12 minutes ago, samtam said:

I have absolutely no idea what this graphic means. Nada. Zilch.

No problem, it will all change soon and each province will enforce it in their own unique way.

26 minutes ago, Dick Z said:

Spread of virus by vaccinated is a lot less than by unvaccinated. This is (supposed to be) common knowledge by now

Public Health England  seems to disagree ??

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

 

Page 2

• PCR cycle threshold (Ct) values from routinely undertaken tests in England show that Ct values (and by inference viral load) are similar between individuals who are unvaccinated and vaccinated.

 

And other "interesting" data on pages 18-19
 

 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

No problem, it will all change soon and each province will enforce it in their own unique way.

Good point. This is only Friday's version.

Hopefully they know more quality vaccines are arriving.

 

I'm finally scheduled for Pfeizer but my spouse is still waiting for Moderna in October.

In the meantime she refuses to take Sinovac, and I agree with that.  

 

Silly not including the pfeizer for wives.  Most people dine with there spouses.  They never think things through.

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

You better check again yourself, it is listed next to the Covid Free Customer in the box and in yellow

No problem, somehow we read the chart differently. I only see the ATK test on the personnel (employee) line.

So this will be policed like the wearing of motorcycle helmets over the last year. I can’t wait to see the protests in the street get bigger.

16 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

So, you don't mind if the virus runs free and kills 100,000+, as long as your bar can open... 

The virus will run through the country whether you like it or not. And people will die just the same--mostly elderly with comorbidity.

You don't like it? Set up your own private lockdown and tuck yourself in.

2 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

ive had 2 shots.i wish to protect myself and others,comply,ive done that.so wheres my card?is it in the post,do we apply for it?where?this is more of this unreal incompetence.so card please!!!i suggest that they give all the info not just a bit to annoy you

Download the mor prom app. Use the ID number starting with 600 from your vaccination record and the telephone number that you used, and the app will give you an online green card if you have 2 shots already. 

That being the case, the so-called "Sandbox" racket should be terminated and the compulsary Covid Insurance premiums should be reduced for vaccinated arrivals. 

Insurance premiums are always calculated based on risk. So consideration should be given to us who are vaccinated, because even in the event of being infected, the vaccinated individuals rarely require hospitalisation and recover quickly. This is now medically established. 

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

The vaccinated people weren’t mostly elderly with underlying conditions were they? And the unvaccinated healthy young people? 
 

this is just conspiracy theory stuff.

What is the difference between conspiracy theory and truth?

Currently about 6 months

19 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

How does being vaccinated help when vaccinated people can still get infected and spread the virus about as easily as the unvaccinated, even if they don't get so sick.

I believe the theory is something like .. numbers an example.

 

Scenario 1

20 vaxed people in a restuarant at same time.  Unlucky for them one has covid and it spreads to others.  They only get mildly sick.  Like a cold. Dont need hospital bed.

 

Importantly they re not so infectious (the experts say .. not me or the government). There is some risk but keeping restuarants shut causing finacial hardship so calculated risk.

 

Scenario 2

20 people in a restuarant. Unvaxed people among them.  Unlucky for them one has covid and it spreads to one or more of unvaxed.  They in turn become very infectious. Take up hospital beds possibly and also spread it to family, in other restuarants on baht buses etc etc etc. 

 

Unvaxed people very infectious if D variant.  Vaxed only mildly infectious.

 

Despite financial hardship risk on opening to ALL vaxed or not is not considered worth it.

 

Thats the theory most health experts and government going by.

 

(Not my theory).

 

 

1 hour ago, johnarth said:

funny how nearly nobody understands that after having 2 jabs you still have to wear a mask and are just as much libel to infect people as anyone else, so all precautions will need to stay in place because of you

Breakthrough infections are rare among the vaccinated. 

9 minutes ago, Mises said:

What is the difference between conspiracy theory and truth?

Currently about 6 months

Because conspiracy theories are so useful during an epidemic. 

Maybe what they can do is waive immigration procedures for the unvaxxinated. 

42 minutes ago, aBigSmile said:

The virus will run through the country whether you like it or not. And people will die just the same--mostly elderly with comorbidity.

You don't like it? Set up your own private lockdown and tuck yourself in.

If only everyone understood how the world should work, life wouldbe bearable again

19 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Get the card you need at any Market from today.

But hey ! Why bother, nobody is going to check

Yep, and why would it be any restaurant's (or other independent business owners) duty to check all the details involved, just to allow customers in.?

 

whys everyone moaning? it will be the usual.... they do it for about two weeks and then you will be able to go into restaurants unchallenged. which im all for. 

And what about people who already have had Covid 19 and those who have enough antibodies to fight it???

They havent even been considered by these people. Why should they be ignored and not able to participate in society?

It appears they want you jabbed with something whether you need it or not........totally illogical from a medical and human rights point of view, 

14 hours ago, James105 said:

Now try replacing the word “unvaccinated” with “obese” in what you said here and see if you still stand by your desire for medical apartheid based on peoples personal choices about what they put into their bodies.

Never heard of someone catching obesity from someone else.

3 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

You consider constantly increasing loss of even basic liberties while furthering Orwellian restrictions and repression 'nothing'??? 

 

Some of us non-sheeple beg to differ.

No you’re just alarmists with nothing to do that will believe almost anything that suits your “opinion”!

Alarmists have been around for generations…you do no good at all for anyone (even yourselves) but fortunately for the rest of us you also do very little harm????

20 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Israel's 20% Unvaccinated Now Account for Half of All Serious COVID-19 Cases

 

 

https://bestlifeonline.com/news-covid-obesity/
 

yet not a single word by health officials to lose weight. Instead it’s lockdowns, close gyms and parks. 

Just when you think it can't get anymore ludicrous in Thailand they come up with this little gem. 

Utter stupidity! Get Thais vaccinated and stop this nonsense!

3 hours ago, jimrod said:

The 'foot' massage is a bit confusing. Does that mean up to a foot or only a foot? ????

If it means the staff have to be vaccinated it wont matter how long it is because there will be no staff to speak of.

Any news hot to get the green card if you if fully vaccinated abroad?

Sick of it . So in clear curfew extended  , + population segregation. 

The world is watching. Thailand is in the red for many years to come . 

The word is out ...the place to evoid .

5 hours ago, theonetrueaussie said:

From israel where they made all their medical data available to pfizer
"the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in the under-60 crowd (3.2 per 100,000) was a little more than double the rate among vaccinated people in that age bracket." So 3.2 people per 100k with serious conditions of vaccinated vs 6.4 for unvaccinated......

Just open up the country already and make the over 60's stay home, simple ????

Not sure my girlfriend will approve of that.

I'm below and she is above 60 ????

21 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Where do you get these cards?

 

I thought this was all going to based on your Mor Prom app?

What good is the Mor Prom app if you don’t have a 13 digit Thai ID.

 

GF & I have had both doses & proof was supposed to be available the next day from the hospital website but 1 week later it’s still not there… It is showing in GF’s Mor Prom app but obviously that’s of no use to me.

 

Feel like I’m stuck between a rock & a hard place as not only can I not get proof of vaccination, but I’m showing as having had the vaccine so can’t register for any other jabs either ????

 

 

21 hours ago, Dart12 said:

Open for 7% of population ????

I have a piece of paper saying I was vaccinated with Astra Zeneca at Bang Sue a month ago, how do I get the green/yellow/polka dotted cards? Do I also have to get a test? 

WHY ON EARTH DON'T YOU OPEN THE BLESSED GYMS? 

Your (Gov) stupidity is astounding!

22 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

with only 1 in 10 people inoculated so far.

Not going to drum up much business by the look of it??