It's Getting Worse...More Shops Closing Down

[jacko45k]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Back when I was doing visa runs to Cambodia from the Queen Vic I used to eat the included breakfast there. Not bad at all. Be a shame if that venue had to close.

I did that myself a few times, although there were some frightening ghouls hanging about nearby  so very very early in the morning.....

[4reaL]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 They obviously just liked a bit of ultra violence for whatever reason.

 

 

 

And perhaps a bit of the old 'in out in out'

 

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

4 minutes ago, polpott said:

True and what a great facility that is. Love the way the cars are automatically delivered to their parking spaces. Very 21st century, definitely not 90s.

 

 

Yes the high-tech parking garage goes very well with the crumbling piers and derelict Pattaya One tower.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Pattaya Spotter said:

Yes the high-tech parking garage goes very well with the crumbling piers and derelict Pattaya One tower.

Do you remember how many years it didn't work and was unused for?

[Pattaya Spotter]

37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I only saw one that was on Buakhao not far from where I used to live, but last time I was there I'm pretty sure it had been sold and the ladyboys were nearer to LK but their bar was not called Pook.

They've always had a Pook ladyboy bar on Soi 6 as well (which is still up and running even now). The long-running  Bua Khow locations closed up a few years ago and converted to a resto/guesthouse, which I don't think was ever very successful. I believe it may be closed because of Covid now. The other ladyboy bars nearby are Fantasy Lounge and Nid-Cha directly opposite the entry to Soi LK Metro. 

[polpott]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you remember how many years it didn't work and was unused for?

One.

[Pattaya Spotter]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you remember how many years it didn't work and was unused for?

Many...but still an impressive landmark in Pattaya. The first automated (inoperative) parking garage in town ????????????

[redwood1]

13 minutes ago, polpott said:

True and what a great facility that is. Love the way the cars are automatically delivered to their parking spaces. Very 21st century, definitely not 90s.

 

 

I don't care if it is the most fantastic car park in the world....It was built on Pattayas ONE AND ONLY convenient park.....This was criminal....A very nasty nasty thing to do...... 

Edited October 30, 2020 by redwood1

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They've always had a Pook ladyboy bar on Soi 6 as well (which is still up and running even now). The long-running  Bua Khow locations closed up a few years ago and converted to a resto/guesthouse, which I don't think was ever very successful. I believe it may be closed because of Covid now. The other ladyboy bars nearby are Fantasy Lounge and Nid-Cha directly opposite the entry to Soi LK Metro. 

Thanks for that. I never noticed the name in Soi 6. I was more interested in the cute ( real ) girls, though I didn't like the way it operated with them all outside so never partook there. I used the dentist nearby on Second Rd so used it as a thoroughfare  to Beach Rd after.

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 minute ago, redwood1 said:

I don't care if it is the most fantastic car park in the world....It was built on Pattayas ONE AND ONLY convenient park.....This was criminal....A very nasty nasty thing to do...... 

Yes I'm pretty sure the bribes and kickbacks paid to construct an expensive overly complicated automated parking garage were criminal.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Many...but still an impressive landmark in Pattaya. The first automated (inoperative) parking garage in town ????????????

I'll believe your "many" as opposed to "one".

[polpott]

28 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

I don't care if it is the most fantastic car park in the world....It was built on Pattayas ONE AND ONLY convenient park.....This was criminal....A very nasty nasty thing to do...... 

How about the park behind the fish market in Naklua? Decent.

 

We are talking about tourists in this thread. How many tourists went to the park at Bali Hi?

[johng]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Here's a question. Are those areas between the front of the doors and the curb part of the privately owned building or are they encroached pavements?

They certainly expanded the "shop fronts"  about a cars width  right up to the gutters.

some photos from 2003

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, johng said:

They certainly expanded the "shop fronts"  about a cars width  right up to the gutters.

some photos from 2003

 

 

Thanks, but I want to know if the area between the gutter and the building is public or private land. I reckon it's public land as the building upper level doesn't extend over that area like it does in old Singapore.

IMO it's encroached public land.

In the lower photo the ground has been sealed like the road. The council wouldn't seal private land.

Edited October 30, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thanks, but I want to know if the area between the gutter and the building is public or private land. I reckon it's public land as the building upper level doesn't extend over that area like it does in old Singapore.

IMO it's encroached public land.

Believe it or not...the PARKING space in the roads in front of businesses is public and available for anyone to use; but you'd never know this from all the signs and placeholders around town. 

[AlfHuy]

On 9/25/2020 at 3:46 PM, jacko45k said:

OK, include Beemers... 7 series only.

I never had a problem to use the Valet service to park my BMW (special edition) in the VIP area at Icon Siam.

[ThaidDown]

52 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thanks, but I want to know if the area between the gutter and the building is public or private land. I reckon it's public land as the building upper level doesn't extend over that area like it does in old Singapore.

IMO it's encroached public land.

In the lower photo the ground has been sealed like the road. The council wouldn't seal private land.

It depends on what is shown on the Chanote .

Wife has one shop which has a 2.5m space between shop and road. Chanote shows that 1.5m is hers and 1.0m is a public pavement (sidewalk). Therefore she can legally put items on the 1.5m that is hers.

 

[Wongkitlo]

2 hours ago, polpott said:

How about the park behind the fish market in Naklua? Decent.

 

We are talking about tourists in this thread. How many tourists went to the park at Bali Hi?

They want to build a car park there too. I feel sorry for Thai kids. No wonder they are so fat with no places to play. They may get nice car parks but will pay for it later controlling a diabetes and weight related epidemic.

[polpott]

27 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

They want to build a car park there too. I feel sorry for Thai kids. No wonder they are so fat with no places to play. They may get nice car parks but will pay for it later controlling a diabetes and weight related epidemic.

In progress. Doesn't look like it will impinge on the park much. May be an asset as parking was always a pain there.

 

Big childrens play area and Takraw arena. The food couldn't be more healthy. Fresh cooked seafood.

Edited October 30, 2020 by polpott

[peeglen]

1 hour ago, AlfHuy said:

I never had a problem to use the Valet service to park my BMW (special edition) in the VIP area at Icon Siam.

Pope mobile?

[Wongkitlo]

14 minutes ago, polpott said:

In progress. Doesn't look like it will impinge on the park much. May be an asset as parking was always a pain there.

 

Big childrens play area and Takraw arena. The food couldn't be more healthy. Fresh cooked seafood.

I understood it is in the section furthest from the market with the palm trees and  near the children's play area. It is sad they need to dig that up. In the Soi at right angles where the 7/11 Is, there is a large area with a stinking rubbish dump there. To me, more enlightened town planners would put a multi story car park on the dump and have a pedestrian mall going down past the 7/ 11 and turn the car park at the seafood market into an extension of the market.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

I understood it is in the section furthest from the market with the palm trees and  near the children's play area. It is sad they need to dig that up. In the Soi at right angles where the 7/11 Is, there is a large area with a stinking rubbish dump there. To me, more enlightened town planners would put a multi story car park on the dump and have a pedestrian mall going down past the 7/ 11 and turn the car park at the seafood market into an extension of the market.

That would require

1/ that they cared about people more than cars

2/ that they even thought about it

3/ if there was anything in it for them

[Leaver]

On 10/29/2020 at 12:36 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

Re-read the caption...both indestructible the Queen and The Queen Victoria ????

Whatever happened to The Queen Vic's license issue?  Anyone know?  

[scubascuba3]

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Whatever happened to The Queen Vic's license issue?  Anyone know?  

I heard they had to pay 1m baht, no idea if true

[Leaver]

23 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I heard they had to pay 1m baht, no idea if true

Got to sell a lot of beer and food to make that up.  

[Leaver]

On 10/30/2020 at 9:41 AM, ThaidDown said:

It depends on what is shown on the Chanote .

Wife has one shop which has a 2.5m space between shop and road. Chanote shows that 1.5m is hers and 1.0m is a public pavement (sidewalk). Therefore she can legally put items on the 1.5m that is hers.

 

What if her shop is 1.5m too far forward to the street?  ????

[Pattaya Spotter]

The Covid decimation of Pattaya retail and restaurants continues unabated...with many central Pattaya City streets deserted and empty. It is now spreading to the malls. During my walkabout and meal at Terminal 21 today, I'd estimate an overall vacancy rate of 15-20 percent, and up to 50-60% for the small independent shops and food outlets. The formidable Minor Group and its restaurants seem to have abandoned the mall entirely (at least for the duration) with the DQ, Swensen's, and Pizza Company outlets closed. They have left the T21 branch of the Coffee Club open (at least for now).

 

Swensen's Ice Cream closed

 

Pizza Company closed

 

Dairy Queen closed

 

Kinkao Thai closed

Edited January 24, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter

[redwood1]

Terminal 21 is not  a locals and expat mall like Big C Extra........Terminal 21 needs tourist and lots of them....

 

If it was not for their cheap food court things would be worse...

Edited January 24, 2021 by redwood1

[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The Covid decimation of Pattaya retail and restaurants continues unabated..

I was at the Big-CX Mall yesterday and it is quiet, but ticking over. You still have to Q at the checkouts! Seems like this is where a lot of the Expats do their weekly. Redwood above me makes that valid point, and the reality that T21 was aimed ONLY at tourists, visitors, I might even be tempted to say Asians. 

 

Love the fact I can get to the Mall and park my truck these days!

[redwood1]

I will also add when Dairy Queen closes down the sky really is falling ...That's a horrible sign....Dairy Queens has almost zero food prep...Almost zero food spoilage.....Takes up very little space...And you can bet they pay rock bottom wages to their employees...And Dairy Queen prices are dirt cheap, and its highly popular....

 

So if Dairy Queen closes there is really no hope at all for any other restaurant in Terminal 21 except the food court.... 

Edited January 25, 2021 by redwood1