Thai police launch crackdown on prostitution

[Gandtee]

18 hours ago, Paulaew said:

Some additional guidance would be helpful. Are we supposed to call before or after?

 

Paul Laew

"Help! I am in a soapy massage establishment and I do believe the young lady is trying to take advantage of me. Please come down and investigate. Oooh! aahhhhh! I've changed my mind. Forget it. Sorry about the inconvenience."????

[Smithson]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well, you sound like a very classy couple... ????

 

She might want to be careful though. Thailand isn't really the place for foreigners to "rip into people", especially those on the fringes who are struggling to survive and have very little to lose. Maybe a bit of empathy would be more fitting given the current situation many find themselves in? 

Whenever this topic comes up there's always posters looking down on ppl, trying to show they have more class. Her statement was blunt, that's all.

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, Smithson said:

Whenever this topic comes up there's always posters looking down on ppl, trying to show they have more class. Her statement was blunt, that's all.

Blunt? Maybe...

 

I'd have said Crass.  

 

 

[Wandering druid]

seriously this is now news?? 

[Joules]

Good luck with that.  While the popular perception might be that foreigners fuel the sex trade, Thai men fuel 90% of it, according to an article I read in the Bangkok Post years ago (before the coup when it was still relatively free).  There are little brothels  with proximity to nearly every Thai village, many disguised as karaoke bars.   Good luck stopping something that is so thoroughly endemic to the culture.   Getting rid of every single prostitute in Bangkok would not even make a dent in the covid spreading potential of this oldest profession.

 

Edit:  Government will never stamp out something people want.  The US tried it with both Prohibition and The War on Drugs, both expensively failed disasters.  If the Thai government is serious about stopping the spread of covid through this channel, the best way is to legalize it and require licensing and regular (free) testing.  Of course, that can never be 100% but it would go a long way.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Joules

[Smithson]

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Blunt? Maybe...

 

I'd have said Crass.  

 

 

Actually you said it lacked empathy, which is not really true because it was a blunt statement of fact. So what if they're not classy.

[kcpattaya]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Establishments breaking the law would face prostitution...

Funny that

[side]

So, a crackdown on cracks. Cops will be all over this like a bad rash.

 

Sorry, I'll get my hat.

[RafPinto]

20 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

"Look they selling pussy again"

Look, they smelling pussy again????????????

[Henryford]

Is he going to arrest the whole of Pattaya?

[herfiehandbag]

I ran the good general's announcement through Google Translate: it came out as " Now that your businesses are being allowed to reopen, make sure that you are able to pay your informal taxes when my chaps come round."

[Danderman123]

As a point of information, China did crack down on prostitution about 10 years ago, and ended about 90 percent. Not that Thailand will do the same. 

[MadMac]

They are called "Digital Nomads" nowadays ????

[Smithson]

2 hours ago, Joules said:

Good luck with that.  While the popular perception might be that foreigners fuel the sex trade, Thai men fuel 90% of it, according to an article I read in the Bangkok Post years ago (before the coup when it was still relatively free).  There are little brothels  with proximity to nearly every Thai village, many disguised as karaoke bars.   Good luck stopping something that is so thoroughly endemic to the culture.   Getting rid of every single prostitute in Bangkok would not even make a dent in the covid spreading potential of this oldest profession.

 

Edit:  Government will never stamp out something people want.  The US tried it with both Prohibition and The War on Drugs, both expensively failed disasters.  If the Thai government is serious about stopping the spread of covid through this channel, the best way is to legalize it and require licensing and regular (free) testing.  Of course, that can never be 100% but it would go a long way.

The figure of 90% was being used 25 years. Since then there's been the closure of cheap brothels, a massive increase in tourism and sex before marriage is now accepted. Many or even most of the karaoke bars in villages were closed after 2014. So I doubt the figure is correct now (or possibly ever), but it has little to do with the issue.

 

Education is free until university, there are plenty of jobs around and the World Bank classes Thailand as upper middle income. People are doing this work through choice, which is up to them, it's wrong for others to try to control the sex lives of adults.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Smithson

[crazykopite]

Is the general angry because he had to pay so has declared war on these ladies who are only trying to make a living .I enjoy my weekly massage 

[NoshowJones]

Would they not be better clamping down on drunk drivers and motorbike riders than bother about prostitution which is harming no one, provided there is no underage involved, and no one forced to do anything against their will.

 

[NoshowJones]

21 hours ago, condobrit001 said:

Typo I think, should be infections.

No, infractions, how much for each prostitute I report with a photo? Should I get down to Pattaya with my camera? Or better still, get myself wired up.

[Gandtee]

2 hours ago, Smithson said:

The figure of 90% was being used 25 years. Since then there's been the closure of cheap brothels, a massive increase in tourism and sex before marriage is now accepted. Many or even most of the karaoke bars in villages were closed after 2014. So I doubt the figure is correct now (or possibly ever), but it has little to do with the issue.

 

Education is free until university, there are plenty of jobs around and the World Bank classes Thailand as upper middle income. People are doing this work through choice, which is up to them, it's wrong for others to try to control the sex lives of adults.

I asked a girl why she was a prostitute. She said "I like it." It's her body so surely she is entitled to use it as she so desires. The same applies to those using their services. Why do they do it? Because they like it. If their partner is a consenting adult, why not? What harm are they doing to society, other than offending the easily offended and the holier than thou..?

Edited December 28, 2021 by Gandtee
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[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

I asked a girl why she was a prostitute. She "I like it." It's her body so surely she is entitled to use as she so desires.

Most of the girls I met in the entertainment business in Thailand, never said the word prostitution or whore and I truly belive they did not look at themselves as prostitutes, they worked bar to give service to customers. I never asked a bar lady about prostitution either, not my business 

Edited December 28, 2021 by Hummin

[DBath]

I’m sure only the bottom 1% of brown envelope revenue contributors will be penalized - even culled from the ranks - all in the interest of ‘continuous improvement’. 

[bkk6060]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Would they not be better clamping down on drunk drivers and motorbike riders than bother about prostitution which is harming no one, provided there is no underage involved, and no one forced to do anything against their will.

 

I agree, it is a stupid law except for your examples many western countries no longer put much resources into enforcing it.

[tomacht8]

Thailand has its 1000 politicians, 2000 generals and 10000 high so VIPs, all of whom have at least 10-1000 million in assets. This group makes the laws for over 60 million Thais and criminalizes the struggle for survival of many people and families who are at the bottom of the food chain. Disgusting.

[pegman]

21 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

My GF is not from Thailand fortunately....lol.

I know. I've been to Burma. They know too.

[Hummin]

I was at a hotel close to airport where police had their convention, everywhere young girls flying around as chickens, and obviously not part of the stab on the hotel. Also quite impressive to see the drug police at a hotel in Koh Tao come to the swimming pool take off their pistol belt, order beer, and later the ladies arrive for the party! 

 

 

[paul1804]

22 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

I sincerely hope that the authority is serious in cracking down on open prostitution. Thailand has to change its image as a sex haven. The massage palours with the viewing gallery of prostitutes, the sex performance at go-go bars and the open bars with hookers chasing after customers got to go. It will be foolhardy to expect prostitution to be eliminated but clearing them from openly displaying and selling their assets will be a positive step. Like in Singapore, prostitution in itself is not illegal but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized like public solicitation, maintaining a brothel and living on the earnings of a prostitute and also those who are caught soliciting sexual services. There are many tourists who are turned off seeing open prostitution in Thailand. Cracking down will in fact increase the number of quality tourists.  

That will reap further havoc for the tourist industry and more unfed mouths if they try, why would you hope they close it?? If you dot like those places don't go there and if seeing them upsets you don't look!!!

[BritManToo]

23 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

There are many tourists who are turned off seeing open prostitution in Thailand. Cracking down will in fact increase the number of quality tourists.  

I would suggest there are no 'quality tourists' visiting Thailand.

And I can't imagine a future where any would want to holiday here.

[3NUMBAS]

hows the  crackdown going ?cos aussies are thinking of canceling their trips

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, paul1804 said:

That will reap further havoc for the tourist industry and more unfed mouths if they try, why would you hope they close it?? If you dot like those places don't go there and if seeing them upsets you don't look!!!

Here are some fun facts for you.

1.  Closing an estimated 3% of Gross Domestic Product of the sex industry will not collapse the Thai economy

2. Satisfying your lust on someone misfortune is not exactly a noble act of feeding someone mouths

3. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. It can’t be totally eliminated just like any countries in the world. The government is cracking down on open prostitution. Try to understand that. 
 

[Mickmouse1]

I hope he can creates few million jobs for those girls .

 

[spidermike007]

The people launch a crackdown on the Thai police. Petty shakedowns, and massive corruption will no longer be tolerated.

 

You want to make some real money? Become a real entrepreneur, not a shake down artist, and stop sucking the blood of society, and giving little in return. 

Edited December 28, 2021 by spidermike007