1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You're misreading the labels on the other chart, which is in TH language.

 

The 2.59 million figure isn't a vaccine doses number. It's a different kind of statistic.

 

The vaccine numbers in the blue color chart I posted above are correct.

 

And they basically match with the official numbers from yesterday's MoPH report as excerpted below, except for the added vaccines from Sunday:

 

Doses up thru Saturday:

 

Thank you for the clarification John.

If the original OP chart numbers are not  correct / misleading, why is it being posted ?

Surely some kind of explainer from them would be in order.

Keep up your excellent daily reports John.

They must be hard work for you to keep up to speed with - good Job.

 

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

When the Bangkok region runs out of critical care hospital beds with the critical patient counts still rising every day, such as currently is the case, Houston has a problem.

When health authorities stop putting people in the hospital/or field hospital or hotelhospital or whatever names they come up with, when there is no need for them to be there, then things will look a lot different. 

4 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Thank you for the clarification John.

If the original OP chart numbers are not  correct / misleading, why is it being posted ?

The statistic in question I believe is correct. It's just not labeled in TH as a vaccinations number. It's an entirely different label of statistic.

 

Also, I didn't post the graphic you're asking about, so I can't speak to that...except for two comments.

 

1. A lot of the info that comes out of MoPH only comes in TH language with no EN language translations, which creates challenges for sharing the info in a forum like this.

 

2. Whenever I post TH language content from the government like that, I try to provide my own EN translations in the image itself or by way of text explanation, to avoid that kind of confusion.

 

8 minutes ago, BestB said:

4000 patients is little different to 15000 tested positive on daily basis, But do not let facts get in a way of good fear monegring.

 

80% of people who tested positive, ie 80% of 15000 daily cases do not need any medical attention, but lets brush that aside and concentrate on 4000 in critical condition for entire month, ie lets brush aside 97% but concentrate on 3% , much 

Are you that daft. Critical care cases have filled hospitals, over 6k are still awaiting a bed because they need treatment, folks are dying at home and you make this a nothing burger.  Unbelievable 

34 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The implication is that the true figure for Covid deaths is much higher than officially stated. The reason for that implication is that the only factor differentiating May and June this year and the same months in the previous 5 years, is that this year Covid is present.

 

not saying that it is true or not, but that is the implication.

 

Put another way, If you ignore official death figures and ask yourself, why are deaths in those months so much higher in 2021 than the average for the last 5 years, what reasons do you come up with? That is the conundrum to be considered.

Indeed its not 100% evidence but excess death compared to an average of 5 years before is a good indication of covid deaths. But the government does not want to release these numbers. Because that really shows how bad it is and gives them a bigger tart on the face.

 

I think its safe to say that excess deaths in all countries are mainly covid related and often much higher then what is reported. Unlike what the deniers want to think governments don't want those high numbers out. It shows how they failed. So numbers are not used to scare people they are kept low. India is also a good example 400k reported research shows between 3 and 4 million deaths. So if anything deaths are world wide under reported.

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Are you that daft. Critical care cases have filled hospitals, over 6k are still awaiting a bed because they need treatment, folks are dying at home and you make this a nothing burger.  Unbelievable 

Deniers will deny no way you can change that. Doctors and other experts say the situation is critical. Hospitals are overflowing but the denier farang armchair scientists know better.

 

Nothing to see. lockdown not needed.. medical system really not over stressed. These guys should work for the Prayut government their misinformation would aid them well. 

5 minutes ago, BestB said:

When health authorities stop putting people in the hospital/or field hospital or hotelhospital or whatever names they come up with, when there is no need for them to be there, then things will look a lot different. 

 

No COVID patients are being placed in the ICU or critical care wards who don't need to be there, based on the severity of their symptoms. So your point is meaningless in regards to the health care system being maxed out for being able to treat the rising swells of critical patients.

 

The fact a lot of COVID case have no or mild symptoms means nothing in terms of a society's ability (or inability) to care for the smaller portion who in fact are critically ill.

 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I didn't post the graphic you're asking about, so I can't speak to that...except for two comments.

 

1. A lot of the info that comes out of MoPH only comes in TH language with no EN language translations, which creates challenges for sharing the info in a forum like this.

 

2. Whenever I post TH language content from the government like that, I try to provide EN translations in the image itself or by way of text explanation, to avoid that kind of confusion.

 

The challenges must be immense, and this is where confusion reigns

From this day forward I will use only the MOPH numbers as being something like true

Many thanks again for all your reports, and the effort you put in to giving us a true picture of events during these uncertain times

 

Just now, robblok said:

Deniers will deny no way you can change that. Doctors and other experts say the situation is critical. Hospitals are overflowing but the denier farang armchair scientists know better.

 

Nothing to see. lockdown not needed.. medical system really not over stressed. These guys should work for the Prayut government their misinformation would aid them well. 

It has nothing to do with being a denier, but realist. as per statistics posted, only 3% are in critical condition, 80% do not require any medical attention at all.

 

Thai health authorities continue to force people into hospital beds when there is no need for them to be there. If they could concentrate on the critical instead of filling up the beds with people who do not need to be there, things will get better.

 

Other countries, including beloved UK has by far higher number of people testing positing on daily basis, its all about being efficient 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

No COVID patients are being placed in the ICU or critical care wards who don't need to be there, based on the severity of their symptoms. So your point is meaningless in regards to the health care system being maxed out for being able to treat the rising swells of critical patients.

 

The fact a lot of COVID case have no or mild symptoms means nothing in terms of a society's ability (or inability) to care for the smaller portion who in fact are critically ill.

 

So according to your own stats, 4000 people filled up all hospital beds, fields, hotels and everything else turned into a hospital?

9 minutes ago, BestB said:

So according to your own stats, 4000 people filled up all hospital beds, fields, hotels and everything else turned into a hospital?

Now you're just trolling...

 

Hospital beds for critically ill patients are NOT the same as field hospital beds or even regular hospital beds for those with mild symptoms. Totally different kind of facilities and totally different kind of care. They're not interchangeable.

 

Thailand's available supply of critical care beds, as anyone with any common sense would understand, is much smaller than the total larger supply of general hospital beds, or even the quasi-hospital field hospital beds.

 

But, FWIW, in the BKK region right now, even the field hospital and general hospital beds are close to their maximum capacities, even as authorities are rushing to add more beds capacity. And they've begun isolating COVID asymptomatic positive cases at home instead of in hospitals, because they simply don't have enough beds for them all.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You can see it in graph form here:

 

"Excess mortality is a more comprehensive measure of the total impact of the pandemic on deaths than the confirmed COVID-19 death count alone. It captures not only the confirmed deaths, but also COVID-19 deaths that were not correctly diagnosed and reported2 as well as deaths from other causes that are attributable to the overall crisis conditions." https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

I wonder if April 2020 reflects lower road deaths caused by the lockdown during that period?

3 hours ago, Blumpie said:

Five million doses.  To be delivered.. next year.  

 

..or the year after that or most likely never at all.

A post with an unsourced and unsubstantiated claim has been removed.

 

14 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I wonder if April 2020 reflects lower road deaths caused by the lockdown during that period?

Possibly although in my opinion those excess deaths we are seeing in May/June, a large proportion can be put down to covid unrecorded deaths due to evidence of the willfully low testing numbers here.

26 minutes ago, BestB said:

It has nothing to do with being a denier, but realist. as per statistics posted, only 3% are in critical condition, 80% do not require any medical attention at all.

 

Thai health authorities continue to force people into hospital beds when there is no need for them to be there. If they could concentrate on the critical instead of filling up the beds with people who do not need to be there, things will get better.

 

Other countries, including beloved UK has by far higher number of people testing positing on daily basis, its all about being efficient 

Nobody is being forced into a hospital bed. Asymptomatics are sent to a quarantine facility, or put into home isolation.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 867 new cases and four more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (155), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (210), and Si Racha (241). The total cases so far is now 20,776 with 9,609 remaining in care #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1419445269217746947

 

Chonburi –

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced a record-breaking high of 867 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with four new deaths, July 26th.

 

This makes a total of 20,776 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 9,609 still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 100 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. The details on yesterday’s four new deaths were not given, which is standard for the health department.

 

More:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/26/chonburi-announces-record-breaking-high-of-867-covid-19-cases-with-4-new-deaths/

38 minutes ago, BestB said:

When health authorities stop putting people in the hospital/or field hospital or hotelhospital or whatever names they come up with, when there is no need for them to be there, then things will look a lot different. 

Are you suggesting that the government let people who test positive to just walk around?

38 minutes ago, BestB said:

It has nothing to do with being a denier, but realist. as per statistics posted, only 3% are in critical condition, 80% do not require any medical attention at all.

 

Thai health authorities continue to force people into hospital beds when there is no need for them to be there. If they could concentrate on the critical instead of filling up the beds with people who do not need to be there, things will get better.

 

Other countries, including beloved UK has by far higher number of people testing positing on daily basis, its all about being efficient 

You don't seem to get how it works. The people who are really sick get in different sections of the hospital. Totally different requirements these sections are now full. So that is pretty alarming. I don't care much about the amount of people infected. But when the ICU is getting full you know things are bad. Guess what the ICU is full and each day more come. 

 

Did you miss the article where they now stop intubating people of a certain age. So triage is already being done some people are just not saved anymore because of the need for those ICU beds for people with more chance to survive. 

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Went there yesterday. Went pretty smoothly and took just over an hour and that includes the compulsory 30 minutes you have have to wait before you can leave. It was AZ but I forgot to ask if it was home grown or from the donation from Japan. Nurses aspirated the syringe before plunging. There were alot of people but I wouldn't call it overly crowded or choatic as it was spread over quite a large area and ran pretty well. Bit of a headache today (may not be juice related), a bit more tired than usual and my arm ached a little bit when I woke up during the night but nothing really. 

 

On another point a local 200 bed field hosptital is in chaos I have been told. Entire families turning up but it's full as is the local hospital. The system is about to burst.

I had my first AZ jab in June. Like you I had a mild headache. I felt fatigued for a week after but now I feel as right as rain. Second AZ jab scheduled for the beginning of September.

THAI VOLUNTEERS AID COVID PATIENTS IN NEED OF CARE, TESTING

 

BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) — As Thailand‘s medical system struggles beneath a surge of coronavirus cases, ordinary people are helping to plug the gaps, risking their own health to bring care and supplies to often terrified, exhausted patients who’ve fallen through the cracks.

 

In the Samai area of Bangkok, Ekapob Laungprasert’s team heads out for another weekend on the front lines of a crisis.

 

His volunteer group, Samai Will Survive, has been working around the clock, responding to about a hundred SOS calls daily from desperate COVID-19 patients unable to get the help they need.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/07/26/thai-volunteers-aid-covid-patients-in-need-of-care-testing/

1 hour ago, BestB said:

When health authorities stop putting people in the hospital/or field hospital or hotelhospital or whatever names they come up with, when there is no need for them to be there, then things will look a lot different. 

Here is a link that help you understand that sick people are desperately needing hospitalization but not getting it. Quite the contrary to you alluding that authorities are putting people in hospitals. Key words in link are 20,000 sick people needed hospitalization but unable due to chronic shortages and inability of sick people to contact hospital medical staffs. Volunteers have to step in. 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-covid-19-bangkok-saimai-will-survive-volunteers-15296346

TIMELINE: Pattaya and Banglamung informs residents who visited places in relation to most recent Covid -19 confirmed cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/26/timeline-pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases-3/

Several trolling posts have been removed.

 

7 minutes ago, anchadian said:

TIMELINE: Pattaya and Banglamung informs residents who visited places in relation to most recent Covid -19 confirmed cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/26/timeline-pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases-3/

1. A risky career, meeting a lot of people, 47 cases

This one keeps going up!   Was 27 of these kind of cases yesterday.   The odds of catching covid for those farangs that are continuing to enjoy the services of girls must be getting shorter every single day in Pattaya - unless of course they are quick enough to only need less than a fleeting encounter with them.

34 minutes ago, Loong Boon Mee said:

I had my first AZ jab in June. Like you I had a mild headache. I felt fatigued for a week after but now I feel as right as rain. Second AZ jab scheduled for the beginning of September.

My mild headache has turned into a cracking headache and I feel pretty ordinay. Not as bad as when I had my initial raft of injections for rabbies though. Stiil as I stated previously get two AZ and hopefully nxt yr an mRNA booster. 

Unintentional Herd Immunity coming soon. 

#COVID19 update in #Thailand on Monday:

 

Since 1 April

483,815 people infected (+14 imported and +15,362 local)

4,052 dead +87

167,057 in care

4,289 in ICU and 967 on ventilators

6,782 discharged from care

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1419531342316924934

 

Out of 14,321 local cases (outside prisons) most in

 

Bangkok - 2,573

Samut Sakhon - 1,074

Samut Prakan - 970

Chonburi - 867

Nonthaburi - 719

Rayong - 411

Chachoengsao - 320

Nakhon Pathom 311

Pathum Thani - 301

Ayutthaya - 290

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1419532541111853059

 

Bangkok province's new COVID case total on Monday declined for the third consecutive day to 2,573 new cases, even as Thailand's national total once again set new record highs. Bangkok also reported 41 new COVID deaths on Monday.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/373180834300247/?type=3