webfact Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 By Adam Judd Chonburi, Thailand-The Chonburi Governor released several new orders this evening, July 12th, 2021, effective tomorrow, Tuesday, July 13th, 2021. The new orders enact a stay-at-home request during these hours, similar to Bangkok and other provinces (click here to read about that) however, unlike those provinces, it appears to be a REQUEST for cooperation and not a mandate, based on the orders so far released. However, see below. The order also closes the following between those hours: Closing from 9:00 PM to 4:00 AM are gas stations, restaurants, food carts of all types, department stores, retail, convenience stores like 7-11, all markets, massage shops, pools, water parks, game and internet cafes, amulet shops, beauty clinics, tattoo shops, and all prior closure orders like nightlife being closed period apply. Essentially, all businesses are ordered closed that are not essential services like hospitals or law enforcement. Mess halls/Canteens in hospitals may stay open during these hours, all others must close. As stated, this does include all street hawkers, stalls, food cart vendors, etc. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/12/chonburi-governor-releases-new-order-stay-at-home-request-for-cooperation-overnight-closure-of-many-businesses-overnight/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-07-13 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1
smedly Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 a curfew without it being an actual enforced curfew 1 1
Popular Post rodknock Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 12, 2021 how does someone get to a hospital if there are no taxi's, walk what happens if the hospital you call only has one ambulance and he is picking up someone with covid-19, if they will, do you want to get into it? 1 3
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, rodknock said: how does someone get to a hospital if there are no taxi's, walk what happens if the hospital you call only has one ambulance and he is picking up someone with covid-19, if they will, do you want to get into it? There is nothing in the order to say you cant call a taxi or they cant operate. I imagine ambulances would be following some sort of protocols if they carry coviid patients, cleaning, isolation etc 5
Danderman123 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 459 new cases in Chonburi today, so they have to do something. 2
Popular Post RayD Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 Einstein famously said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over again snd expecting a different result. Closing people's livelihood does NOTHING to stop the virus. If it was going to work, it would have worked already. 8 1
KhunBENQ Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: 459 new cases in Chonburi today, so they have to do something. And still no alarming situation in Pattaya. It's the unavoidable follow up to keep Bangkok tourist out. I am afraid more will follow. Fencing off the beach, no sitting at the promenade etc. All to shy visitors away. Same procedure as last year. See Einstein post above. 2
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, RayD said: Einstein famously said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over again snd expecting a different result. Closing people's livelihood does NOTHING to stop the virus. If it was going to work, it would have worked already. If you are saying that lockdowns don’t work, you would be wrong. if you are saying that half-assed attempts like this don’t actually stop the virus, that’s a different story. They need to stop all unnecessary traffic from Bangkok. 7
Popular Post bbko Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 Apparently this virus is contagious only at night. 4 3
brewsterbudgen Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: If you are saying that lockdowns don’t work, you would be wrong. if you are saying that half-assed attempts like this don’t actually stop the virus, that’s a different story. They need to stop all unnecessary traffic from Bangkok. That should already be happening, with effect from yesterday. Only "necessary" travel out of Bangkok is allowed. However, we're still waiting to see what is deemed as "necessary"! Many people do regular business between Bangkok and Chonburi/Pattaya/Rayong, and if people already have hotel reservations made for a holiday will this be allowed? Hopefully, reports will start coming in soon.
thailand49 Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 When there is a sense no one has a clue you move slowly cautiously and copy what others are doing then cross your finger. It is coming slowly but surely.
hotchilli Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, smedly said: a curfew without it being an actual enforced curfew Although they say it's a request the op photo makes it look more like .... To quote Clint Eastwood: "I know what you're thinking, punk"
RayD Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 52 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: If you are saying that lockdowns don’t work, you would be wrong. if you are saying that half-assed attempts like this don’t actually stop the virus, that’s a different story. They need to stop all unnecessary traffic from Bangkok. Depends what you mean by lockdown. Wuhan style, shut absolutely everyone in their home and poke sandwiches through the letterbox works. Anything else just slows the virus down a bit. Worth doing if you have an effective vaccine but otherwise it's just delaying the inevitable. 2
Danderman123 Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RayD said: Depends what you mean by lockdown. Wuhan style, shut absolutely everyone in their home and poke sandwiches through the letterbox works. Anything else just slows the virus down a bit. Worth doing if you have an effective vaccine but otherwise it's just delaying the inevitable. Or keeps the hospitals from being overwhelmed.
Popular Post James105 Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 Ah the go to strategy of reducing opening hours again. If you reduce the opening hours of somewhere like a 7/11 then all you do is ensure that more people will be in them at the same time. If the covid virus was in charge of making policy, this is definitely one that it would implement. 4
DefaultName Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 I'm going to have to go to my local restaurant tonight, the owner's reactions will be hilarious. I sympathise, this is lunacy that won't help stop Covid, but it will still be hilarious. ????
ncc1701d Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 Hospitals are already overwhelmed. My girlfriend got delta 5 days ago. I paid for her to go to a quarantine hotel. After the second day they asked if she could share her room with strangers. Normally I would do the right thing and ask her to agree. But there is a very good chance someone else in her family who are all at risk will also get it and then they would have nowhere to go. Apparently people with covid sleeping out on the streets around quarantine hotel. She only just got over the first covid 19. She says this one has different symptoms and is much worse than the original. It's all looking a bit grim. 1 5 2
Popular Post bradiston Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, ncc1701d said: Hospitals are already overwhelmed. My girlfriend got delta 5 days ago. I paid for her to go to a quarantine hotel. After the second day they asked if she could share her room with strangers. Normally I would do the right thing and ask her to agree. But there is a very good chance someone else in her family who are all at risk will also get it and then they would have nowhere to go. Apparently people with covid sleeping out on the streets around quarantine hotel. She only just got over the first covid 19. She says this one has different symptoms and is much worse than the original. It's all looking a bit grim. She caught it twice? 4
shackleton Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 Still won't stop people getting together and drinking Alcohol Expecting to read police arrest party goers in the coming days 1
Popular Post brucec64 Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 5 hours ago, RayD said: Einstein famously said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over again snd expecting a different result. Closing people's livelihood does NOTHING to stop the virus. If it was going to work, it would have worked already. Lokdowns were never meant to eliminate the virus, just reduce spread and take the load off then hospitals. This has been explained many, many times in the last 1.5 years. If you were going to, or able to understand this, you would have understood this already. 3 1
brucec64 Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 4 hours ago, bbko said: Apparently this virus is contagious only at night. Never takes long for this old chestnut to appear. It has appeared in every thread in every forum in the world discussing closure times for the pandemic, just in case you thought you were being original, or in any way adding to the conversation. 1 1
RayD Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 It is not a question of understanding, it's a question of belief. Where is the evidence that you can contract covid in the open air? There have been numerous rallies and protests arround the world and these have not lead to outbreaks. Lockdowns work. Randomly closing places is NOT a lockdown. 2
Popular Post nauseus Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, ncc1701d said: Hospitals are already overwhelmed. My girlfriend got delta 5 days ago. I paid for her to go to a quarantine hotel. After the second day they asked if she could share her room with strangers. Normally I would do the right thing and ask her to agree. But there is a very good chance someone else in her family who are all at risk will also get it and then they would have nowhere to go. Apparently people with covid sleeping out on the streets around quarantine hotel. She only just got over the first covid 19. She says this one has different symptoms and is much worse than the original. It's all looking a bit grim. Hoping she recovers soon and well. 3
nauseus Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 53 minutes ago, RayD said: It is not a question of understanding, it's a question of belief. Where is the evidence that you can contract covid in the open air? There have been numerous rallies and protests arround the world and these have not lead to outbreaks. Lockdowns work. Randomly closing places is NOT a lockdown. Evidence? Air? That's how most of it transmits. Yes, al fresco is much safer than indoors and confined areas but it is still possible for transmission outside, especially amid large crowds. 2
rott Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 So the bars that are opening illegally, will they close early? Or just business as usual.? Time will tell soon enough. A place that I was sure had been surreptitiously serving drink, declined my request for a glass of red with the spag bol last night. Bummer. I would have thought an empty Coke bottle next to the glass would have fooled the bobbies had they appeared. But it was not to be. 1
bradiston Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 8 hours ago, bradiston said: She caught it twice? And was asked to share a room with strangers, in quarantine? Are you out of your mind? 1
JensenZ Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 21 hours ago, smedly said: a curfew without it being an actual enforced curfew A virtual curfew. All they did was extend it by 2 hours.
Popular Post JensenZ Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 12 hours ago, RayD said: It is not a question of understanding, it's a question of belief. Where is the evidence that you can contract covid in the open air? There have been numerous rallies and protests arround the world and these have not lead to outbreaks. Lockdowns work. Randomly closing places is NOT a lockdown. Lockdowns don't work. Masks don't work. Nothing works. The evidence is overwhelming as we're 16 months on now and the situation is worse now than it was at the start. It certainly is no better. Sooner or later the world will need to accept that we need to live with covid as we've always had to live with influenza. Apart from the health impact of rendering a large percentage of the population destitute, begging for food, the impact of constantly breathing one's own CO2 in masks will cause a general deterioration of health. We used to breathe out to eliminate CO2 as a waste product of cellular metabolism, but now we are forced to rebreathe it. This will lower the oxygen content of our blood. I feel sorry for the people who need to work 8 - 12 hour shifts with masks on. 4 2
Popular Post JensenZ Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2021 14 hours ago, bradiston said: She caught it twice? I had weird flu-like symptoms twice last year, one month apart. I never had a flu quite like this. I suspect it was covid. It was the mildest flu I've ever had and totally gone in 3 days. Many people don't get symptoms at all. They should have protected the older population and let the rest of the population get on with the business of living. Most people are afraid to go to hospitals in case they catch it, so that's a huge negative impact on the population's health too. 3 1 1
MayBeNow Posted July 13, 2021 Posted July 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, JensenZ said: Lockdowns don't work. Masks don't work. Nothing works. The evidence is overwhelming as we're 16 months on now and the situation is worse now than it was at the start. It certainly is no better. Sooner or later the world will need to accept that we need to live with covid as we've always had to live with influenza. Apart from the health impact of rendering a large percentage of the population destitute, begging for food. What???? You think logical and use reason???? What is wrong with you? Why havent you conformed to 16 months of propaganda???? You know what is next right? Mob, i present you a denialist, silence him!!!! 1 1
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