Thailand reports daily record of coronavirus infections and deaths

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

If the hospital system can discharge 6500+ patients in a day, and admit an equivalent number of new patients + squeeze in 1,000 more, why should they limit testing to less than 7,500? I don’t understand your logic.

 

There won’t be severe constraints on hospital testing (beyond those already in place) until there is absolutely no more room for new patients.

I don't understand your logic, because each and every day there are more admissions then releases so each and every day there will be less people being able to be admitted. By your logic then tests should decrease on a daily base.

 

(only variable is the home isolations). But there is no denying that each and every day as long as there are less released then admitted the number of patients they can still admit will get less.

 

Its not just a matter of getting extra beds but to get extra doctors and equipment.  Its not like space is the limiting factor but the amount of nurses doctors and equipment. Also you can't increase the amount of Dr's and nurses all the time. Its easy to open up an new location put beds there. But to staff it is the problem.

 

Just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning that you dont seem to get but others do.

Edited July 17, 2021 by robblok

[wensiensheng]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Asked previously. Never really understood why do so many folk queue for Test. I assume it's free. 

Is it required for employment or.....??

Surely they are not all feeling off colour.

Worried that they might be positive and pass on to a family member. Although queuing so close together negates the whole purpose of the exercise.

[ABCbangkok]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Asked previously. Never really understood why do so many folk queue for Test. I assume it's free. 

Is it required for employment or.....??

Surely they are not all feeling off colour.

Could it be that they are worried and afraid? Just a guess.

[kiwikeith]

16 minutes ago, anchadian said:

There are now at least four embassies that were apparently given vaccination appointments on Sunday by the Thai government. Australia, America, Canada & New Zealand. Which begs the question, why just these citizens and not all foreigners based on their vulnerability? #Thailand

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1416225215776845830

 

Beats me, the Americans seemed to have a problem supplying vaccine to their own and the British as well.

Nz does not argue about vaccinating people stuck here , Thai or any one , but LOS can not seem to get it together, and now the temperature is going critical.

[ABCbangkok]

4 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 

"Thailand is also home to more than 200,000 foreigners—retirees, extended tourists, and workers from, for example, Europe, North America, and elsewhere.[21]"

 

Send the link. 

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, ABCbangkok said:

Could it be that they are worried and afraid? Just a guess.

I think worried and afraid would apply to a lot of us. 

So would you go and queue as per the many pictures of people doing that. Even overnight. Surely it's not down to just being concerned. 

Also those crowded queue areas would be last place that you would like to be.

[djayz]

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

a competent government

In a nutshell. Completely incompetent and only in office thanks to family and friends. 

[law ling]

Seems like quality vaccines, in any number, won't be here for a long while. So, what's Plan B?

 

1. Farm the discharged people's blood for their antibodies? Is this being done, and if not, why not.

 

2. Test for antibodies before vaxing, and only vax those without antibodies? Could make available vaxes go a bit further.

 

3. Supply the population with Vit C & D and zinc i.e. supplements that have shown to be useful.

 

4. Try out i.e. hand out now Ivermetcin, HCQ or even their local herb - anything that is showing promise.

 

Of course, the above are positive steps that need action and cost something ... as distinct from current measures (close this and shut down that) which cost no more than the paper they're written on, and a press release that can easily be sent out before lunch.

 

PS: I'm not a medical person. I may be shot down ... but it seems there is no alternative plan, other than just letting the thing run its course.

[ABCbangkok]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

I think worried and afraid would apply to a lot of us. 

So would you go and queue as per the many pictures of people doing that. Even overnight. Surely it's not down to just being concerned. 

Also those crowded queue areas would be last place that you would like to be.

Abductive reasoning (inference of the best explanation). You got something better? If they understood the risk then of course they wouldn’t go. Therefore, they don’t understand the risk.

[fredscats]

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

Very bad figures everywhere and getting worse by the day. You would think a competent government would be throwing every resource they had at getting vaccines in and administered, yet their performance on that front is appalling. God help us all, because aside from the French, our own countries are not going to it seems.

I have rang the Brit embassy who in turn went thru to London,  its up to others too to put pressure on our govt to help

[Macrohistory]

10 minutes ago, ABCbangkok said:

Send the link. 

 

????  It's in the same Wikipedia article that you claimed you had read:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand

 

 

[ikke1959]

Convenient to control the protests..

[dinsdale]

40 minutes ago, anchadian said:

There are now at least four embassies that were apparently given vaccination appointments on Sunday by the Thai government. Australia, America, Canada & New Zealand. Which begs the question, why just these citizens and not all foreigners based on their vulnerability? #Thailand

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1416225215776845830

 

I didn't see anything about Aus. Mind you i wasn't looking. Didn't expect it.

[Bkk Brian]

and thats the end of that.................

 

Feel sorry 4 Americans in #Thailand who couldn’t registered for #COVID19 vaccines provided by Thai govt for tom. Unspecified quota given to US Emb quickly taken. Well, most Thais r still waiting forlorn if that's any consolation.

 

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416234489865392128

 

[anchadian]

8 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Convenient to control the protests..

The Royal Gazette website announced a ban on public assembly in all provinces with immediate effect, under the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations, to prevent the spread of Covid-19. #COVID19 #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003357

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

The Royal Gazette website announced a ban on public assembly in all provinces with immediate effect, under the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations, to prevent the spread of Covid-19. #COVID19 #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003357

What exactly defines public assembly?

 

[anchadian]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

and thats the end of that.................

 

Feel sorry 4 Americans in #Thailand who couldn’t registered for #COVID19 vaccines provided by Thai govt for tom. Unspecified quota given to US Emb quickly taken. Well, most Thais r still waiting forlorn if that's any consolation.

 

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416234489865392128

 

Give Med Park hospital a try:
https://www.medparkhospital.com/en/page/covid19-vaccine-expats

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

What exactly defines public assembly?

 

A three ring circus and marching band, well maybe just protestors, or runners in the park where they can gather as a group for a group run, who the eF knows.

[Whale]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The situation is dire and rapidly degrading.

 

New highs with after the horse has bolted stricter measures being discussed. The awful death stats are now starting to filter through shooting into the 3 figure range. Previous measures have been a complete failure. The nonsense sprouted previously by officials of having this under control is hitting them squarely in the face but more importantly its everyone here in Thailand that is now further in danger from their mistakes.

 

10,082 positive cases today with 127 of those from prisons, 141 deaths

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 15th July only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

 

These two graphs do not correlate do they? One show a rapid spike and the other a levelling off over the last 9 days?? What am I reading wrong?

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Whale said:

 

These two graphs do not correlate do they? One show a rapid spike and the other a levelling off over the last 9 days?? What am I reading wrong?

Did you pick up the explanation in the post?

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 15th July only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Give Med Park hospital a try:
https://www.medparkhospital.com/en/page/covid19-vaccine-expats

 

 

Yes if you slept in or did not get the e-mail like I did not until just now this is what the link tells you

[wensiensheng]

27 minutes ago, law ling said:

Seems like quality vaccines, in any number, won't be here for a long while. So, what's Plan B?

 

1. Farm the discharged people's blood for their antibodies? Is this being done, and if not, why not.

 

2. Test for antibodies before vaxing, and only vax those without antibodies? Could make available vaxes go a bit further.

 

3. Supply the population with Vit C & D and zinc i.e. supplements that have shown to be useful.

 

4. Try out i.e. hand out now Ivermetcin, HCQ or even their local herb - anything that is showing promise.

 

Of course, the above are positive steps that need action and cost something ... as distinct from current measures (close this and shut down that) which cost no more than the paper they're written on, and a press release that can easily be sent out before lunch.

 

PS: I'm not a medical person. I may be shot down ... but it seems there is no alternative plan, other than just letting the thing run its course.

1. I believe it’s been researched early on in the pandemic and didn’t work.

2. It would take too much time to test and get results. We’re talking circa 50 million people.

3. You can provide the research to prove these supplements are an alternative to vaccines?

4. See three above, although, I know there is a lot of talk about Ivermectin but not yet proven to be beneficial beyond doubt I believe.

 

Plan B should be to do Plan A better, faster. What is happening now was baked in as a result of policy responses 3 months ago to the Thonglor outbreak. Anything done now impacts in 2/3 months time. Instead of band aid, knee jerk  policy responses there ought to be an overall strategy designed to get the country to a better place in 3-6 months time. That isn’t happening and so Mr Delta is on the prowl.

[anchadian]

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yes if you slept in or did not get the e-mail like I did not until just now this is what the link tells you

Although it mentions 'Americans' in the header?

 

[Registration for government allocated free vaccine] for expatriates residing in Thailand who meet these 2 conditions - (1) have not received any COVID-19 vaccine and (2) are over the age of 60 and/or have underlying disease(s)

 

[Olmate]

46 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Tracked, traced, close contact of a case, told to like we were. Who knows why?

 Xxxx scared ring a bell?

[Whale]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Did you pick up the explanation in the post?

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 15th July only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases

They still don't correlate that do? I am being sincere. If the second graph shows an essentially flat curve over last 7 days up till the 15th (its essentially flat for 9 days up to the 17th) then the first should show a slowing of the curve as well on the 7 day average? I am not sure how they calculate "rolling average", maybe it (the first graph) will peak tomorrow if we have another 9-10k day?

[anchadian]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 659 new cases and one more death. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (137), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (156), and Si Racha (181). The total cases so far is now 14,715 with 5,877 remaining in care 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416192690132328449

 

 

 

659 is a new record high for cases in the province. However, 246 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi.

 

This makes a total of 14,715 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 5,877 still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 76 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. The details on yesterday’s deaths were not given, which is standard for the health department.

 

Additionally, 8,762 people in total have now been released from medical care and recovered in Chonburi since this current wave began.

 

More:  https://tpnnational.com/2021/07/17/chonburi-announces-659-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-with-one-new-death/

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Whale said:

They still don't correlate that do? I am being sincere. If the second graph shows an essentially flat curve over last 7 days up till the 15th (its essentially flat for 9 days up to the 17th) then the first should show a slowing of the curve as well on the 7 day average? I am not sure how they calculate "rolling average", maybe it (the first graph) will peak tomorrow if we have another 9-10k day?

No they do not correlate but thats also in the explanation I give just now and also in the post but here is more details for you:

 

First graph is only showing data up till the 15th July and "includes prison cases."

 

The second graph is up to todays numbers but is community cases only so "does not include any prison cases."

 

[tingtong]

In my home country/EU, the new infections and deaths numbers only started to take a serious turn down after reached about 40% vaccination in the population.

Sadly Thailand is a very far cry from that level.

On the top, using a 50% efficacy Sinovac is more false hope than protection.

Right now, the outlook remains bleak, doesn't matter what the propaganda saying.

 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

Food for thought:

 

BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine antibodies ten times higher than Sinovac's: study

 

 

[anchadian]

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has decided to close Chatuchak Market from July 16 to 29 in order to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003360