1 minute ago, paul1804 said:

2am seems more than reasonable to me, a balance between common sense and responsible governing should prevail. Let the industry workers go home and sleep for at least some of the night when we are supposed to be sleeping!! Who really needs to drink all night, those are probably the tourist sector that we can do without. 

"All night"? Just because 7Eleven is open 24 hours per day doesn't mean I spend all my time there. I just go in, get what I need and leave. At my convenience. Surely the same would apply for a bar. Maybe I just finished a meal at 11:30 pm and want to visit a few bars, not primarily for drinking but to see if I can establish a rapport or some kind of fun connection with staff at these bars - or in the case of nightclubs, with other guests. It would be helpful if they didn't shut their doors just as I arrive. Full of food and sober as a judge. 

This Junta has been trying to remake Thailand ever since the took over the government by force.

 

People in the tourism industry have been amazed how quickly they have ruined it.  

 

So many inane rules and maneuvers that befuddle even the most blinded supporters of this Junta regime. 

3 hours ago, phetphet said:

Didn't they try that at Khao San Road? What happened there once they moved the stalls and brought it "upmarket"?

Honestly, looks very sterile.

 

Any street USA. 

 

 

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The success achieved so far by Thailand’s recovering industry is driven by visitors from traditional markets where the country’s nightlife and entertainment sectors have been proven

India?

8 hours ago, webfact said:

that plans to take the country’s tourism industry upmarket

I didn't know rich billionaires wanted 4 am opening of certain bars in seedy Sois ?

Just now, hotchilli said:

I didn't know rich billionaires wanted 4 am opening of certain bars in seedy Sois ?

Unless of course they own the Sois and looking forward to doubling the rents of the premises as trade returns.

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Last evening at about 1930 I walked up Soi 4 toward Sukhumvit. A guy came waddling out of Bangcockney, walked across Soi 6 where it meets Soi 4, pulled it out and began relieving himself on the outer wall of the Novotel. A service woman from the bar ran out and tried pulling the guy away from the wall, his trickle flying every which way. He began screaming incoherently at the woman.

 

Again, this was at 1930. I can only imagine what biological function he's dropping at 4am.

 

I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess that guy isn't the 'quality tourist' TAT had hoped to get.

You will always find drunken idiots in entertainment areas.

Just a shame that Thailand doesn't have a police force to ensure a semblance of order.

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

By 2am I pretty much don't care, EVERYONE is beautiful.

 

Even Lola.

Every hole is a goal, just need to make sure Lola leaves before morning.... Watching another  man take a sht and shave his face is not high on my bucket list.

"We'll take your down at heel tourists for now"

9 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Every hole is a goal, just need to make sure Lola leaves before morning.... Watching another  man take a sht and shave his face is not high on my bucket list.

But watching a woman take a sht and shave is about halfway up on that list? ????

9 hours ago, webfact said:

in a plan designed to increase tourism earnings and attract more western travellers from the country’s key foreign tourist markets.

Ought to target Germans who otherwise this winter are going to be desperately looking for firewood to keep warm.

The Thais have always wanted 'upmarket' visitors ie people with plenty of money who know how to behave. Their intentions have, however, not been realized ever since cheap flights became available some years ago.

Late 80s  I was drinking until about 0200hrs went out about 2000hrs 

Now days out at about 2000hrs  in bed by 2300hrs 

Need my beauty ???? 

I hate to put a damper of their enthusiasm, but in Europe there is a cost of living issue, a war in Ukraine which is impacting the world directly or indirectly. Tourism is not high on the list when family's are struggling.

2 hours ago, androokery said:

But watching a woman take a sht and shave is about halfway up on that list? ????

You never watch a sexy lady curl one out ?

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

A little consistency would be nice.

I think I read a couple of times they want high-class tourists.

Do they get more of those high-class tourists by allowing certain drugs and opening the bars until 4am?

 

IMHO lots of people in bars are drunk before 2am. After that they just get more drunk. Obviously, some people want that. And looking at some creatures at 6:30am, when I sometimes ride to the fresh market, they also succeed now to drink more and more and more. In general, I don't think that is good for Thailand.

 

 

 

I remember when Pattaya was open 24/7 and devoid of probems because of it. While many bars did close sometime early hours, between Marine disco and another nearby it was possible to party till after dawn, and there were always some drinkers in a bar on the way back to hotel.

 

Couple of gogos in Nana in the 90s were open till after dawn. I never lasted till closing as needed some sleep before they opened about 6 pm ( or perhaps 8 pm- getting forgetful ).

 

Those were happier days than in this century.

4 hours ago, paul1804 said:

2am seems more than reasonable to me, a balance between common sense and responsible governing should prevail. Let the industry workers go home and sleep for at least some of the night when we are supposed to be sleeping!! Who really needs to drink all night, those are probably the tourist sector that we can do without. 

It's not as though there wasn't all night opening back in the 90s. Worked well enough then.

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yes, it will! It will also end up with more restrictions on your happy life in Thailand. You still want them to fail in every way possible?

Yes

Nothing they do will affect me in any way.

8 hours ago, phetphet said:

Didn't they try that at Khao San Road? What happened there once they moved the stalls and brought it "upmarket"?

You think the filthy dump it was a few years back was better ?

It's only on a piece of paper and yet another plan of action!!!

4 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

This Junta has been trying to remake Thailand ever since the took over the government by force.

 

People in the tourism industry have been amazed how quickly they have ruined it.  

 

So many inane rules and maneuvers that befuddle even the most blinded supporters of this Junta regime. 

Junta regimes are never good for tourism.  Look what  happened to Myanmar and that happened practically overnight., It’s not 1950. Today everything that happens in these undemocratic countries is on all the internet , TV , newspapers , throughout the world. Everything these so called leaders do is well published, Google is your friend. Some would be surprised at what you can find out.

Thailand before:

 

Thailand after:

 

The great reset, the new normal... all that you know?

 

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

The Thais have always wanted 'upmarket' visitors ie people with plenty of money who know how to behave. Their intentions have, however, not been realized ever since cheap flights became available some years ago.

If only Thailand was a high class destination! 

Dear doom and gloom brigade,

The bars have been open until 04:00 for weeks already.

The authorities within Thailand are living in a state of delusion. You don't just create an upmarket destination, purely as a result of wishful thinking. There are a dozen valid reasons why most wealthy tourists AVOID Thailand. No discussion of the sacrifices needed to attract wealthy tourists. No discussion of lowering luxury taxes, improving transport options, or increasing public safety. 

 

These bottom of the barrel guys like Phiphat and Anutin are living in a parallel universe. Their wealth seems to prevent them from having anything even approaching a clear vision. They are suffering from total delusion. 

 

Most people come to Thailand due to the economics. If it gets expensive enough, it ceases to appeal to the vast majority of tourists. Thailand is not Monte Carlo and it will never be an upscale destination. Never. 

Thailand is not "upmarket" (whatever that means). Never has been, never can be. And that's all there is to it. 

with reference to late night opening. I can member getting on my bike after leaving the bars at 2 or 2.30 and going to Tesco for some late night shopping.

Can hardly attain an upmarket pursuit when the overwhelming percentage of tourists are of a low-class character.

Just an observation.

1 minute ago, zzaa09 said:

Can hardly attain an upmarket pursuit when the overwhelming percentage of tourists are of a low-class character.

Just an observation.

The majority of tourists would not be out in a bar/club/pub at midnight let alone 4am.

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

I am confused, that would be a high price here, and should command a reasonable looker. 

for 5k and hour she'd wanna be laying pure gold turds on my chest.