What happened to the forum?

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Awe King for life Xi of China must be the new driver of the ship, and this is just the start of his steel curtain movements.  Kind of fancy logo though.  Since I had to re-log in I wonder how the security is for the server, I do see the lock at the top next to the URL.  I do wonder where the servers are kept and operated from.

Doing a traceroute to the aseanow.com URL on my computer leads me believe that it is now hosted in Thailand (or somewhere quite close).  Traceroute output:

 

5  171-102-247-191.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.247.191)  13.419 ms  12.084 ms  12.083 ms

6  171-102-247-190.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.247.190)  12.782 ms

    171-102-248-4.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.248.4)  12.862 ms

    171-102-247-250.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.247.250)  12.940 ms

7  171-102-250-1.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.250.1)  13.842 ms  13.664 ms  13.864 ms

8  171-102-250-129.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.250.129)  12.728 ms  12.519 ms

    171-102-250-131.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.250.131)  12.355 ms

9  171-102-254-41.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.254.41)  12.361 ms

    171-102-252-34.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.252.34)  11.952 ms

    171-102-254-9.static.asianet.co.th (171.102.254.9)  12.508 ms

10  tig-net247-154.trueintergateway.com (113.21.247.154)  12.536 ms

    tig-net246-212.trueintergateway.com (113.21.246.212)  12.026 ms

    tig-net246-208.trueintergateway.com (113.21.246.208)  12.302 ms

11  tig-net245-111.trueintergateway.com (113.21.245.111)  13.179 ms  12.890 ms  12.970 ms

12  104.26.6.213 (104.26.6.213)  12.237 ms  11.973 ms  11.735 ms

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by gamb00ler

[misterjames]

4 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Doing a traceroute to the aseanow.com URL on my computer leads me believe that it is now hosted in Thailand (or somewhere quite close).  Traceroute output:

 

It's aseannow.com you missed an n besides it doesn't matter where the server is located if it's owned by a Chinese company they have to comply with any requests for data from Beijing.

[gamb00ler]

2 minutes ago, misterjames said:

It's aseannow.com you missed an n besides it doesn't matter where the server is located if it's owned by a Chinese company they have to comply with any requests for data from Beijing.

My traceroute command was correct but my post was not.

[OJAS]

Presumably I'm now going to have to completely resave my multitude of Chrome links since automatic redirection from the old Thaivisa site isn't likely to continue forever, of course. Grrrrr!!

[faraday]

1 hour ago, merijn said:

Can’t open the new site correctly anymore? 
Get the strange basic layout which doesn’t make sense.

It's all in Chinese mate, you need to use Translate.

 

*Laughing emoji*

 

[NE1]

Can we now quote Bangkok post stuff on here ?

[ubonjoe]

58 minutes ago, NE1 said:

Can we now quote Bangkok post stuff on here ?

No

No change has been made to the forum rules.

"26) The Bangkok Post and Phuketwan do not allow quotes from their news articles or other material to appear on ASEANNOW.com. Neither do they allow links to their publications. Posts from members containing quotes from or links to Bangkok Post or Phuketwan publications will be deleted from the forum."

[NCC1701A]

"Wow! The website's new font looks so bad maybe we should add a button to put it back to the way it was."

"OK. I'm going to lunch now."

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by NCC1701A

[NCC1701A]

if the servers are based in Hong Kong we will soon know:

 

"The death toll from the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre was at least 10,000 people, killed by a Chinese army unit whose troops were likened to “primitives”, a secret British diplomatic cable alleged."

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tiananmen-square-massacre-death-toll-secret-cable-british-ambassador-1989-alan-donald-a8126461.html

 

"Can you name the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century? No, it wasn’t Hitler or Stalin. It was Mao Zedong."

 

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder

[bedbugy]

no newsletter in my email

[NE1]

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I found it easier to read by changing theme bottom of screen next to Contact Us from theme AN-20210521 to Theme Copy of TV 20210323-4-5 

I used that , and now the option has been removed and reverted back to the " hard to see " font. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by NE1

[WineOh]

 

Now I have had some time to digest this new site I have a few questions I would like to ask.

 

1. Now that the site is seemingly registered outside of Thailand, does that mean that 'Thai law' no longer applies to it and we no longer have to self censor our posts?

(this was answered by CharlieH but posed more questions after the fact. ***Forum rules still apply, no changes other than the name ,as already posted. ** below was my response that still needs answering)...

***Ok, so by this definition ASEAN now will act differently on different sections of the site?

As some countries in ASEAN respect free speech (Japan, Singapore & South Korea for example), will more open discussion be permitted in those sections of the site where free speech is condoned? or does everything still come under the umbrella of Thai law, regardless of where you are posting from?

Confusing to say the least!

2. Will our data be shared with 3rd parties overseas, and if so will we be notified of this, if and when it occurs?

3. Has the site been sold by the previous owners? and if so, who is the new benefactor?
4. Will there be any updates to the forum rules and regulations going forward?

5. Will there be any changes to the way the site is moderated?

 

(btw, I like the new color code, much better than the previous one!).

 

Thank you!

 

Thaivisa member.

Edited July 2, 2021 by WineOh

[KannikaP]

12 minutes ago, NE1 said:

I used that , and now the option has been removed and reverted back to the " hard to see " font. 

Same here for me. Useless.

[ChipButty]

2 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Same here for me. Useless.

It's just happened to me 

[KhunBENQ]

4 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Font looks too small and light

First thing I did after fixing my bookmarks was forcing readable fonts/sizes.

As I don't pay for this it's up to you what name you give.

At least no (new) problem found so far. My favorite old style emoticons are still broken.

So nothing to get adapted too.

 

Throwing away a brand name like this?

All the haters have to get used too.

(I have not opened Twitter yet)

Who cares about my opinion?

Who knows Mondelez? (27 billion USD)

Silly marketing past time to find new names.

Car names like "Ka" to not bother in any language...

Edited July 2, 2021 by KhunBENQ

[NCC1701A]

33 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

"Wow! The website's new font looks so bad maybe we should add a button to put it back to the way it was."

"OK. I'm going to lunch now."

 

 

"Hey that NCC1701A guy made a joke about our button!"

"We will show him. Remove the button and make the font even thinner." 

[KhunBENQ]

1 minute ago, NCC1701A said:

make the font even thinner

No 1 search on Google from Thailand: force proper font for website

[Mavideol]

5 hours ago, misterjames said:

Well usernames along with our account data / posts could be linked to an individual via Chinese immigration for example.

 

I am not planning to visit Hong Kong or China, but I think the users that are should be aware and decide if they want to continue to participate or not.

Thailand is following China tracking ideology....., it all started with the idea of bracelet/tracking devices assumed to be used for Covid....an excuse like any other to cover/divert from the real intentions

[merijn]

Please make the website working on a pc!!!!!!!

I only get the basic non working site layout.

[WineOh]

8 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

if its not Thai Visa anymore can we still complain about everything that happens in Thailand?

I want answers to this question.

 

If this website is no longer hosted inside Thailand then why does it have to comply with Thai law??

 

The Daily Mail (horrible rag that it is) isn't based in Thailand, and therefore does not have to comply with Thai law.

Same goes for any news site and forum that isn't operating out of LOS.

 

Tessanet Limited is clearly based in Hong Kong, and therefore seemingly HK rules only need apply.

 

Any clarification would be appreciated.

Edited July 2, 2021 by WineOh

[NCC1701A]

Dear Lord, please don't let the commie's buy Thai Friendly. 

[chalawaan]

My pixelbook automatically renders all sites, including this one, in dark mode.

 

I dont care what optomitrists say, my eyes hurt less using dark mode (I do have early cataracts tho).

 

And it is also a huge battery saver on a phone.

 

So my question is, how to set the site settings themselves to dark mode?

 

 

[Kinnock]

Is the new font in superfine pale grey intended to censor the complaints.  If we can read the negative posts,  they don't exist.

[WineOh]

4 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

Dear Lord, please don't let the commie's buy Thai Friendly. 

you not into ladies in red mate??

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, WineOh said:

I want answers to this question.

 

If this website is no longer hosted inside Thailand then why does it have to comply with Thai law??

 

The Daily Mail (horrible rag that it is) isn't based in Thailand, and therefore does not have to comply with Thai law.

Same goes for any news site and forum that isn't operating out of LOS.

 

Tessanet Limited is clearly based in Hong Kong, and therefore seemingly HK rules only need apply.

 

Any clarification would be appreciated.

 

  Taking into consideration that the Thai authorities can block this website from access from within Thailand , I do feel that its in everyones interests to abide by Thai law

[WineOh]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

  Taking into consideration that the Thai authorities can block this website from access from within Thailand , I do feel that its in everyones interests to abide by Thai law

ever heard of a VPN?

 

Do you abide by Thai law when commenting on news articles elsewhere?

 

Ridiculous thing to say!

Edited July 2, 2021 by WineOh

[Salerno]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Taking into consideration that the Thai authorities can block this website from access from within Thailand , I do feel that its in everyones interests to abide by Thai law

 

Just now, WineOh said:

Ridiculous thing to say!

 

Not that ridiculous if you also care about others. The site owner and LOS based mods could get in the proverbial for what BMs post.

[chalawaan]

Setting up ANY company in Hong Kong, much less a media outlet for all of ASEAN, in 2021 is asking for a world of hurt, did we not just read about the fate of Hong Kong free-press newspaper Apple Daily?

 

I guess the upper management are cool with the cowed ASEAN way going forward?

 

What are they thinking?

 

Also, as the old TVN mods are based in Thailand, of course the government will arrest them under 112 for anything anyone says on here. 

 

One could probably go to the Phillippine site to complain about the unmentionable in LoS, but just don't expect the local users to be very happy at the incursion.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by chalawaan

[WineOh]

3 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Not that ridiculous if you also care about others. The site owner and LOS based mods could get in the proverbial for what BMs post.

Free speech trumps all!

 

Our ancestors fought & died in two world wars so we could say that with pride.

Never forget that!

Edited July 2, 2021 by WineOh

[lopburi3]

4 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

My pixelbook automatically renders all sites, including this one, in dark mode.

 

I dont care what optomitrists say, my eyes hurt less using dark mode (I do have early cataracts tho).

 

And it is also a huge battery saver on a phone.

 

So my question is, how to set the site settings themselves to dark mode?

 

 

It is all or nothing in Windows10 AFAIK - and I have had to use dark mode/high contrast since they updated software months ago.  Have text in yellow on black background and much easier to read without being blinded by white light.  But have to revert to normal mode for some websites (but easy using ALT/Shift/Print screen keys).  Don't use smart phone so can not advise how to do on them.