Another flat day suggesting we have reached the peak and with the falling numbers in Bangkok, all bodes well going forwards with reason for optimism. 
 

The opening for peak season seems on track and will be a mighty relief for all the struggling and desperate Thais. 
 

 

17 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Is the decline in numbers being vaccinated because of a lack of vaccines or what is the issue.

My guess, lack of vaccines. It was always going to be impossible to keep up the ratr of 600k for 2 days last week.

2 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Another flat day suggesting we have reached the peak and with the falling numbers in Bangkok, all bodes well going forwards with reason for optimism. 
 

The opening for peak season seems on track and will be a mighty relief for all the struggling and desperate Thais. 
 

 

You sound like an optimist, others sound like a pessimist, me I am more of a realist (somewhere in-between).  Let's hope the optimist is right this time.

45 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 

All the countries that got an early start on vaccination will now face the problem of waning efficacy, especially when confronting Delta.  I believe Israel is now starting to offer vaccinated elderly people and those with preexisting health conditions booster shots.  The U.S. will probably soon do the same.  Meanwhile, the data continue to show that vaccinated people may well contract COVID but they will be much, much less likely to get seriously ill and die.  Any anti-vaxxer who wants to use this new CDC advice as a tool to bash vaccines has their head screwed on backwards.

 

Well said fella.....

Sadly  social media is still plagued by whackjobs, 5G vaccine chip maniacs, resets, Bill Gates, depopulation loonies and all the rest of the anti vaxxer imbecilic nonsense

58 minutes ago, Denim said:

Ironic considering that Israels vaccination roll out was probably the most successful in the world.

One of the most popular vaccines used was Pfizer !

israel has the same issue that many nations face, not everyone is willing to take the vaccine.  so they have a third wave and more people will die.  the vaccines should keep the death numbers well below those experienced in the previous two waves.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I really hope this is a trend and that we've seen the peak. 

 

However, I think more likely is that people are doing ATK tests at home instead of going to a hospital and all the inconvenience and risk that entails, and hence many new infections from these home tests are not being included in the figures.

If you were Thai would you go to a Hospital and get tested, with the prospect of a 2 week stay in a Covid Isolation prison.

or, would you perform an ATK test at Home for a few baht, and stay away from the Isolation Prison, and all that it entails.

No brainer really.

Expect the Hospital tests to drop and a lack of reporting of ATK tests.

Its only about 7 or 8 weeks until the Country will open, and a slow burn is needed on the smoke.

55 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 

All the countries that got an early start on vaccination will now face the problem of waning efficacy, especially when confronting Delta.  I believe Israel is now starting to offer vaccinated elderly people and those with preexisting health conditions booster shots.  The U.S. will probably soon do the same.  Meanwhile, the data continue to show that vaccinated people may well contract COVID but they will be much, much less likely to get seriously ill and die.  Any anti-vaxxer who wants to use this new CDC advice as a tool to bash vaccines has their head screwed on backwards.

 

Correct, Israel has already given 500 thousand to the over 60’s and plans on doing them all. the UK from Sept plans on giving over 32 million from next month.

With less than 7 percent of Thailand fully vaccinated thus far and only about 24% having received a single shot, Thailand has finally provided a new update after several weeks on how various provinces are faring with their vaccination efforts.

 

Rarely does the government any more talk about the "fully vaccinated" rates for any place, and instead nowadays pretty much only talks (as with the first chart below) about how Phuket and Bangkok supposedly have reached the government's own stated 70% "vaccinated" rate goal -- even though in their recent terminology that means only one shot (shown by the blue segments) and doesn't confer as much protection as the full prescribed two-dose vaccination regimen (shown by the green segments).

 

The upshot is that Phuket province reopened to international traveler arrivals under the "sandbox" scheme even though the province, according to the chart below, was and is well-short of the 70% rate for being fully vaccinated, standing at only 59%. Bangkok's fully vaccinated rate according to the government is around 15%, and everywhere else is less.

 

Presumably, the other vaccination rates cited in the first chart below for the older population above age 60 and those with any of the seven designated chronic conditions are also the single-shot "vaccinated" rates as opposed to the "fully vaccinated" rates for those provinces.

 

And then adding into the mix, we had Thailand's top virologist yesterday say that the goal of 70% vaccination, which originally meant 70% fully vaccinated, to achieve supposed "herd immunity" no longer has any great meaning in light of the emergence of the more contagious Delta variant, and he put the new fully vaccinated target figure instead at 85%! -- https://aseannow.com/topic/1226896-dr-yong-more-vaccine-needed-as-herd-immunity-increases-to-85-requirement/

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/382956553322675/?type=3

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/fanmoph/photos/a.769525979740426/6651482398211392/?type=3

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/382956203322710/?type=3

15 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

You sound like an optimist, others sound like a pessimist, me I am more of a realist (somewhere in-between).  Let's hope the optimist is right this time.

That’s probably a fair summary. 

3 minutes ago, buick said:

israel has the same issue that many nations face, not everyone is willing to take the vaccine.  so they have a third wave and more people will die.  the vaccines should keep the death numbers well below those experienced in the previous two waves.

Israel actually is a little lower than Canada is for vaccination... and Canada had a much later start (about 4 months after US).  If I remember/understood correctly from my fb newsfeed, certain religious sects within Israel are less likely to be vaccinated.  They were referred to as 'Charedi' which I had to search and find (what I suspected) referred to as what is most commonly called in North-America as 'Ultra-Orthodox' (obviously my Judaic knowledge is limited) [also called Heredi].  Israel also has a more mono-vaccinated population than most (Pfizer), I would think variety would be better in some cases as different vaccines would have different strengths/weaknesses.

4 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

That’s a fair summary. 

Numbers recovered all time high I think altho no graph to show.My gf 4 kids/spouses who were all admitted 5.6 weeks ago are now officially free to go.!! 

Pretty amazing that Thailand today managed to report a new record high of 235 deaths for the day, while at the same time also reporting a new record high for critical condition COVID patients at 5,450, which was an increase of 232 over the prior day, even with all the new deaths!

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I really hope this is a trend and that we've seen the peak. 

 

However, I think more likely is that people are doing ATK tests at home instead of going to a hospital and all the inconvenience and risk that entails, and hence many new infections from these home tests are not being included in the figures.

The number of cases in the whole of SE Asia has fallen four days on the trot so maybe it is a trend.

New cases in Thailand and Chonburi seem to have peaked and have been holding steady or declining slightly...unfortunately deaths, a lagging indicator, are still rising.

36 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

If you were Thai would you go to a Hospital and get tested, with the prospect of a 2 week stay in a Covid Isolation prison.

or, would you perform an ATK test at Home for a few baht, and stay away from the Isolation Prison, and all that it entails.

No brainer really.

Expect the Hospital tests to drop and a lack of reporting of ATK tests.

Its only about 7 or 8 weeks until the Country will open, and a slow burn is needed on the smoke.

I wonder if the economy can survive another 7-8 weeks of lockdown?

16 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Numbers recovered all time high I think altho no graph to show.My gf 4 kids/spouses who were all admitted 5.6 weeks ago are now officially free to go.!! 

i helped support a group of 6 that rode out their infections at home (bangkok).  they made it.  no hospitalizations.  got pills from the hospital to take at home.  4 adults and 2 kids.  the kids (under 5) had a fever for about 36 hrs and then were fine.  all 4 adults, single females in their 30's that had moved in together to survive the economic difficulties.

Just now, buick said:

i helped support a group of 6 that rode out their infections at home (bangkok).  they made it.  no hospitalizations.  got pills from the hospital to take at home.  4 adults and 2 kids.  the kids (under 5) had a fever for about 36 hrs and then were fine.  all 4 adults, single females in their 30's that had moved in together to survive the economic difficulties.

I would suggest that people that are riding it out at home, if they can get there hands on one of those 'finicky' finger blood / oxygen meters (probably very hard to get right now) it would be wise as you can easily go from stubbornly fighting the virus to 'in distress'.  (typically if the meter drops below 95% - it is time to seek treatment at a hospital). 

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

 

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 1,005 new cases 10 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (271), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (179), and Si Racha (262). 18,650 patients are now in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1424891860967776258

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/10/chonburi-announces-1005-covid-19-cases-with-ten-deaths/

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I wonder if the economy can survive another 7-8 weeks of lockdown?

Can’t see it lasting that long of the trends continue. 

 

In addition with the Sandbox school proposal kicking off it’s looking more promising all round. 
 

 

10 minutes ago, buick said:

i helped support a group of 6 that rode out their infections at home (bangkok).  they made it.  no hospitalizations.  got pills from the hospital to take at home.  4 adults and 2 kids.  the kids (under 5) had a fever for about 36 hrs and then were fine.  all 4 adults, single females in their 30's that had moved in together to survive the economic difficulties.

Great example. Well done to you. 

9 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

New cases in Thailand and Chonburi seem to have peaked and have been holding steady or declining slightly...unfortunately deaths, a lagging indicator, are still rising.

I've heard this from you before. Every time you have been wrong. Hopefully you are right this time but let's see what the rest of the weeks holds.

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I wonder if the economy can survive another 7-8 weeks of lockdown?

With this number of Daily cases, the Economy really has little option other than to survive,

Whether that means the Government have to dig into funds that have been allotted for other uses, or they need to borrow more Money, who knows.

The Country is due to open in October, but there will be very few Tourists to fill the Government Coffers with Money.

Many Countries around the Globe are still experiencing major outbreaks, and Thailands biggest Market for Tourists ( China ) has a new and ferocious wave of Delta they are struggling to control.

Pattaya has already shelved its plans to reopen in September.

7 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

I would suggest that people that are riding it out at home, if they can get there hands on one of those 'finicky' finger blood / oxygen meters (probably very hard to get right now) it would be wise as you can easily go from stubbornly fighting the virus to 'in distress'.  (typically if the meter drops below 95% - it is time to seek treatment at a hospital). 

that is good advice.  one thing these ladies had going for them is two of them are active with rescue foundations.  and one them owns an ambulance.  i've ridden in it (not for medical care thank god !!).  so i covered the financial portion (and that part hasn't ended yet !!) and they did have others checking them.  hopefully with the oximeter.  if things turned south, they did have a ride and hospital connections.

20 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I wonder if the economy can survive another 7-8 weeks of lockdown?

 

What would the death of the economy look like?

 

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

My guess, lack of vaccines. It was always going to be impossible to keep up the ratr of 600k for 2 days last week.

Wait, but did not Anutin say 1 million a day, oh wait his lips were moving so that says it all...

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Wait, but did not Anutin say 1 million a day, oh wait his lips were moving so that says it all...

What do you mean?  Is he untrustworthy or something???

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Wait, but did not Anutin say 1 million a day, oh wait his lips were moving so that says it all...

I fell into that one ????

Meanwhile in Phuket they have found a novel way of discouraging people taking a test. 

 

You could literally be sent to prison. A third field hospital is now being set up in an old prison for green patients. B.P.

 

Psychology at work there....555

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The red box I outlined on your graph shows the declining daily tests.

 

Test and you shall find. Or cut back on tests and.............less cases

Does this mean 19843 were positive out of 50036 total tested for Covid-19? This made percent positive 40% which is very high. 

6 minutes ago, sanmyintmaung said:

Does this mean 19843 were positive out of 50036 total tested for Covid-19? This made percent positive 40% which is very high. 

Now that is nailing it right where it is with what the government provided for stats.  Just think of those that also tested using the ATK tests and are at home isolating now, that percentage could even be greater.