Lockdown set to be relaxed next week: DDC

[Valentine]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

As far as I can make out, the vaccine rollout has so far accelerated about as fast as a tortoise riding an overloaded grocer's bicycle.

A bit faster than that https://covidvax.live/en/location/tha

[ThailandRyan]

Wait, where have I heard this before "It may happen, It may not, we will just have to wait and see"  or was it, "The end is nigh".  oh yes that's right it was "It will be what it will be"........next up Prayut welcoming the first flights into BKK with water cannons streaming over the top of the planes and the first arrival being given a free 1 night stay at the Hotel Nana.....

[cyril sneer]

It’ll be back again, just like South Africa

 

https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/513638/when-the-fourth-covid-19-wave-is-expected-to-hit-south-africa-expert/

[smedly]

take your pick 

 

- the semi lockdown has reduced numbers - while factory output never dropped from last year numbers - so in effect no lockdown

 

- Number of detected infections have reduced because PCR testing dropped by 40% from 76k a day to now under 50k a day

 

- vaccine rollout which takes at least 4 weeks to have an impact has stopped the spread 

 

- the detected cases have been moved away from hospitals into private homes were cases are hidden from view and were detections are only through RAT kits which are not included in any data 

 

- the Thai government have thrown in the towel 

 

you can choose more than one option 

 

 

[GrandPapillon]

as I predicted, the bad news and the rising cases are making lockdowns and longer lockdowns impossible, without destroying everything else

 

you can't simply use the lockdown as an excuse to save the world, other factors are to be considered, not only the health safety

[Nip]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Do they not follow what is happening in other countries?

Dear God man of course they don't. They hardly know what's going on here. 

[Almer]

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's not going away, any reduction in measures will be met with a proportional increase in infections.

 

But it's almost like they're beginning to realise that something's changed since last year - this is not the same scenario that happened in Europe in 2020.

 

There's nowhere near as many deaths here when you compare them to detected infections.

 

There's been a million detected infections in Thailand with 9562 deaths.

 

In the UK when they reached 1 million detected infections (October 31, 2020) there had been 46,645 deaths

In Italy at 1 million infections (November 11, 2020) there had been 42,953 deaths.

 

That's quite a difference, likely many contributing factors to this, especially population age and of course it's not the same virus that it was a year ago...it's mutated multiple times since then so I guess it's kind of hard to compare as it's not comparing like with like.

 

 

Yes and today i read , Iran 35,000 detected against 650 deaths, maybe,  as i am not a scientific person  immunity is being achieved by natural default, with Delta in these countries you would of expected higher death rates, lets all hope it is starting to take a turn. 

[2009]

Excellent.

 

Imagine a global lockdown for a fraction of a percent of the population at risk. Lol

 

No, we don't need to imagine: it happened!

 

 

[Anton9]

Just now, shdmn said:

Or maybe because, you know, lots of people are getting vaccinated, which gives you far more protection that lasts a lot longer.  

They already explained hundred of times vaccines only lessen the severity of the infection,not the transmission.

[shdmn]

6 minutes ago, Anton9 said:

They already explained hundred of times vaccines only lessen the severity of the infection,not the transmission.

What does that have to do with your mischaracterization of the article you posted?

Edited August 23, 2021 by shdmn

[2009]

2 hours ago, djayz said:

Although I'm sick and tired of  these lockdowns, and long for life to go back to the way it was (notice how I avoided using "normal"), I can't help but feel that it might be a tad too early to open up again. 

Yes, I know that a lot of people and businesses are hurting, but what if infection rates start climbing again? What do we do then? Another lock down? 

Would it not be more sensible to leave things as they are for a few more weeks in the hope that this thing will blow over? 

Use the word "normal" - it is!

 

I honestly don't know why the world is locking down this way.

 

Ekon Musk had it right: isolate the high risk people.

 

Why is EVERYONE in lockdown? 

 

 

[Will B Good]

Just now, 2009 said:

Use the word "normal" - it is!

 

I honestly don't know why the world is locking down this way.

 

Ekon Musk had it right: isolate the high risk people.

 

Why is EVERYONE in lockdown? 

 

 

I wondered "why not lockdown the at risk'"and read, without any real explanation given, that it just doesn't work?

 

Regarding why lockdown? It is to flatten the curve and avoid the collapse of health care systems, it is not a mechanism for preventing the spread of the virus, just the rate at which it spreads. Am I teaching you to suck eggs, if so, apologies.

 

[cclub75]

I told you so... Reality principle.

 

Philippines showed the way, 4 days ago :

 

Link : https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippines-duterte-relax-coronavirus-curbs-capital-region-2021-08-19/

 

The Covid Party is over. Because we just can't afford it. It's a simple as that.

 

Western countries will probably continue... They have the means (budget deficits, QEs with central banks etc.). Let them eat their cake, their debts and their insanity.

 

But here ? No way San José.

 

So, the doom brigade : soon... unemployement.

 

Your party is over....

 

And us, at last, we will be able to resume our daily life... ????

 

[ikke1959]

Let them do it... ease restrictions, lockdowns and lower the the tests. put more RAt tests in , so we can manipulate the cases ... with a very slow vaccination program and nobody will know that the cases will rise again higher than before but because of the smoke curtains we make of the teargas we will show that our measures were succesful

Edited August 23, 2021 by ikke1959

[impulse]

Continued lockdowns probably sound better to expats on a fixed income than they do to the millions of Thai people out of work.

 

Just saying...

 

[ikke1959]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

Continued lockdowns probably sound better to expats on a fixed income than they do to the millions of Thai people out of work.

 

Just saying...

 

I am wondering which lockdown... Here in Phetchaburi the markets are open as usual, only clothing and electronics and stationary you can't buy in the shopping malls. Big C Tesco, Robinson.... restaurants are closed for sit in dining, but KFC/McDonald/MK/ and all the rest are open for take away.. The fitness centers are closed yes, but the rest???? we can go and buy whatever we want where we want.. So I am wondering what lockdown for the millions Thais??  

[2009]

20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I wondered "why not lockdown the at risk'"and read, without any real explanation given, that it just doesn't work?

 

Regarding why lockdown? It is to flatten the curve and avoid the collapse of health care systems, it is not a mechanism for preventing the spread of the virus, just the rate at which it spreads. Am I teaching you to suck eggs, if so, apologies.

 

The concept is: if you are not an "at risk" person you aren't likely to have a life threatening illness and therefore be hospitalized.

 

The at risk people can isolate to protect themselves and relieve the burden on the healthcare system.

[hackjam]

Great news indeed, Thailand cracking on with vaccine program, must be up to 40% with at least first jab??? At last, some light at the end of the tunnel.  

[Scott]

Post and reply with a link to the BKK post have been removed.  The Post does not permit us to use them as a source. 

[Sametboy2019]

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

Deaths from Delta are greatly reduced everywhere, the problem with looking at the UK or European data is that there are very large numbers of vaccinated people there.

 

In India and Thailand the number of people who are or were vaccinated when Delta hit was very low, that's the difference that makes the difference here....

So your saying being vaccinated makes the Delta variant worse?

[Kadilo]

2 hours ago, Valentine said:

A bit faster than that https://covidvax.live/en/location/tha

Great post.  Thanks for the update. ????

Looks like latest data on your link is suggesting 70% of population will be double jabbed by beginning January. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Kadilo

[Kadilo]

57 minutes ago, impulse said:

Continued lockdowns probably sound better to expats on a fixed income than they do to the millions of Thai people out of work.

 

Just saying...

 

Excellent point. 

[lolalol]

58 minutes ago, impulse said:

Continued lockdowns probably sound better to expats on a fixed income than they do to the millions of Thai people out of work.

 

Just saying...

i think so too.  i actually don't feel much of economic impact under the lockdown.  just annoyed by the fact that i can't dine in at a restaurant, can't go to public park, and the curfew.

[Kadilo]

3 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

So you want to hide away from the lergy behind your sofa forever?

I think it’s more a case of hiding behind their PC 

[AnotherFarang8]

Good. Thailand will look like a regional genius if it starts opening with realization that covid is here to stay but people must eat.

 

Especially compared to Vietnam that seems to be going full retard where the government is determined to fight covid to extinction until last man.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, hackjam said:

Great news indeed, Thailand cracking on with vaccine program, must be up to 40% with at least first jab??? At last, some light at the end of the tunnel.  

Some. Not so much. The great majority of that only first dose. First dose of Sinovac offers very little protection. Not nearly there yet. 

[scorecard]

7 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Dont get too excited, it might only be IT stores are allowed to open in addition to banks in malls. 

And hopefully it might mean a stepped approach to quarantine on arrival from abroad, for all travelers at all arrival points.

[champers]

8 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

I see food lines in Pattaya, but not many or any lines of people getting vaccinations.  I question the Thai idea of what priority means

I was vaccinated today at Central on Beach Rd. It took an hour; including 30 minutes recovery post jab; and during that that hour there must have been at least 100 other expats in the process.

The indoor stadium in Pattaya has been reported to be very busy with Thais getting jabbed. There has been yraffic jams getting in and out.

The process is moving along and more vaccines are due next month and in October.

[DaveSamutP]

9 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Do they not follow what is happening in other countries?

Going to be a big price to pay by opening up so early. Expect cases to rise sharply 2 weeks after easing lockdowns.

[shdmn]

50 minutes ago, DaveSamutP said:

Going to be a big price to pay by opening up so early. Expect cases to rise sharply 2 weeks after easing lockdowns.

Cases continued rising weeks after the lockdown so I doubt the current drop has that much to do with it.  Same thing happened in India.  Their cases dropped even though they never had much if any lockdowns going on.  It didn't have much to do with vaccination either.  At the time they were probably less than 10% with at least one jab.

Edited August 23, 2021 by shdmn