Selfish and useless

[pixelaoffy]

The selfish Drivers on dongtan beach Jomtien all along the footpath . Close to the Police station nearby that has no Interest in traffic law  breaking and no law enforcement ..useless

[richard_smith237]

This is one of the major is issues in Thailand... borne of an utter apathy by the police to enforce the laws... people do what they want when they want (i.e. park like this) then the sense of entitlement develops, they expect to park like this all the time....  No one does anything... 

 

Pedestrians are forced to walk on the road....    Its the same with motorcycles on the pavement, ‘someone’ even goes so far as to add a little concrete and build little ramps to ease access !!

 

Do those in positions of decision making power know ??? My guess is they care so little they hardly notice until something negative occurs and social media makes a big deal out of it...  they are then ‘forced’ to care, but briefly until the issue dies down. 

 

 

 

In this scenario, if you were looking for a spot to park and there was an available gap, what would you do???.... Personally, I’d park there, everyone else has...  And thats the issue, the authorities ‘enable’ antisocial traffic behaviour (and parking) by doing nothing about it - in this case they’ve pretty much designed the pavement to be parked one with the ‘ramped kerb stones’.... 

 

That said - is the side walk / pavement on the other side of the road clear to walk down ???

 

This is one of those... TiT issues...  not too much to take issue with, its just one of those things to shrug at... its Thailand after all. 

[Hummin]

It is is because of this chaos we have found our paradise for one or the other reason. If Thailand was a highly structured country, things had been different. 
 

We havevto accept the bad that comes with the good. Ying Yang ????????

 

Singapoor next ? 

[ripstanley]

Thai motorcycles riding down one way streets the wrong way, These are small soi but they do not care. Today my girlfriend was driving and stopped at a pedestrian crossing to allow people to cross. She had to wave them to cross before they would move. The system here is bad because lack of enforcement.  RTP pick up your game and not the bribes.

[nauseus]

25 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is is because of this chaos we have found our paradise for one or the other reason. If Thailand was a highly structured country, things had been different. 
 

We havevto accept the bad that comes with the good. Ying Yang ????????

 

Singapoor next ? 

No chance. Too expensive for most to own a private car. Now empty car parks becoming farms.

[Hummin]

Just now, nauseus said:

No chance. Too expensive for most to own a private car. Now empty car parks becoming farms.

At the same time there is many things I dislike about Thailand, there is unfortunate more things that still makes my life better in Thailand. 
 

I could not, or do not want to live in Singapoor, Japan or Usa even I at the moment could afford it, it doesnt give me the feeling of freedom I have in Thailand. 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

At the same time there is many things I dislike about Thailand, there is unfortunate more things that still makes my life better in Thailand. 
 

I could not, or do not want to live in Singapoor, Japan or Usa even I at the moment could afford it, it doesnt give me the feeling of freedom I have in Thailand. 

Right. So overall it is great then?

 

[newnative]

     It's the same thing on Pattaya Beach Road.  The city foolishly decided to allow parking on the beach side.   So, 3 lanes of traffic were reduced to 2 lanes.  But--surprise, surprise--people's behaviors did not change.  Drivers were used to stopping their vehicles in the left traffic lane and using it for parking as there were still 2 traffic lanes available.  So, delivery drivers parked in the traffic lane.  People running into 7-11 or other stores parked in the traffic lane.  Taxis waiting for customers, tour buses . . . 

      And, they still selfishly do--no change in behavior.  They'll park in the traffic lane even when a parking space is available a short distance away.  No, they must stop right in front of the store.  They cannot  walk any extra steps.   What was 3 lanes of traffic is often now at busy times down to just 1 lane--which often itself gets bogged down with drivers trying to parallel park or waiting for a car to leave on the beach side parking.  

[Hummin]

22 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Right. So overall it is great then?

 

There is no perfection in this world, but yes I like Thailand as long I'm able to keep the backdoor open for leaving if I want to. I'm semi retired by now, and what future brings, we have to wait and see. 

 

If Thailand turn out to be Spain or Florida for Indian and Chinese I might reconsider in future. 

[Lemsta69]

TIT. get over it as it's not going to change any time soon, regardless of how much you impotent farang huff and puff.

[champers]

The counter argument is: if you enforce the law and start clamping or towing away vehicles and fining their drivers, then they will not return to Pattaya and they will post on social media and deter others from coming too.

About 2 years ago cars parked on Pattaya Beach Rd were being penalised and this position was quickly reversed after much criticism online. Businesses on or near the beaches need customers at weekends and don't want them being scared off by the police.

A couple of park and ride schemes would make a positive difference to improve things for everybody, but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Not enough car parks either, or they are in the wrong places.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, newnative said:

 It's the same thing on Pattaya Beach Road.  The city foolishly decided to allow parking on the beach side.   So, 3 lanes of traffic were reduced to 2 lanes. 

That of course was to boost domestic tourism during the lean times of Covid.... no parking needs to be reintroduced now that things are picking up. Although it doesn't bother me as I stay away from those areas on holidays or long weekends. It is bad enough in the outskirts.  

[RichardColeman]

36 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

no parking needs to be reintroduced now that things are picking up.

I am quite sure the disabled and those pushing push-chairs would whole heartedly agree

[morrobay]

15 hours ago, Hummin said:

It is is because of this chaos we have found our paradise for one or the other reason. If Thailand was a highly structured country, things had been different. 
 

We havevto accept the bad that comes with the good. Ying Yang ????????

 

Singapoor next ? 

Enforcing traffic controls = Singapore?  = Strawman 

[jacko45k]

22 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I am quite sure the disabled and those pushing push-chairs would whole heartedly agree

Yes, they need space to use the promenade.....I love the way the parked vehicles block off the disabled transport... a good example can be seen on soi Yume, where a disabled lane from Father Ray's is always blocked.....

Perhaps the beachside lane would make a good disabled and cycling lane....

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by jacko45k

[morrobay]

44 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

That of course was to boost domestic tourism during the lean times of Covid.... no parking needs to be reintroduced now that things are picking up. Although it doesn't bother me as I stay away from those areas on holidays or long weekends. It is bad enough in the outskirts.  

Sure it's boosting domestic tourism - At the expense of foreign tourism. Like I've said before: July and August used to be mini high season along the beach with the Europeans. But after two consecutive "projects" along the beach they gave up. Now with the beach side (pickups parking) as well as lowlife locals on motorbikes on that glorified road , I mean promenade , the Europeans along the beach are long gone. Yesterday Sunday took songkow from North to South and walked beach from South to North. About 99% Thais.

[Guderian]

That road has been labelled as "Billionaire Street" so it's probably just the guy who owns the new 280 Million Baht villa there parking his 18th, 19th and 20th vehicles outside his place, lol. He can only fit his Bentley, three Porsches and seven Mercs actually on his property.

[PJ71]

27 minutes ago, Guderian said:

That road has been labelled as "Billionaire Street" so it's probably just the guy who owns the new 280 Million Baht villa there parking his 18th, 19th and 20th vehicles outside his place, lol. He can only fit his Bentley, three Porsches and seven Mercs actually on his property.

That's gonna be someone's house and not a fancy cafe like Glass house or similar?

 

How'd you know that?

 

It's some building.

[XGM]

22 hours ago, newnative said:

They'll park in the traffic lane even when a parking space is available a short distance away.  No, they must stop right in front of the store.  They cannot  walk any extra steps. 

Yeah, that one's driving me crazy. I can understand double parking if there's no choice. But when there's ample parking space perhaps 10-20 meters away... why?

[champers]

Isn't there a perfectly good and shaded footpath on the beach side of the road?

[Hummin]

8 hours ago, morrobay said:

Enforcing traffic controls = Singapore?  = Strawman 

?
 

I believe you take my post out of context

Edited August 1, 2022 by Hummin

[Doctor Tom]

On 7/31/2022 at 4:06 PM, richard_smith237 said:

borne of an utter apathy by the police to enforce the laws...

they are too lazy and useless to be  apathetic. That would take far too much energy. 

[Guderian]

8 hours ago, PJ71 said:

That's gonna be someone's house and not a fancy cafe like Glass house or similar?

 

How'd you know that?

 

It's some building.

Take look at the layout of the building and the awards that it's won, it's absolutely no use for anything other than a private residence.

[ripstanley]

It is amazing how many bikes and cars stop at a pedestrian crossing with a swinging closed umbrella

[Longreach]

in the morning the beach side footpath is in full sun. the other side footpath is in shade, good for walking.

[PJ71]

46 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Take look at the layout of the building and the awards that it's won

where?

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, XGM said:

Yeah, that one's driving me crazy. I can understand double parking if there's no choice. But when there's ample parking space perhaps 10-20 meters away... why?

Those 20m are inconvenient.......

Best is when hazard lights are used, just to reinforce they know they are wrong but do it anyhow, 

[Iamfalang]

On 7/31/2022 at 3:45 PM, pixelaoffy said:

The selfish Drivers on dongtan beach Jomtien all along the footpath . Close to the Police station nearby that has no Interest in traffic law  breaking and no law enforcement ..useless

another happy falang in LOS who demands law enforcement, traffic laws adhered to, and weirdly capitalizes and doesn't capitalize certain words.   

 

Seems like you are living in the most awful place on Earth.........since you are posting you must be terribly upset.   Deep breaths.   Control your breathing.   Relax, it's not your country.   Maybe write to your congressman and have them send it to your embassy.  They might   forward your complaint to the ambassador and onwards.....then you can really change the world!!!!  

Edited August 1, 2022 by Iamfalang

[Andre0720]

And quite strange that police does nothing about this, as this is the perfect type of law enforcement that they specialize in.

Which is any action that is easy, not dangerous to them, does not require chasing vehicles, etc.

Locking parked cars in old Phuket town. Locking motorbikes on the sidewalk in front of Robinson store, ganging up to feel safe on a main street collecting bahts when farangs do not wear a helmet.

All these actions have in common that it is easy to do, and that they do nothing to add security on the roads.

 

So yes, TIT means that if one came here to observe the beauty of Buddhism at work, one will be in for one heck of a surprise...

[Bangkok Barry]

Try walking in Bangkok. Most roads have no room for pedestrians because businesses, either food vendors or shops, block them. Or the roads have no pavements/sidewalks there at all. And those that do have a place for people to walk are often blocked by poorly placed obstacles like electricity poles or phone booths. I have a friend who has travelled the world in a wheelchair, and he said that Bangkok was by far the worst place he had been to for wheelchair users.