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Red Bull Heir Escapes Cocaine Charge, Only Reckless Driving Charge Left

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24 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Its always fun to see the self righteous and outraged  TVF  members getting their knickers in a twist over this story, 

I think most TVF members would be smart enough NOT to crash their Porsche into a police officer on a motorcycle in a drunken, cocaine fueled stupor in the first place!

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  • he comes and goes as he pleases.

  • When hasn't he been free?  Just more rampant  corruption in this banana republic. 

  • But this thread is not about the West or the rest of the world. It is about the "Boss" the Thai Red Bull heir and in Thailand escaping Thailand has nothing to do with lawyers, Its all about how much y

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Doubt if he cares on way or another if he comes back or not. 

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1 hour ago, seedy said:

You think it is different in the West ? 555

Money talks the world over. He who has the best lawyer wins, and this all comes down to $$$

I agree. It’s just that, here, they don’t try to hide it. 

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When it came up in my Inbox as "Red Bull Hei.......", I thought, "No they haven't actually ARRESTED him have they?" But surprise, surprise (NOT!) it was just another reminder that there is no intention whatsoever to bring this spoilt brat to justice. Sickening!

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1 hour ago, seedy said:

You think it is different in the West ? 555

Money talks the world over. He who has the best lawyer wins, and this all comes down to $$$

False equivalence. What of the high profile very rich names jailed in USA ? Epstein,Maxwell , CEO of VW etc. You may be able to afford good quality lawyers but they don’t necessarily mean acquittal.

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It is sad that the government is not in the least embarrassed. A huge loss of face.

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

 

It would be interesting to know the history of this change in the law in 2021. Seems a curious time to go soft on cocaine usage.

 

Not really a legal system here - I mean for those at the top, more of a joke really. I'm surprised they could find a deputy-deputy to drop this news.

 

The Statute of Limitations period should be pasued when the alleged criminal is out of the country on the run.

 

 

Stop it, you're talking too much common sense!!  

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56 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

TVF myth, I don't believe it.  Not one single photo of him in Thailand, not one.

And you think that the reason for that is due to the fact that he hasn't been here, or that the media have been "warned off"?

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Amazing how many people here seem to know and understand much more about this case than the average bystander.

58 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

TVF myth, I don't believe it.  Not one single photo of him in Thailand, not one.

Not seen a photo of him outside of Thailand for a few years either, no one knows which country he's hiding in, although obviously not Thailand

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1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

Its always fun to see the self righteous and outraged  TVF  members getting their knickers in a twist over this story, 

But I wonder, how many of you , if involved in a similar situation, and with similar wealth and options available. to you would actually behave any differently 

What has this to do with the corruption and total disregard of the value of human life or letter of the law which this case epitomises? Whether he or us would take advantage of the sickness in Thai society that allows this to happen is beside the point. What does matter is that he has mown down a policeman while off his head on stimulants then been allowed to evade the penalties of his actions, and been enabled to do so by the most corrupt of legal and government systems. The fact that Thais are not upset at the way this has played out is also an indictment on them. For a start, they could boycott Red Bull, but I bet every second taxi driver is swilling it down with not a care in the world for the evil creatures that produce the product.

9 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

Amazing how many people here seem to know and understand much more about this case than the average bystander.

What is this supposed to mean?

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not seen a photo of him outside of Thailand for a few years either, no one knows which country he's hiding in, although obviously not Thailand

"They seek him here - they seek him there .........."

Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour in The Scarlet Pimpernel (1982)

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2 hours ago, seedy said:

You think it is different in the West ? 555

Money talks the world over. He who has the best lawyer wins, and this all comes down to $$$

It may all come down to dollars but in Thailand there is a big difference - it's not good lawyers getting this guy off, its corruption and perversion of the law. This 'western countries are no better' excuse for Thailand's failure to apprehend and punish the man is simply nonsense that is dragged out by westerners who have forgotten that a legal system and consequences for the rich still exist back home. At least their cases are fought in court and if they fled overseas, I am sure an Interpol alert would fetch them home rather than being the joke that this one has become.

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2 hours ago, seedy said:

You think it is different in the West ? 555

Money talks the world over. He who has the best lawyer wins, and this all comes down to $$$

Although good lawyers can help, they dont always win.

However in a 'real' country he would have been arrested and passport taken.

Then when he obtained a false passport and left, a real country would have Interpol issue a Red notice.

But look what happened!

34 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

False equivalence. What of the high profile very rich names jailed in USA ? Epstein,Maxwell , CEO of VW etc. You may be able to afford good quality lawyers but they don’t necessarily mean acquittal.

every now and again a few sacrificial lambs are hung out to dry  It helps to mainyain the illusion  . One would have to be blind and retarded to think that nobody is above the law

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1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

 

But I wonder, how many of you , if involved in a similar situation, and with similar wealth and options available. to you would actually behave any differently 

I totally agree with you. I actually did it - here in Thailand (I broke the law but did not hurt anyone).
It cost me TB 1.1 Mio. but I just walked off.


However, in the West, I wouldn't have tried. Great lawyer or not.

THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. 

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In many countries you simply would be tried in court in absentia, if you don't show up you pretty much get convicted. There is no need to let it simply run out of time. Unless of course that was the plan.

1 minute ago, Robbie2618 said:

In many countries you simply would be tried in court in absentia, if you don't show up you pretty much get convicted. There is no need to let it simply run out of time. Unless of course that was the plan.

It was always the plan!

24 minutes ago, Spock said:

What has this to do with the corruption and total disregard of the value of human life or letter of the law which this case epitomises? Whether he or us would take advantage of the sickness in Thai society that allows this to happen is beside the point. What does matter is that he has mown down a policeman while off his head on stimulants then been allowed to evade the penalties of his actions, and been enabled to do so by the most corrupt of legal and government systems. The fact that Thais are not upset at the way this has played out is also an indictment on them. For a start, they could boycott Red Bull, but I bet every second taxi driver is swilling it down with not a care in the world for the evil creatures that produce the product.

with such terrible government and such a sickness in society how can you bear to live here?  If I took such offence at miscarriages of justice involving  people I don't know I would leave tomorrow .  But where would I go ?   its the same everywhere, just that some places are better at hiding it

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

with such terrible government and such a sickness in society how can you bear to live here?  If I took such offence at miscarriages of justice involving  people I don't know I would leave tomorrow .  But where would I go ?   its the same everywhere, just that some places are better at hiding it

How do you know some places are better at hiding it?

41 minutes ago, sambum said:

And you think that the reason for that is due to the fact that he hasn't been here, or that the media have been "warned off"?

He hasn't been here.  The mainstream media have nothing to do with it.  Somebody, somewhere, during one of these visits would have snapped a picture of him and leaked it.  He would be seen in a club, a bar, somewhere.  They wouldn't send it to the Bangkok Post.

It's impossible he could be here and absolutely not one image has surfaced.  Plus if his statute of limitations only has five years left why would he take the risk of trying to enter?

I am not saying he isn't living with impunity - he is.  He just isn't doing it in Thailand.

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2 hours ago, seedy said:

You think it is different in the West ? 555

Money talks the world over. He who has the best lawyer wins, and this all comes down to $$$

@ seedy:
I understand that your pride for a small part (justice system) of your wonderful country was hurt. I respect your feelings!


You are, however, defending a disgusting Thai legal system which is undefendable (I experienced that myself).
And NO, in the West, when caught and exposed by a free press and an independent judiciary, Ministers resign and Presidents are impeached and kicked out of the White House .... etc.
Justice is far from perfect in the (democratic) West, however, a lot better and safer than in most military dictatorships.
 

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If a defendant deliberately evades his trial by fleeing for many many years, there is no reason to allow him the benefits of the statute of limitations. A legally binding judgment - in the name of the people - should then also be possible in his absence.

 

The actual and original sense of the statute of limitations has been very twisted in Thai case law.

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:
3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You have anything to back up what you say, or did you just make it up based on nothing at all?

Do I have proveable facts, no.

Thanks for confirming @Bangkok Barry was right then.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How do you know some places are better at hiding it?

 I think its a racing certainty  of course you are free to disagree, maybe you can find one of your "links" to convince me otherwise

Just now, Bday Prang said:

 I think its a racing certainty  of course you are free to disagree, maybe you can find one of your "links" to convince me otherwise

No need you made the claim  not me

2 minutes ago, peterfranks said:

Thanks for confirming @Bangkok Barry was right then.

I'll tell K.Boss you are happy I confirmed.

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