Celebrity call out of leather goods spark online debate

[webfact]

 

By Natcha Patanasophon

 

A famous Thai celebrity called on the fashion industry to build on sustainable alternatives to avoid animal products after controversy over a leather bag.

 

On Wednesday, Maria Poonlertlarp expressed her concern on social media about animal abuse and industrialized killing in the fashion industry.

 

Her opinion has sparked debate on social media. According to PETA Asia’s studies, every year, millions of animals including snakes, lizards, and crocodiles, are abused and cruelly killed in Thailand for their exotic-skins or parts. These animals are cut open or skinned alive for commercial purposes.

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/35506/celebrity-call-out-of-leather-goods-spark-online-debate/

 

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[RichardColeman]

23 minutes ago, webfact said:

On Wednesday, Maria Poonlertlarp expressed her concern on social media about animal abuse and industrialized killing in the fashion industry.

Maybe she could sit outside the Chinese embassy and hold a placard saying stop EATING the words endangered wildlife too

[ezzra]

Nothing new here, heard it all before... The day they stops slaughtering animals for their meats that'll be the day when they'll stop using their by products..

[pizzachang]

23 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Nothing new here, heard it all before... The day they stops slaughtering animals for their meats that'll be the day when they'll stop using their by products..

No more Fish!  Let's expand oil production to make more synthetics!  Let's expand agriculture to make more cloth.  What animals, exactly, are "skinned alive"?   "Celebrity experts"  - the John Wilkes Booths of activists.  IMO

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, pizzachang said:

Celebrity experts"  - the John Wilkes Booths of activists. 

Pro slavery fanatics who shoot presidents in the back of the head?
 

Don’t think so…

[Skeptic7]

Regardless whether carnivore, omnivore or herbivore...seems everyone "human" should be onboard with at least supporting the idea of reducing suffering of ALL animals, not just the human animal. Especially the unnecessary suffering caused for fashion statements or sensory pleasure, aka taste buds.

 

Bizarre how highly evolved and intellectually superior we consider ourselves, as humans...yet many/most couldn't act less "human" when it comes to the exploitation and suffering of our fellow sentient earthlings. 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

A famous Thai celebrity called on the fashion industry to build on sustainable alternatives to avoid animal products after controversy over a leather bag.

 

On Wednesday, Maria Poonlertlarp expressed her concern on social media about animal abuse and industrialized killing in the fashion industry.

Maybe if she's so traumatised about the fashion industry abusing animals for products maybe she should take a closer look in her make-up bag and start there.

 

[jacko45k]

58 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Bizarre how highly evolved and intellectually superior we consider ourselves, as humans...yet many/most couldn't act less "human" when it comes to the exploitation and suffering of our fellow sentient earthlings. 

It is very much hidden from us by the producers.... I expect there would be an abundance of revulsion if we were to learn the truth and reality of the production of food and goods for our consumption. 

I was shocked once seeing how chicken was bred and raised and slaughtered for our benefit by mega producers.

Action?

This would only drive it under deeper cover and into the unregulated areas of the world where it would likely be worse.....

That said, I really can't see myself going vegan, but I guess I don't need a snakeskin wallet or crocodile skin shoes. 

[Skeptic7]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Maybe if she's so traumatised about the fashion industry abusing animals for products maybe she should take a closer look in her make-up bag and start there.

 

A fair point, but do you know for a fact she hasn't? Perhaps she is aware and consistent. Using faux leather bags and cruelty-free cosmetics certainly isn't a new or novel idea you just came up with. There are literally hundreds of cruelty-free brands of cosmetics alone. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Skeptic7

[mikebell]

Why would producers skin animals alive?  Surely their squirming would make the process more difficult?

[chaila]

5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe she could sit outside the Chinese embassy and hold a placard saying stop EATING the words endangered wildlife too

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

It is very much hidden from us by the producers.... I expect there would be an abundance of revulsion if we were to learn the truth and reality of the production of food and goods for our consumption. 

I was shocked once seeing how chicken was bred and raised and slaughtered for our benefit by mega producers.

Nah, nobody really cares only the price of the product matters.

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nah, nobody really cares only the price of the product matters.

It’s not true to say nobody cares, I care more about the product than the price. 

[seajae]

these people are so full of it, no one skins alive as you need to be precise with your knife skills and a moving animal makes that impossible, these people simply lie/use innuendo to make it sound bad and peta is one of the worst pack of liars in the world as has been shown time and again over the years, they are total hypocrites. Humans have been eating and wearing animal skins since creation, these brain dead idiots try to push their BS beliefs onto everyone else when they dont believe/live by them themselves, so many minority groups use absolute BS lies and innuendo to garner support, thing is so many of the younger generation believe all their garbage because many are unable to think rationally as well as lack the intelligence to do so thanks to all the woke teaching thes days, as they say BS baffles brains

[Tropicalevo]

2 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

exploitation and suffering of our fellow sentient earthlings.

I assume that you mean the ones that are bred for consumption?

If they were not to be eaten, they would not be there. They did not breed naturally.

They have a life of relative luxury compared to their wild relatives.

Regular, healthy meals and water. Not having to forage.

Protected from natural (and possibly unnatural) enemies.

In many cases, protected from inclement weather.

Forced to have sex (maybe)?

Often treated by vets when sick.

This is not my personal view, just another way of looking at the world. It is not a black and white place.

[Thingamabob]

3 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Regardless whether carnivore, omnivore or herbivore...seems everyone "human" should be onboard with at least supporting the idea of reducing suffering of ALL animals, not just the human animal. Especially the unnecessary suffering caused for fashion statements or sensory pleasure, aka taste buds.

 

Bizarre how highly evolved and intellectually superior we consider ourselves, as humans...yet many/most couldn't act less "human" when it comes to the exploitation and suffering of our fellow sentient earthlings. 

Well said.

[Thingamabob]

The cruel way most humans have always treated animals, directly or indirectly, is a disgrace. 

[Skeptic7]

40 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

I assume that you mean the ones that are bred for consumption?

If they were not to be eaten, they would not be there. They did not breed naturally.

They have a life of relative luxury compared to their wild relatives.

Regular, healthy meals and water. Not having to forage.

Protected from natural (and possibly unnatural) enemies.

In many cases, protected from inclement weather.

Forced to have sex (maybe)?

Often treated by vets when sick.

This is not my personal view, just another way of looking at the world. It is not a black and white place.

Am talking about any and all. 

Of course they do not breed naturally. 

Luxury??? 

Forced to have sex...MAYBE? Try artificially inseminated.

 

You seem to be referring to Old Macdonald's Farm. Familiar with Big Agra and factory farms? Abhorrent places which pretty much sent Old Macdonald the way of the rotary-dial telephone and just as long ago. In the USA almost 99% are factory farms and globally around 90%.. 

 

This is not my personal view, just the actual facts and horrendous reality. Boggles the brain how anyone can push back against and oppose efforts to limit the unnecessary suffering and of exploitation of innocent creatures that have no voice to speak out for themselves. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Skeptic7

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7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe she could sit outside the Chinese embassy and hold a placard saying stop EATING the words endangered wildlife too

obsessed much?

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Another argument against the use of leather is that it subsidizes the destruction of the Amazon's rain forest.

How Americans’ Appetite for Leather in Luxury SUVs Worsens Amazon Deforestation

An examination of Brazil’s immense tannery industry shows how hides from illegally deforested ranches can easily reach the global marketplace. In the United States, much of the demand for Brazilian leather comes from automakers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/climate/leather-seats-cars-rainforest.html

 

European carmakers' leather use fuelling deforestation: NGO

 Some of Europe's biggest car giants including BMW and Jaguar Land Rover use leather linked to deforestation in South America, threatening the most vulnerable tribes, environmental campaigners Earthsight claimed on Wednesday.

The non-profit organization said the automakers buy leather for vehicle interiors initially sourced from cattle ranching on illegally razed land in a part of Paraguay that is home to one of the world's last tribes with no contact with outsiders.

The London-based group said the leather from the Paraguayan Gran Chaco, a region rich in biodiversitythat is home to jaguars and giant anteaters, enters the auto industry supply chains via Italian tanneries.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/european-carmakers-leather-use-fuelling-deforestation-ngo-1.5126376

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I assume that you mean the ones that are bred for consumption?

If they were not to be eaten, they would not be there. They did not breed naturally.

They have a life of relative luxury compared to their wild relatives.

Regular, healthy meals and water. Not having to forage.

Protected from natural (and possibly unnatural) enemies.

In many cases, protected from inclement weather.

Forced to have sex (maybe)?

Often treated by vets when sick.

This is not my personal view, just another way of looking at the world. It is not a black and white place.

You clearly have no idea of the horrific conditions factory farmed animals have to endure.

 

Here's just one link, there are many, many others [and yes I have seen the conditions animals endure in factory farm conditions first hand. One of the main reasons I became a vegetarian 38 years ago]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/03/coronavirus-animal-abuse-us-factory-farms

 

''There is nothing natural or inevitable about factory farms, which have transformed human agriculture into a monstrosity which would be unrecognizable to previous generations.''

 

Andrew Gawthorpe

Edited December 3, 2021 by Bluespunk

[PETERTHEEATER]

I gather from the OP photograph that the the 'celebrity' has just realized her new shoulder bag is made from an elephant's scrotum.......????

[phetphet]

7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Maybe if she's so traumatised about the fashion industry abusing animals for products maybe she should take a closer look in her make-up bag and start there.

 

Yes. I wonder how many fashion shoots and advertising jobs she will turn down because they don't conform to her animal products beliefs.

[Gottfrid]

19 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You clearly have no idea of the horrific conditions factory farmed animals have to endure.

 

Here's just one link, there are many, many others [and yes I have seen the conditions animals endure in factory farm conditions first hand. One of the main reasons I became a vegetarian 38 years ago]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/03/coronavirus-animal-abuse-us-factory-farms

 

''There is nothing natural or inevitable about factory farms, which have transformed human agriculture into a monstrosity which would be unrecognizable to previous generations.''

 

Andrew Gawthorpe

Nah, it´s just called development and evolution of industry.

[VocalNeal]

On 12/3/2021 at 3:26 AM, webfact said:

On Wednesday, Maria Poonlertlarp expressed her concern on social media about animal abuse and industrialized killing in the fashion industry.

I'd wager her car has leather seats.

[Bluespunk]

58 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Nah, it´s just called development and evolution of industry.

Nonsense, it’s unabated cruelty driven by profit. 

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonsense, it’s unabated cruelty driven by profit. 

Again, your opinion. I beg to differ.

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Again, your opinion. I beg to differ.

And as I say you are entitled to be wrong.

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On 12/3/2021 at 8:09 AM, hotchilli said:

Maybe if she's so traumatised about the fashion industry abusing animals for products maybe she should take a closer look in her make-up bag and start there.

 

How do you know she hasn't? Thanks for the cheap shot.

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2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

I'd wager her car has leather seats.

Another cheap unsubstantiated shot.