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A father went to the media for help in obtaining justice after his nine year old son was savagely attacked by three Rottweiler dogs in Korat.

 

The breed is described online as "good-natured" but a US club warns that they can become destructive and out of control if not properly trained, notes ASEAN NOW. 

 

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Tawatchai Anuwet, 45, from Khun Thong sub-district in Bua Yai district, Nakhon Ratchasima said that the owner of the dogs had reneged on an agreement to pay him 1.3 million baht. 

 

His son went fishing with friends at 7 am on January 22nd. 

 

Three dogs had got out of a chicken farm and attacked him about 300 meters from the farm.

 

He had horrific wounds to his head, arms, legs, body,  ears, neck and was covered in blood.

 

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He also had a ruptured lung meaning that he had to be transferred from Bua Yai hospital to Maharat Nakhon Rathasima Hospital where he spent 10 days in ICU. 

 

Since then he has had to endure 12 surgeries and has more work to be done on his arm on April 11th. 

 

After a report was filed with the Bua Yai police the father asked for 3 million baht which was bargained down to an agreed 1.3 million baht.

 

But since the agreement was made the dogs' owner has said he is only prepared to pay 200,000 baht and said he is prepared to go to prison if pressed for more.

 

He told the father to sue him in court, reported INN.

 

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Wikipedia describes the Rottweiler breed as "steady, self-assured, devoted, fearless, good-natured, alert, obedient, confident, calm and courageous".

 

The American Rottweiler Club states:

 

"For us, the Rottweilers are the best breed in the world, but we firmly believe they are not a dog for everyone. Rottweilers require a calm, stable and firm "pack leader" or they will assume that role for you. Puppies AND adults need socialization, exercise and stimulating mental challenges. With these things, you will have a wonderful companion"

 

But the club adds ominiously:

 

"Without (these things) your Rottweiler may become destructive and out of control". 

 

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What a nice guy.

( Sorry, nice Devil dog owner)

TIT.

 

 

 

 

 The dogs need to be put down, closely followed by the owner. 

 

 

This kind of dog, in particular, should never be off their leads in public and should always wear a collar.

 

The few times I have encountered rottweilers they have come across as vicious and uncontrollable.

15 minutes ago, webfact said:

The breed is described online as "good-natured" but a US club warns that they can become destructive and out of control if not properly trained, notes ASEAN NOW. 

When will people learn that it's nothing to do with the breed? It is how they are raised. Whether it's a Rottweiler, Ridgeback, PitBull, Doberman, German Shephard or whatever, they are all capable of inflicting very serious injuries and therefore need to be trained, socialized and not left to roam free in packs causing chaos in the villages.

 

Focusing on the breed just reinforces lazy stereotypes and shifts blame from where it should be placed - The Owner.

 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

When will people learn that it's nothing to do with the breed? It is how they are raised. Whether it's a Rottweiler, Ridgeback, PitBull, Doberman, German Shephard or whatever, they are all capable of inflicting very serious injuries and therefore need to be trained, socialized and not left to roam free in packs causing chaos in the villages.

 

Focusing on the breed just reinforces lazy stereotypes and shifts blame from where it should be placed - The Owner.

 

 

....and to add to this......many owners are more than happy to encourage a vicious streak in their dogs........it adds to their macho image.

 

27 minutes ago, webfact said:

The breed is described online as "good-natured"

Really?

 

Not how I've ever thought of them...

28 minutes ago, webfact said:

But since the agreement was made the dogs' owner has said he is only prepared to pay 200,000 baht and said he is prepared to go to prison if pressed for more.

Off you go then.

I would starve the dogs for two weeks in a cage then throw the owner in there.

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

When will people learn that it's nothing to do with the breed? It is how they are raised. Whether it's a Rottweiler, Ridgeback, PitBull, Doberman, German Shephard or whatever, they are all capable of inflicting very serious injuries and therefore need to be trained, socialized and not left to roam free in packs causing chaos in the villages.

 

Focusing on the breed just reinforces lazy stereotypes and shifts blame from where it should be placed - The Owner.

 

 

Agree, mostly, with there are no bad pets, just bad owners. 

Although ... you do read the off stories of dog turning on owner / child, when it was so protective and obedient in the past.   Rare but does happen, and always the 'headliner' breeds making the news of any incident.  Survey (USA) says ... Poodles bite the most people.

 

My dogs have always not liked people I don't like, without encouragement.  Would never snap at a family member, but possibly a stranger if not knowing how to approach a dog. 

 

I also encouraged all my dogs, not to trust strangers, so need to be a bit more responsible when we are around strangers.  Present best friend is a Jack Russell mix, and doubtful she would harm anyone, aside from a snap or 2, if you encroached her space.

 

 

59 minutes ago, webfact said:

said he is prepared to go to prison if pressed for more.

Ok give him 10 years , time to mull over what a nasty person he is,

regards Worgeordie

If that was my boy the dogs would be dead by now .....  and his house mysteriously burnt to the ground.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

When will people learn that it's nothing to do with the breed? It is how they are raised. Whether it's a Rottweiler, Ridgeback, PitBull, Doberman, German Shephard or whatever, they are all capable of inflicting very serious injuries and therefore need to be trained, socialized and not left to roam free in packs causing chaos in the villages.

 

Focusing on the breed just reinforces lazy stereotypes and shifts blame from where it should be placed - The Owner.

 

 

Every owner will vouch that their Rottweiler and other aggressive dogs are well trained and good nature until incident like this happened. There must be good reasons why certain countries banned entry of these aggressive dogs and those already in the country have very strict rules on keeping them like need to be on the lead and muzzled. Thailand must review those laws on keeping such kind of dogs as incidents like this has been re-occurring too often and little legal recourse for the victims. 

Rottweilers, and many other large dogs, are a potential dangerous weapon if not confined or controlled. This case is yet another example.

Irresponsible dog owners are the biggest problem.

 

Of course the American Rottweiler Club is going to sing the praises of their breed! Doh!

When the courts and police refuse to compel someone like this to act responsibly and man up, sometimes people have to take things into their own hands. Being a doormat and allowing someone to treat you like a dog, after their out of control animal nearly destroyed your son, is no way to live.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

When will people learn that it's nothing to do with the breed? It is how they are raised. Whether it's a Rottweiler, Ridgeback, PitBull, Doberman, German Shephard or whatever, they are all capable of inflicting very serious injuries and therefore need to be trained, socialized and not left to roam free in packs causing chaos in the villages.

 

Focusing on the breed just reinforces lazy stereotypes and shifts blame from where it should be placed - The Owner.

 

 

 

The statistics say otherwise:

 

https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

 

Top 10 Most Fatal Dog Breeds Table

Breed	Deaths	% of Total
Pit bull	284	65.6%
Rottweiler	45	10.4%
German shepherd	20	4.6%
Mixed-breed	17	3.9%
American bulldog	15	3.5%
Mastiff/Bullmastiff	14	3.2%
Husky	13	3.0%
Unknown/unreleased	11	2.5%
Labrador retriever	9	2.1%
Boxer	7	1.6%

1 minute ago, ohno said:

 

The statistics say otherwise:

 

https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

 

Top 10 Most Fatal Dog Breeds Table

Breed	Deaths	% of Total
Pit bull	284	65.6%
Rottweiler	45	10.4%
German shepherd	20	4.6%
Mixed-breed	17	3.9%
American bulldog	15	3.5%
Mastiff/Bullmastiff	14	3.2%
Husky	13	3.0%
Unknown/unreleased	11	2.5%
Labrador retriever	9	2.1%
Boxer	7	1.6%

Wouldn't argue with that......only qualification would be, how does this relate to the populations of each dog?......it might show that the top two, in particular, are even more aggressive than the table suggests, if total ownership is low, yet the number of deaths is still disproportionately high.

In many countries, depends the breed, you need an insurance for this kind of things... I had a pitbull and by law an insurance for this dog.

1 minute ago, Joseph98765 said:

In many countries, depends the breed, you need an insurance for this kind of things... I had a pitbull and by law an insurance for this dog.

Does that stop them savaging kids I wonder?

Just now, Will B Good said:

Does that stop them savaging kids I wonder?

No, but at least covers the hospital for the kid...that the father shoudn't pay

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Does that stop them savaging kids I wonder?

Like a car.... does the insurance stop freaking Thais killing others on the road? 5555

1 hour ago, ohno said:

 

The statistics say otherwise:

 

https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

 

Top 10 Most Fatal Dog Breeds Table

Breed	Deaths	% of Total
Pit bull	284	65.6%
Rottweiler	45	10.4%
German shepherd	20	4.6%
Mixed-breed	17	3.9%
American bulldog	15	3.5%
Mastiff/Bullmastiff	14	3.2%
Husky	13	3.0%
Unknown/unreleased	11	2.5%
Labrador retriever	9	2.1%
Boxer	7	1.6%

Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Those statistics could just as easily be attributed to the demographics of the owners (certain dogs become fashionable or useful to criminals, drug dealers etc.) and the physical strength of the dogs in question, rather than the nature or temperament of the dogs. Of course Mastiffs and Rottweilers will have a higher number of fatal attacks than a Chihuahua because a Chihuahua is virtually incapable of killing a human. It doesn't mean they have an inherently better nature. 

 

It's like saying that if Black people are over represented in prison then it is because there is something inherently bad with black people, instead of looking at factors such as their social economic status, their level of education, higher proportion of absent fathers etc.

 

Your analysis of the statistics is overly simplistic and lacks any kind of nuance. It's lazy and just reinforces the classic stereotypes. 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

But since the agreement was made the dogs' owner has said he is only prepared to pay 200,000 baht and said he is prepared to go to prison if pressed for more.

I'd be quite happy to accept the deal where he stays in prison until he pays it.

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

....and to add to this......many owners are more than happy to encourage a vicious streak in their dogs........it adds to their macho image.

 

I worked in a band with a drummer who would get himself and his friends in a circle, surrounding his german shepherd puppy.  They would kick it repeatedly to get it to behave "tough." Sick people out there.

Just waiting for some dog lover to tell us it was the kid's fault. . .

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

This kind of dog, in particular, should never be off their leads in public and should always wear a collar.

 

The few times I have encountered rottweilers they have come across as vicious and uncontrollable.

Ex Dutch GF had one, walked around free on the farm. I was not allowed to touch her when he was near. That was one scarey dog. But he was nice too after a while he was ok with me petting him.

 

But such a dog can do enormous damage so they should really be kept away from the public. I don't even want to think about what it could have done to me. 

 

I had a Bangkaew dog in Thailand, sweet dog (but they are supposed to be aggressive) Though the only one he ever was aggressive too was me. (if i took his food). But he was 25kg and I am sure i could have been able to overpower him. Not so much with the 50+kg rottweiler not weithout sustaining some serious damage myself.

 

I like dogs even rottweilers but i see the potential damage they can do. 

Unbelievable all the people who complain about those dog breed. According to the statistic Bla Bla Bla. Honestly 45 people died by rottweiler? 45? Yeah it's bad and should not happen and I would be more than angry if it would happen to my family. But how many people get killed by other people in Thailand daily? Should all Thais get killed now? I don't think so and nobody really thinks about that. But yeah dogs are all bad when belong to a certain breed... Come on, wake up. I have a rottweiler and we have kids. Yes he is protective so what. I never heard anyone complaining that rottweiler are used by the police. Again, it's always the owners and not the dog. A small dog is easy able to bite a kids neck and can cause serious injury too. My wife is scared of snakes and snakes kill more people every year than any dog does, so we should kill all snakes now... ????

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Those statistics could just as easily be attributed to the demographics of the owners (certain dogs become fashionable or useful to criminals, drug dealers etc.) and the physical strength of the dogs in question, rather than the nature or temperament of the dogs. Of course Mastiffs and Rottweilers will have a higher number of fatal attacks than a Chihuahua because a Chihuahua is virtually incapable of killing a human. It doesn't mean they have an inherently better nature. 

 

It's like saying that if Black people are over represented in prison then it is because there is something inherently bad with black people, instead of looking at factors such as their social economic status, their level of education, higher proportion of absent fathers etc.

 

Your analysis of the statistics is overly simplistic and lacks any kind of nuance. It's lazy and just reinforces the classic stereotypes. 

Like you said these statistics say nothing because you need to know how many there are of each breed. Plus what you say is true it does not say anything about the nature of the dog. More that the dog is far more capable of doing damage. 

 

Would be more interesting to know how many dog attacks per breed, how many there are of said breed. Then you can judge nature of a dog. Also dog like pitbulls and rottweilers are often used by people who have no idea how to raise them. (I would not try to raise one that is for sure).

 

But the potential for a rottweiler to do damage is huge. My dog when he still lived started growling at a rottweiler that was walking without a leash and owner. I seriously thought my dog wanted to commit suicide.  Thankfully the rottweiler ignored my dog and went on her merry way. 

a simple police matter,jail,compensation and destruction of these animals,next time a death is obvious.do it now before its too late,if not its as stated and more suffering and eventuall the perpertrator will suffer ,im suprised he hasnt already

3 minutes ago, Danilo said:

Come on, wake up. I have a rottweiler and we have kids. Yes he is protective so what.

YOU wake up. . .