Thailand reports 18,027 new COVID-19 cases, 133 deaths

[smedly]

42 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bang Lamung/Pattaya (279)

jesus christ, that's heading for 2000 a week 8000 a month - very disturbing considering the place is deserted 

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

jesus christ, that's heading for 2000 a week 8000 a month - very disturbing considering the place is deserted 

Is it deserted?  How many residents might there be in actuality.  How many are justcweekend residents that arrive fromm BKK unimpeded.

[anchadian]

Phuket Opinion: Raising the drawbridge

PHUKET: The move by the Phuket Governor to restrict all entry to Phuket to essential arrivals only from starting this Tuesday (Aug 3) is one of the best decisions the provincial government has made so far during the ever-ongoing ‘Third Wave’ outbreak of COVID-19 infections. The only problem is that it could have been done sooner.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-opinion-raising-the-drawbridge-80884.php

[smedly]

44 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

This guy is a true rocket scientist in my view, in another OP running they talk about daily cases of 40k, and then 30k

I would like to see all the detections including rapid test results - they claimed 96% accuracy which is good enough to report on IMO

[Ninafarm]

Yesterday traffic was very busy in Pattaya and Foodland at mid day was plugged.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

59 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

It is understood that the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) will shortly rule on whether to extend the lockdowns and restrictions in the so-called 'dark red' zones in Thailand, as well as discussing other measures.

 

As I posted in yesterday's daily thread, Air Asia and Nok Air have already adjusted their public flight schedules to show an extension of the current ban on regular domestic flights into and out of Bangkok for an additional week beyond the original Aug. 2 endpoint.

 

Air Asia Thai has this notice on their website:

 

 

http://www.airasia.com

 

[jerrymahoney]

21 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

29 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

So why aren’t the prisons at 100% infected?

It's only the government and as you no doubt remember they tried to cover up the the prison situation, who says it isn't. My guess is infection rates in prisons are very high indeed. I also find it interesting that there has been no mention of clusters in the armed forces. 

Per BP 21 JULY at Khon Kaen prison there were total male 4458 prisoners. 1635 were tested with 315 positive infections who were then moved to field hospital. All prisoners were planned to be tested.

[smedly]

3 minutes ago, Ninafarm said:

Yesterday traffic was very busy in Pattaya and Foodland at mid day was plugged.

I go at 5am if I need supplies - it is empty at that time

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

You have to say, the government's current set of curfew/lockdown measures in the dark red zone areas have been a resounding success -- NOT!

 

July 20 when the current measures were first imposed:

11,305 daily cases, 80 deaths and 3,711 critical condition patients

 

Today less than two weeks later:

18,027 daily cases, 133 deaths and 4,765 critical condition patients

 

What's not to like?  ????

 

 

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, smedly said:

I would like to see all the detections including rapid test results - they claimed 96% accuracy which is good enough to report on IMO

I have not seen anywhere a scientic claim that rapid antigen tests get 96%. 80% for the best ones going down from there. I see your point though. Test positive and have either no or minor symptoms you are still positive. If they want to use these things then numbers must be included. Problem is without these being done under medical supervision here will they be done correctly i.e. proper throat and nasal swab (so false negatives are a problem with these things) and will people say anything if they do come up with a positive.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

You have to say, the government's current set of curfew/lockdown measures in the dark red zone areas have been a resounding success -- NOT!

 

July 20 when the current measures were first imposed:

11,305 daily cases, 80 deaths and 3,711 critical condition patients

 

Today less than two weeks later:

18,027 daily cases, 133 deaths and 4,765 critical condition patients

 

What's not to like?  ????

 

 

Agree. It's the ICU and those on ventilators that needs to see a reduction in this period and it hasn't happened. The opposite has.

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

You have to say, the government's current set of curfew/lockdown measures in the dark red zone areas have been a resounding success -- NOT!

 

July 20 when the current measures were first imposed:

11,305 daily cases, 80 deaths and 3,711 critical condition patients

 

Today less than two weeks later:

18,027 daily cases, 133 deaths and 4,765 critical condition patients

 

What's not to like?  ????

 

 

Problem is that we don't have an alternate earth somewhere where the Thai government did not lock down on 20 July so we could compare. I am convinced the numbers would be higher without a lockdown. I am not saying that the lockdown is carried out well. But I do know it has stopped a lot of people from having contact some people i knew still went out had parties but that is now done because of the lockdown. 

 

Talking about larger parties here 15+ ppl. But now nobody goes out at night anymore. People stay home more. So it is limiting contact for sure. 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Problem is that we don't have an alternate earth somewhere where the Thai government did not lock down on 20 July so we could compare. I am convinced the numbers would be higher without a lockdown. I am not saying that the lockdown is carried out well. But I do know it has stopped a lot of people from having contact some people i knew still went out had parties but that is now done because of the lockdown. 

 

Talking about larger parties here 15+ ppl. But now nobody goes out at night anymore. People stay home more. So it is limiting contact for sure. 

 

 

Of course things would have been worse if they did nothing.

 

But, what they did was little more than show and window dressing.

 

Just look at the outbreaks in factories with hundreds affected and thousands of cases throughout them, and the govt. basically did nothing proactively to prevent factories from becoming major cluster outbreaks... Go back and look at the July 20 restriction measures, basically nothing impacting factories at all.

 

But, they did manage to close public parks in Bangkok. So gotta give them credit for that!!!  ????

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[dinsdale]

Just now, robblok said:

Problem is that we don't have an alternate earth somewhere where the Thai government did not lock down on 20 July so we could compare. I am convinced the numbers would be higher without a lockdown. I am not saying that the lockdown is carried out well. But I do know it has stopped a lot of people from having contact some people i knew still went out had parties but that is now done because of the lockdown. 

 

Talking about larger parties here 15+ ppl. But now nobody goes out at night anymore. People stay home more. So it is limiting contact for sure. 

 

 

I agree. Hence closing bars, dine in, schools etc. The thing is though numbers continue to grow. So yes, the psuedo lockdown has probably kept numbers from skyrocketing but it hasn't resulted in a decrease or even stabalisation of numbers. The spread continues and the numbers will continue to rise.

[Smithson]

1 hour ago, Scrotobike said:

2. Lock down fully (close most factories, transport etc, certainly close the lottery!) for a month - but pay the workers (the HiSo factory owners can afford this so no goverment money needed)

........

5. Drop tax on beer/wine/whisky to allow the locked in some pleasure!

 

(5 is me being selfish)

 

Did I miss anything?

Many Thais in manafacturing and transport work are self employed or for small scale enterprises, not hi so bosses. Nonetheless they pay into social security along with their employers and deserve government support.

 

You would like them to suffer, while you benefit from reduced tax on your alcohol, which is taxed high in most countries due to the cost to society.

Edited August 1, 2021 by Smithson

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I agree. Hence closing bars, dine in, schools etc. The thing is though numbers continue to grow. So yes, the psuedo lockdown has probably kept numbers from skyrocketing but it hasn't resulted in a decrease or even stabalisation of numbers. The spread continues and the numbers will continue to rise.

Think your use of 'Pseudo' very appropriate.

Just coincidentally currently watching Thai news channel. 

They made a camera ride along Sukhumvit rd Asoke area.

LOT of folk out today.

[Scrotobike]

4 minutes ago, Smithson said:

Many Thais in manafacturing and transport work are self employed or for small scale enterprises, not hi so bosses. Nonetheless they pay into social security along with their employers and deserve government support.

 

You would like them to suffer, while you benefit from reduced tax on your alcohol, which is taxed high in most countries due to the cost to society.

Oh dear - soooo serious!

I can put these dreams here as there is no chance of them happening as I do not have any influence here.

You don't believe in full lock down?

 

[Robs5ct]

31 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

You have to say, the government's current set of curfew/lockdown measures in the dark red zone areas have been a resounding success -- NOT!

 

July 20 when the current measures were first imposed:

11,305 daily cases, 80 deaths and 3,711 critical condition patients

 

Today less than two weeks later:

18,027 daily cases, 133 deaths and 4,765 critical condition patients

 

What's not to like?  ????

 

 

What do you think the numbers would be right now without all the measures ?

More or less than 18000 ? 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Here's an example -- we're fully FOUR months into the third wave outbreak that began in April, and still almost ONE THIRD of the country's factories haven't passed / aren't passing whatever meek COVID standards the government has for them.  That's THOUSANDS of factories not complying...

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158173608732050

 

DO BETTER!

 

Which would have had a greater impact on reducing the country's COVID numbers?

 

--closing down all sit-down restaurant dining in red zone area, even when social distanced (which is what they did)

 

vs

 

--enacting strict measures to prevent and control huge COVID cluster outbreaks at the nation's factories (which they totally failed to do)

 

 

 

[robblok]

21 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Of course things would have been worse if they did nothing.

 

But, what they did was little more than show and window dressing.

 

Just look at the outbreaks in factories with hundreds affected and thousands of cases throughout them, and the govt. basically did nothing proactively to prevent factories from becoming major cluster outbreaks... Go back and look at the July 20 restriction measures, basically nothing impacting factories at all.

 

But, they did manage to close public parks in Bangkok. So gotta give them credit for that!!!  ????

 

Yes they don't want to hurt the pockets of their friends took them forever to close the worker camps.  Government is out of money cannot compensate workers and such. Then they can never have their subs. 

 

[anchadian]

The new registration site for foreigners looks like it just crashed.

 

Insert any email address you wish:

 

The above error occurred while the Web server was processing your request.

Please contact us if you think this is a server error. Thank you.

Edited August 1, 2021 by anchadian

[smedly]

4 minutes ago, Robs5ct said:

What do you think the numbers would be right now without all the measures ?

More or less than 18000 ? 

 

I actually have faith in people protecting themselves provided they are given accurate data and information about the virus and the spread - Thailand seem to think that hiding information is better - better for who ?, it certainly is not in the public interest to keep them in the dark.

[Phuketshrew]

14 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The new registration site for foreigners looks like it just crashed.

Yes. I alerted a friend in Pattaya to register this morning. His reply "Website CRASHED after 5 seconds. <<deleted>>". 

[Smithson]

7 minutes ago, Scrotobike said:

Oh dear - soooo serious!

I can put these dreams here as there is no chance of them happening as I do not have any influence here.

You don't believe in full lock down?

 

I do believe in a full lockdown, but if bosses have to pay workers not to work they need some form of compensation, same with all those self employed in transport, as they are often poor people.

 

Sure I have a sense of humor, but everyday there are expats saying making life easier for them will help the country or saying they don't care, the Thais bought it on themselves.

[Smithson]

10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Here's an example -- we're fully FOUR months into the third wave outbreak that began in April, and still almost ONE THIRD of the country's factories haven't passed / aren't passing whatever meek COVID standards the government has for them.  That's THOUSANDS of factories not complying...

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158173608732050

 

DO BETTER!

 

 

What are the meek standards the govt has set up? Employers tell me they are getting no advice or assistance from govt.

[Robs5ct]

6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The new registration site for foreigners looks like it just crashed.

 

Insert any email address you wish:

 

The above error occurred while the Web server was processing your request.

Please contact us if you think this is a server error. Thank you.

Specialists at work. Well tested indeed

[onthedarkside]

A long post that largely was an unsourced/uncredited plagiarized version of a politician's speech has been removed.

 

[smedly]

25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Here's an example -- we're fully FOUR months into the third wave outbreak that began in April, and still almost ONE THIRD of the country's factories haven't passed / aren't passing whatever meek COVID standards the government has for them.  That's THOUSANDS of factories not complying...

Problem is that this virus has changed - protection rules that were effective for the original China strain are much less effective against delta - it has be shown that even walking past someone briefly can pass on the virus now - it is extemely contagious, being in close proximity to an infected person is a big risk and obviously increases depending on other factors - this virus speads very easily 

 

I suspect covid would be long gone had it not mutated 

 

burnt my bacon while writting this lol

Edited August 1, 2021 by smedly

[Olmate]

9 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The new registration site for foreigners looks like it just crashed.

 

Insert any email address you wish:

 

The above error occurred while the Web server was processing your request.

Please contact us if you think this is a server error. Thank you.

Says my email is already inuse.Cannot.resubmit.

[Scrotobike]

4 minutes ago, Smithson said:

I do believe in a full lockdown, but if bosses have to pay workers not to work they need some form of compensation, same with all those self employed in transport, as they are often poor people.

 

Sure I have a sense of humor, but everyday there are expats saying making life easier for them will help the country or saying they don't care, the Thais bought it on themselves.

I do not care for Thailand per-se but I do care for the old who are dying because of the misdirection of scarce vaccines towards the sandbox fubar, and not directed at the old and sick

 

On a good note (a positive from the virus) I have quit drinking (beer) as I can no longer drink outside. I will not drink (beer) at home. My family and myself here in Issan have kind of locked ourselves down only going out for food.