside their own little world.  Actually I do, its the arrogant farangs. 

16 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Submarine Tourism 

Tourists could take the Yellow Submarine to look at the reefs around Phuket some time back. The tsunami on Boxing day 2004 ended that !

https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3088992/chinas-tourism-sector-was-already-death-spiral-and-now-beijing

 

China's tourism was also dying and still is, so why should Thailands be any different 

same in spain all doom and gloom

 

Spain warning: Costa del Sol and Benidorm remain ‘empty’ as hotels face possible closure

SPAIN holidays in the Costa del Sol and Benidorm could be completely off limits in the future, with the regions facing possible hotel closures and a collapse in overnight stays.

By Millie Bull

 

https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1327865/Spain-holidays-2020-flights-hotels-closed-quarantine-travel-ban-Benidorm-costa-del-sol

6 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

I don't know what's worse, farangs who think that the whole Thai economy revolves around their arrogant heads, or Thais who don't give a monkeys toss about farangs, or anything outside their own little world.  Actually I do, its the arrogant farangs. 

Some expats have deluded themselves into thinking that if there were no expats in Thailand the whole economy would collapse, when in fact they're a very small part of the economy.

Let any business can't promptly adapt to new environment be closed naturally. Same goes for all types of businesses around the world.

7 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

I don't know what's worse, farangs who think that the whole Thai economy revolves around their arrogant heads, or Thais who don't give a monkeys toss about farangs, or anything outside their own little world.  Actually I do, its the arrogant farangs. 

You should look at european countries who have a large % of GDP with tourism, they are struggling even with limited numbers coming in, but at least they are open. Thailands tourism was at 21.6% of GDP in 2018 and now they are zero foreign tourists coming in. You can't fix a hole like that without massive unemployment and businesses going bust.

 

https://knoema.com/atlas/Thailand/topics/Tourism/Travel-and-Tourism-Total-Contribution-to-GDP/Contribution-of-travel-and-tourism-to-GDP-percent-of-GDP

6 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Some expats have deluded themselves into thinking that if there were no expats in Thailand the whole economy would collapse, when in fact they're a very small part of the economy.

40 mln tourists a year x 1000 usd each (on average) = 40 000 000 000 usd in revenues. A big chunk of the economy, actually.

They should try and get as many back as possible ... Re-instate visa free arrival - Give 90 days visa and slap on the 14 days lock up ..  Getting the C-19 insurance is not that expensive .. 

 

That would test the waters .....

9 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

same in spain all doom and gloom

 

Spain warning: Costa del Sol and Benidorm remain ‘empty’ as hotels face possible closure

SPAIN holidays in the Costa del Sol and Benidorm could be completely off limits in the future, with the regions facing possible hotel closures and a collapse in overnight stays.

By Millie Bull

 

https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1327865/Spain-holidays-2020-flights-hotels-closed-quarantine-travel-ban-Benidorm-costa-del-sol

The bars that the Spanish use like the tapas restaurants are busy, but where the British and German tourists went are mostly closed due to no tourists or Spanish rules that have closed them. Spain are in a big hole right now and they % of tourism GDP is lower than Thailands.

5 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

It really is a catch 22. I think the Thais are realizing that the GDP was grossly understated when it comes to how much tourists actually do for the economy. Wake up call!

Yes, I remember before Covid that people in high positions were rabbitting on about how little tourism contributed to the economy.

 

From memory, I think it was when they started making it difficult for people to get visas/extensions, and they were saying that if the tourist trade went downhill because of it, it wouldn't make much difference as tourism contributed so little to the economy - oh yeah? 

6 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

No it won't totally collapse, same as airlines, the planes will be just bought by companies that know how to run a business.

 

Some will benefit from this "cleanup". Time to reposition yourself if you work in tourism. 

And where do you run the business?

Borders Closed.

Planes don't run on fresh air. 

Even if you got them for free.

Qantas has just parked it's international fleet in the Mojave desert for 3 years.

At present you can't even sell somtam at 50 baht here.

but will spanish property prices plunge ??

4 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

40 mln tourists a year x 1000 usd each (on average) = 40 000 000 000 usd in revenues. A big chunk of the economy, actually.

I said EXPATS, not tourists. (The other poster had mentioned expats, people who live in Thailand full time).

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2 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

They should try and get as many back as possible ... Re-instate visa free arrival - Give 90 days visa and slap on the 14 days lock up ..  Getting the C-19 insurance is not that expensive .. 

 

That would test the waters .....

 The problem is nobody in the Thai government will take a responsibility to open the borders at the moment. They have Zero covid cases , they are the winners, they are clean, they are number one mask-wearers in the world... Who will dare to spoil this parade of idiocy? 

What a stupid article. It has already collapsed, it's time to think about rebuilding it

2 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

 The problem is nobody in the Thai government will take a responsibility to open the borders at the moment. They have Zero covid cases , they are the winners, they are clean, they are number one mask-wearers in the world... Who will dare to spoil this parade of idiocy? 

Its because they lie, and thats why they are so scared to open. They have no clue in reality to the extent of infections be it an asymptomatic case or a minor virus case like what people mainly get.

4 hours ago, petermik said:

When it starts to hit them in their pockets Thailand begins to wake up....

When goverment paid workers get cut salaries and loss of jobs THEN it will really hit the fan...

6 hours ago, webfact said:

If they give plans that include 14 day quarantine and one mile radius restrictions the thumbs down, then the industry could be doomed. 

Don't worry. The missing tourists will do that.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He is a proponent of the Phuket Model. He said that even if the scheme attracts only 100,000 foreign tourists a month that would be an important start.

 I wish them all the luck in the world, sincerely, but who would be wanting to go on holidays out of their country at the moment with Covid, we are doing it domestically, but if we had the chance to go internationally we wouldn't even consider it, albeit it we have done it annually prior to Covid, the 14 day quarantine isn't an issue, if we were going long term, but most people only go to Phuket for 2 weeks, and that means their time would consumed in quarantined, a major flop IMO.

 

The above said, there are a lot of people out of work at the moment around the globe and those continuing to make a buck are holding tight, I would think because there is basically no job security at the moment and they have to pay mortgages/rent, car payments, credit cards etc etc etc.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that 4 million people in the sector are already out of work. That could soon be ten million. 

truth is that there are many infected and sick thai people.

truth is that the only way to live with this virus is the swedish way: to keep

all open, suffer some casualties and build herd immunity.

truth is that many more thai people will die from poverty and starvation, if the

country will remain closed.

6 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

Care to explain how - in the current situation - millions who are working in tourism or in fields, profitting from tourism, should "reposition" themselves?

he is just another nasty unsensitive farang who cannot see beyond his belly.

if you live in thailand long term or were frequent visitor, the least you can do

is show some support and sympathy for the enormous suffering of thai people.

i am sure that many people have dies and will die as a result of this situation.

the government can only help that much.

and every week it continues it only gets worse.

so shut that silly smiles and show some sympathy.

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 I wish them all the luck in the world, sincerely, but who would be wanting to go on holidays out of their country at the moment with Covid, we are doing it domestically, but if we had the chance to go internationally we wouldn't even consider it, albeit it we have done it annually prior to Covid, the 14 day quarantine isn't an issue, if we were going long term, bt most people only go to Phuket for 2 weeks.

 

The above said, there are a lot of people out of work at the moment and those continuing to make a buck are holding tight, I would think because there is basically no job security at the moment.

I've had 3 flights in the last 8 days, perfectly fine, everyone had a mask on. London to Athens to Dortmund to London, I didn't think about the virus once, I was drinking beer and looking at the lovely ladies, plus sightseeing and taking photos. The reality is the world is no more dangerous out there, the risks of getting covid are the same as getting flu.

38 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

I don't know what's worse, farangs who think that the whole Thai economy revolves around their arrogant heads, or Thais who don't give a monkeys toss about farangs, or anything outside their own little world.  Actually I do, its the arrogant farangs. 

Nah it's Thais who think everything revolves around 'their own little world'   or maybe Falang who can't even see that are worse !

All the lies in the world doesn't change the fact that the tourism industry in thailand is their main industry. That might make a few products for foreign companies here and there but tourism is their lot. Thais dont like to admit it though...

 

I would fly out today if they'd let me but I'm not sitting in quarantine for 15 days and I wont sign up to go to the square mile rip off zone they have planned for Phuket.... imagine the predation on tourists there...

 

Only a fool would go under those circumstances.