Prominent Thai doctor says everyone will eventually catch Covid-19, we need to learn to live with it

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, AnotherFarang8 said:

Yes. Other doctors in the west were saying this back in spring 2020 but they were quickly shot down in the media, devoiced in youtube, etc.

 

This thai doctor describes what has just happened in India - most people got sick and acquired natural immunity from the live virus, the wave went down. The number of detected infections is bs everywhere, real numbers are in billions now, mortality rate is very low. What happened in India is now happening in Thailand, give it another month to play out.

1000 people dying a week on average now. I don't call that low. 1 month you say.  Let's see. By then testing will probably be less than 30,000 so you might be right. What you don't see won't hurt you or so the saying goes.

[ikke1959]

This morning the same news in the Netherlands.. They wrote that 700.000  vaccinated people will get Covid because for some unknown reason their immunity system is not working properly. In the same article the doctors claim that everyone who is not vaccinated will get Covid. 

Edited August 19, 2021 by ikke1959

[chalawaan]

Yup. And so had the clown-show. But not as they have responded so far. They need to dig deep and then get out of capitalism's way. I'm not sure that reality has sunk in.

[DoctorB]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

how many died in India - do you even know

Officially 433,063 and 31,536,224 recovered, according to worldometers.info; but I guess the figures will be rubbished as usual.

[AnotherFarang8]

43 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

1000 people dying a week on average now. I don't call that low. 1 month you say.  Let's see. By then testing will probably be less than 30,000 so you might be right. What you don't see won't hurt you or so the saying goes.

Exactly, what you will not see is the deaths from economic, physical and psychological health damage caused by lockdowns. They will not report them with the intensity they report these bs infections which are a tip of the iceberg. They will not report them so it didn’t happen.

 

Infections are a tip of the iceberg. I am pretty sure i have had covid over the past 2-3 weeks as i’ve had some of its specific symptoms, that never happened for flu or common cold before. It will not be reported, as millions of others. I see people around me have the same specific symptom of dry cough which lasts 2-3 weeks. Almost all deaths in my town are people over 65yo, not too many. Younger people recover on their own without reporting it. Vaccination levels are low here, so it happens naturally. I will go have a test for antibodies in 1 month to confirm that it was covid i had, but it sure looks like it. Natural immunity is best. I will still have to get vaccinated later this year to enter Thailand.

Edited August 19, 2021 by AnotherFarang8

[EricTh]

What is the viral load of patients who just recovered?

[ukrules]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

what is wrong with some Thai people - this is ridiculous 

They're a little dim.

 

In reality someone who has just recovered from COVID is going to be the safest person to be around for a long time to come.

 

Edited August 19, 2021 by ukrules

[balo]

Finally a Thai with common sense, a rare sight. 

Now they need to educate Thais this is not the end of the world, it's just a virus. 

[ukrules]

43 minutes ago, balo said:

Finally a Thai with common sense, a rare sight. 

Now they need to educate Thais this is not the end of the world, it's just a virus. 

If they did that then it would be kind of hard to justify the complete and utter destruction of the lives of many people.

 

Also the COVID prisons - they're being locked up in a COVID prison because nobody is to be trusted and the government believes people will immediately go and spread the virus to everyone they know. Zero trust in the people. Not because COVID is actually so bad that they need treatment and monitoring.

 

They treat everyone like naughty children and clearly blame the infected for being infected.

 

The way government are handling this is the problem.

 

[zzaa09]

6 hours ago, DoctorB said:

Officially 433,063 and 31,536,224 recovered, according to worldometers.info; but I guess the figures will be rubbished as usual.

All official numbers should be rubbished, as they don't reflect true situations - anywhere.

[JensenZ]

10 hours ago, Joinaman said:

whats the deaths count from Covid now, 8,500  in 20 months ?

numbers so small compared to other ways people die in Thailand

If not for the media hype, lockdowns, etc, how many would even know or care with such small numbers

 

That's manipulation of statistics. 20 months is irrelevant, because for the 1st year there were fewer than 100 deaths. Most of that number are since April, 2021.

[JensenZ]

55 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

All official numbers should be rubbished, as they don't reflect true situations - anywhere.

However, they are all we have to go on, even if inaccurate. It's still preferable to people rubbishing the numbers and making up their own.

[vandeventer]

11 hours ago, smedly said:

what is wrong with some Thai people - this is ridiculous 

 

Had no idea this sort of thing was going on - infantile stupid people 

Didn't they say the same thing about AIDS?

[misterphil]

What a great way to scare the locals. ????

[PEE TEE]

He is right i have said this from last year we will all get it . after all i would think everyone has had a cold Covid will be the same  some will get it worst than others .best get vaccine to reduce the symptoms 

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, smedly said:

what is wrong with some Thai people - this is ridiculous 

 

Had no idea this sort of thing was going on - infantile stupid people 

Same thing happened near to me, a local Thai who contracted Covid in a factory has been shunned by the neighbours, no-one talks to or even offers help.

Home isolation took on a new meaning.

[BadSpottedDog]

10 hours ago, JerseytoBKK said:

Here's what stopped Covid in India:

 

India succeeds with Invermectin. Figures from Johns Hopkins.

Full story: https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html

 

Uttar Pradesh on Ivermectin:  Population 240 Million [4.9% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 26

COVID Daily Deaths: 3

The United States off Ivermectin: Population 331 Million [50.5% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 127,108

COVID Daily Deaths: 574

Let us look at other Ivermectin using areas of India with numbers from August 5, 2021, compiled by the JHU CSSE:

Delhi on Ivermectin: Population 31 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 61

COVID Daily Deaths: 2

Uttarakhand on Ivermectin: Population 11.4 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 24

COVID Daily Deaths: 0

Now let us look at an area of India that rejected Ivermectin. 

Tamil Nadu announced they would reject Ivermectin and instead follow the dubious USA-style guidance of using Remdesivir. Knowing this, you might expect their numbers to be closer to the US, with more cases and more deaths. You would be correct. Tamil Nadu went on to lead India in COVID-19 cases.

Tamil Nadu off Ivermectin: Population 78.8 Million [6.9% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 1,997

COVID Daily Deaths: 33

 

 

Thank you for posting this. Been reading up about it. Hope others take notice.

[mrfill]

11 hours ago, Joinaman said:

whats the deaths count from Covid now, 8,500  in 20 months ?

numbers so small compared to other ways people die in Thailand

If not for the media hype, lockdowns, etc, how many would even know or care with such small numbers

 

8500 in 20 months but 7879 since April 1st (142 days) - about 55 a day on average

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, mrfill said:

8500 in 20 months but 7879 since April 1st (142 days) - about 55 a day on average

And up to 200/day average over the last week with a +5% weekly change.

[crazykopite]

This is total BS there are no jobs to go back to at the moment most of Thailand is closed for business it’s okay for the doctor his job is more than safe regardless of Covid as there are always sick people 

[thailand49]

Sadly the Doctor is right!  it isn't just with Covid people should open their eyes and see how A.I.D.s patients are treated particularly the children!  This behavior comes to a lack of education.

[poskat]

“Their boss doesn’t let them go back to work."

this is somewhat happening at my job. One guy got covid and worked in an an office of 3 and that had a a lot of interaction with the next office over with 3 in it. none of the other people tested positive.

 

After he was in isolation for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks at home, now only 1 person can come to work each day in both offices, and the day the covid guy comes in , no one comes in the other office either.

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, crazykopite said:

This is total BS there are no jobs to go back to at the moment most of Thailand is closed for business it’s okay for the doctor his job is more than safe regardless of Covid as there are always sick people 

It was only yesterday that I was reading that there were plenty of jobs available in Thailand and the issue in reality is it is jobs formerly occupied by people from neighboring countries, who have now gone back due to Covid.  Thais are not keen on these lowly low paid jobs, so perhaps their kids aren't hungry enough or Thai industry needs to bring wages up higher than near slave labour levels. 

[edogthong]

10 hours ago, JerseytoBKK said:

Here's what stopped Covid in India:

 

India succeeds with Invermectin.

Thank you for that information. It's fascinating how people are just ignoring it because it doesn't fit the narrative. It seems that many need to believe that the vaccines will be the solution that brings us back to normal life. I suppose if you've taken the jab or even just fully committed to taking it, you're generally not open to any information that'll put your decision into question. 

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, ArcticFox said:

The government and health care organizations have purposefully stoked "the fear or Covid-19" to "11" on the Spinal Tap volume knob.  What should they expect?  A rational public.  They've told the public globally since March 2020 to cower in fear.  So now the majority - irrationally - cower in fear. 

I agree with the doctor.  Live with it or destroy society as it once was, which may be the point. 
They reap what they have sown. 

So, you are okay with letting the virus run rampant like in India earlier this year.

[mrfill]

12 hours ago, AnotherFarang8 said:

Yes. Other doctors in the west were saying this back in spring 2020 but they were quickly shot down in the media, devoiced in youtube, etc.

 

This thai doctor describes what has just happened in India - most people got sick and acquired natural immunity from the live virus, the wave went down. The number of detected infections is bs everywhere, real numbers are in billions now, mortality rate is very low. What happened in India is now happening in Thailand, give it another month to play out.

India had a massive spike in mid-May, a month after 10m+ unprotected people gathered for the Kumbh Mela. Coincidence?

 

And could you say why the US hasn't had the same thing as their current infection numbers are 5 times that of India despite having only a quarter of the Indian population figure? And it is rising in the US but falling in India.

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, edogthong said:

Thank you for that information. It's fascinating how people are just ignoring it because it doesn't fit the narrative. It seems that many need to believe that the vaccines will be the solution that brings us back to normal life. I suppose if you've taken the jab or even just fully committed to taking it, you're generally not open to any information that'll put your decision into question. 

I think that is harsh.... it is more likely a lack of research that supports the position. The Invermectin itself did not stop infection but it is claimed to be an effective treatment for those with mild to severe symptoms. Surely the vaccinations are more effective in relation to reducing those mild to severe symptoms. 

Prevention is better than cure is it not?

[JerseytoBKK]

13 minutes ago, BadSpottedDog said:

Thank you for posting this. Been reading up about it. Hope others take notice.

Hundreds of billions of $$$ are being spent for vaccines but a tiny amount is being spent on trials for medications that can stop Covid once a person is infected. The vaccine market next year will be worth $300-500 BILLION. That type of money buys lots of media, politicians and scientists.

 

Besides Ivermectin, there are at least 5 other drugs that I know of that are showing promise and could dramatically reduce deaths. One of them is fostamatinib and I own stock in that small company. 

[Gsxrnz]

In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.  Orwell, 1984.

[JerseytoBKK]

6 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I think that is harsh.... it is more likely a lack of research that supports the position. The Invermectin itself did not stop infection but it is claimed to be an effective treatment for those with mild to severe symptoms. Surely the vaccinations are more effective in relation to reducing those mild to severe symptoms. 

Prevention is better than cure is it not?

Prevention is a myth being pushed by the mega $$ Billion Pharma industry. Did past year's flu vaccines stop the next year's version of the flu? Every year the flu vaccine manufacturer's guess what is going to appear next year. Covid-SARS is mutating rapidly. Far better to get effective treatment, especially if it can be very low cost pill.