2 hours ago, smedly said:

big difference between here and the UK - do you know what it is ?

Yes, 3x the current reported daily infections and 48x the total number of reported deaths.

Now this virus case uptick here has hit the international news and a story on the proposed reopening of the country casts doubt upon it actually occurring.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/thailands-plans-fully-open-doubt-060941282.html

2 hours ago, smedly said:

seriously dude - stop comparing Thailand and the UK - they are now completely different animals 

My name is not dude..... who still talks like that?

Of course they are different.... Thailand is like the UK was some months ago but not as serious, perhaps Dec/Jan and comparisons have value.... 

12 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Before you head back and I guess you're currently in BKK, why don't you try Phyathai2 hospital direct booking from Monday.
https://phyathai2international.com

Will do.

That link shows very simple process. The next bookings will be open from Monday. Will give it a go and report my experience.

Just now, jacko45k said:

Yes, 3x the current reported daily infections and 48x the total number of reported deaths.

We all know the huge death numbers in the UK are now considered to be historical and reported daily infections correlate directly with testing numbers. Delta is well on the move in the UK and is about to go through the roof. Hospitalisations for now are low as are deaths due to the high vaccination rate. The interesting thing is will it stay this way.

51 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm a foreigner and also a senior. Where do I queue for jab donated by Japan

If your 75+ Oz Embassy is compiling a list to submit to Thai Gov to assist enabling vax. Details in Ambassadors latest video fb message.

14 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Before you head back and I guess you're currently in BKK, why don't you try Phyathai2 hospital direct booking from Monday.
https://phyathai2international.com

Going to be interesting to see what happens at 9:00am Monday morning, I think we should all be prepared to see that website crash around 9:30am.

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

If your 75+ Oz Embassy is compiling a list to submit to Thai Gov to assist enabling vax. Details in Ambassadors latest video fb message.

I'm 74 next month, so I'll dip out....there's the story of my life right there. ????

21 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The current level of deaths reflect the case counts of 2 to 3 weeks ago. So maybe 3 to 4 thousand cases a day.

 

in 2 to 3 weeks time, the deaths per day will reflect the current 9k cases per day. So over the course of the next 2 to 3 weeks, simple math suggests deaths will at least double, possibly triple. And if hospitals are overwhelmed and unable to provide medical care to the sick, there is a possibility deaths may be higher still.

Todays number of deaths reflects about 1% of total cases so 2-3 weeks ago there would have been about 9,000 cases a day.If a trend of this nature continues would it indicate the numbers are being incorrectly reported?

4 minutes ago, Olmate said:

If your 75+ Oz Embassy is compiling a list to submit to Thai Gov to assist enabling vax. Details in Ambassadors latest video fb message.

Thanks for that info..

Long way from 75 so cuts me out.

In any event (just my opinion) but anything from the Oz ambassador would be PR stunt. All show no go.

2 minutes ago, grain said:

Going to be interesting to see what happens at 9:00am Monday morning, I think we should all be prepared to see that website crash around 9:30am.

One of the many problems with these kind of Thai government arranged vaccine programs is they and the involved hospitals almost never publicly disclose how many people / doses they'll be able to handle for any given opening.

 

So the typical experience thus far has been either...

--the registrations are closed/ended within minutes of opening and/or

--the registration system has technical problems that leads to it being overwhelmed and/or crashing.

 

Hopefully Phyathai II on Monday will be a better experience and opportunity for expats who have been unable thus far to arrange vaccinations. But the recent track record isn't promising.

 

 

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Thanks for that info..

Long way from 75 so cuts me out.

In any event (just my opinion) but anything from the Oz ambassador would be PR stunt. All show no go.

Putting on a bit of a cunning stunt is he? 

Just now, FarFlungFalang said:

Putting on a bit of a cunning stunt is he? 

Trying to rearrange your letters. Is one stunning? 

Grounded by a pandemic

 

The latest photos of a forlorn Don Mueang airport in Bangkok are a painful reminder that Thailand’s tourism and economy are in a worrying state.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003059

 

19 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Now this virus case uptick here has hit the international news and a story on the proposed reopening of the country casts doubt upon it actually occurring.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/thailands-plans-fully-open-doubt-060941282.html

The exact same story and photo was on the bbc website yesterday. I think USA Today had something as well, but I didn’t read it.

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Trying to rearrange your letters. Is one stunning? 

I think you've been doing to many cryptic crosswords puzzles.

14 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes of course, although hospital admissions in UK are climbing.... back up to 500/day. Not out of the woods yet.

How serious are the admissions compared to before? Have the vaccinations done there bit in reducing seriousness and deaths? 

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Hopefully Phyathai II on Monday will be a better experience and opportunity for expats who have been unable thus far to arrange vaccinations. But the recent track record isn't promising

There in is the problem. Early doors I just sat back and watched all the crashes and cancellation of appointments. 

Then even with recent pay in advance Moderna that seemed to sell out very early. Only hour or 2 into opening.

I had always planned to wait a pay at private hospital. Was hoping for October. 

Feeling that's a dream now. 

 

Given that the majority of people in Thailand were vaccinated with Sinovac which is not effective against Delta and greater variants it seems like the bulk of the inoculation program needs to be started from scratch or a face saving "Top up" with a real vaccine like Pfizer. Given that the people running the show are not going to suddenly become wise and do the right thing I wonder if herd immunity is the only way out? However with all the variants I wonder if that is even possible?

Some off topic posts about India and the UK have been removed. 

Complete utter lies. There never has been or will ever be any vaccines for foreigners. The only sure way is to go home and get it done there.

even registration with private hospital for a jab is still in limbo, its only word of mouth, its more like October and beyond could be 2022, remember they only JUST order the vaccine, there are other country has order before them, Thai is in last of the line, we all know why.

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

There in is the problem. Early doors I just sat back and watched all the crashes and cancellation of appointments. 

Then even with recent pay in advance Moderna that seemed to sell out very early. Only hour or 2 into opening.

I had always planned to wait a pay at private hospital. Was hoping for October. 

Feeling that's a dream now. 

 

Meanwhile:

 

SCB has booked Moderna for each of their employees to use as 2nd or 3rd dose, expected in Q4.

 

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1413723356789018625

 

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/361221875496143/?type=3

 

 

Foreigners to Get Only 10% of U.S. Donated Pfizer Vaccine Doses

 

Foreigners are slated to receive only 10 percent of the 1.5 million Pfizer vaccine doses being donated by the United States to Thailand – half the amount previously reported in the Thai news media, according to a Thai government document released Friday.

 

The U.S. government and the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok have never commented on or confirmed the notion of a set-aside for the donated Pfizer doses. However, a senior Thai general involved in Thailand’s COVID fight was quoted in Thai news reports recently saying 20 percent or 300,000 of the doses would be set aside for foreigners.

 

That report, however, was contradicted by a Thai Ministry of Public Health vaccine rollout plan released Friday that said only 10 percent of the Pfizer doses (150,000) would be reserved for foreigners. Curiously, English language summaries of the government’s plan made no mention of the specific Pfizer percentage set-aside, but the original Thai MoPH document does.

 

According to the document, 1.35 million of the donated Pfizer doses will be set aside for Thai nationals, and only 150,000 for foreigners, enough for 75,000 people, under the vaccine's two-shot regimen. The top priority for the donated Pfizer doses will be to give a single third-shot booster to the nation's medical staff caring for COVID patients, along with elderly Thais and those with chronic medical conditions.

 

The same planned 10 percent vaccine set-aside for foreigners (105,000 doses, enough for 52,500 people) is supposed to apply to a separate donation of 1.05 million AstraZeneca vaccines doses being given by Japan. So together, the Thai government is proposing to set aside 255,000 doses for foreigners, enough for about 127,500 foreign nationals.

 

If the Thai MoPH follows through with the 10 percent plan, that means fewer of one of the most effective coronavirus vaccines available will be offered to foreigners in Thailand, who currently only have access to the Thai government provided AstraZeneca vaccine, which is somewhat less effective, and the government provided Chinese Sinovac vaccine, which is considered much less effective.

 

Since Thailand’s belated vaccines rollout began in early June, many foreigners have complained loudly about being unable to obtain vaccines because of often non-functional Thai government programs for them to register for and receive vaccines that are separate from the signup programs available to Thai nationals.

 

The Thai government has not released any recent statistics on the exact size of the current foreign nationals population in Thailand nor on how many of those have been able to be vaccinated. But the numbers also are low for Thai citizens, with only 12.2 percent of the Thai population having received a first shot thus far, and only 4.4 percent fully vaccinated.

 

The cynic in me says that only a token amount of the Pfizer vaccine will actually make its way into the arms of foreigners. Maybe just enough for a photoshoot.

 

the same cynic says that despite the clarification of the “misunderstanding”, Pfizer will be finding its way into the arms of MP’s and influential people.

 

 

Anyone else find it curious that the Thai government can tell you on a daily basis how many Thais have received COVID vaccines, how many in each province, how many of different target groups such as the elderly, medical workers, etc...

 

But.... since the beginning of COVID vaccines availability in Thailand, AFAIK, there has never been one shred of publicly reported information about how many non-border country foreign nationals have been vaccinated. Nothing. Ever.

 

Kind of makes you wonder, why we're one group they choose to never report vaccination statistics on.

 

Thus, no one, perhaps outside of the Thai government, has any idea how the current vaccination rates for Thais compares to that for non-Thais... and whether the government is in fact keeping its public promise (believable or not) of non-discrimination in its vaccinations program.

 

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand.

I believe the UK is already on Thailand’s red list. Certainly for sandbox purposes anyway.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Meanwhile:

 

SCB has booked Moderna for each of their employees to use as 2nd or 3rd dose, expected in Q4.

 

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1413723356789018625

 

My hope is that at some point private enterprise can be enabled to source supply of vaccines.

Doesn't mean gov authorization not required but just needs to be far more fluid and simplified. 

 

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Anyone else find it curious that the Thai government can tell you on a daily basis how many Thais have received COVID vaccines, how many in each province, how many of different target groups such as the elderly, medical workers, etc...

 

But.... since the beginning of COVID vaccines availability in Thailand, AFAIK, there has never been one shred of publicly reported information about how many non-border country foreign nationals have been vaccinated. Nothing. Ever.

 

Kind of makes you wonder, why we're one group they choose to never report vaccination statistics on.

 

Because there is nothing to report? 5555

 

just joking, I know some foreigners HAVE been vaccinated….. just mostly not the at risk ones.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=798164100843795&id=318991902094353

 

Waited too long for a hospital bed... 

 

Covid-19 -Just a reminder.

 

Three protests are taking place today.  The first one is scheduled to start around 1300 hrs around the Democracy Monument.

If you're in that area.....stay away from any group gatherings