NY grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump, sources tell CNN

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, still kicking said:

Trump ‘shocked’ by long list of charges

Donald Trump indictment: Former president was shocked, attorney says | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

I suspect he’s surrounded by people who tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear.

 

 

[BobBKK]

28 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

A political problem? Your trying to say this is not a violation of using campaign finances and violating laws in order to bribe someone.  Really? On what planet do you live sir.

 

Ethics aside, which Trump has none to speak of, anyone else doing what he did would do time. Wait Cohen already did....and .....quite a few others.

it wasn't campaign finances - please live on the same planet sir

[Phoenix Rising]

55 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

To try to get a jury to believe a payment is a political problem is absurd. 

Oh dear, you REALLY have no clue what this case is about, do you. Let me put this in as plain a language as I possibly can;

A jury will reach a verdict on whether trump committed any crimes or not.

Did you get that?

 

Donald Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury on more than 30 counts related to business fraud

Edited April 1, 2023 by Phoenix Rising

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

it wasn't campaign finances - please live on the same planet sir

Isn't that yet to be established?

 

"The Journal’s reports on the payments to Ms. McDougal and Ms. Daniels prompted the U.S. attorney’s office to expand the investigation to include potential criminal campaign-finance violations"

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/a-history-of-the-trump-hush-money-saga-fe5cac3c

 

[ThailandRyan]

38 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

it wasn't campaign finances - please live on the same planet sir

Try Again

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-stormy-daniels-hush-money-indictment_n_640f5b35e4b0fef1523fa996

 

One of his lawyers at the time, Cohen, already pleaded guilty to a federal charge of violating campaign finance laws with the check to Stormy Daniels to buy her silence about the affair she says she had with Trump in 2006. Cohen served 13 months in prison and another year and a half under home confinement for that and various unrelated charges.

[Skallywag]

Until the indictment charges are opened next week no one knows what the charges are.  This flim flam real estate, reality TV guy has made it 76 years without ever being indicted.

He will finally have to face an actual jury of his peers for the FIRST time.

No one knows how this will end, but likely because of his narcissistic and limited knowledge of anything legal or constitutional, he will go down screeming and yelling as he will have no way to lie his way out of this one..

And then there is the Georgia case, the stolen documents case, the inciting of the riot on January 6.  

45 will be spending a lot of time in court over the next couple of years

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Until the indictment charges are opened next week no one knows what the charges are.  This flim flam real estate, reality TV guy has made it 76 years without ever being indicted.

He will finally have to face an actual jury of his peers for the FIRST time.

No one knows how this will end, but likely because of his narcissistic and limited knowledge of anything legal or constitutional, he will go down screeming and yelling as he will have no way to lie his way out of this one..

And then there is the Georgia case, the stolen documents case, the inciting of the riot on January 6.  

45 will be spending a lot of time in court over the next couple of years

In court or under house arrest instead of on the campaign trail trying to instigate another Jefferson Davis style of secession.....

 

https://www.rawstory.com/can-rebellion-be-too-big-to-fail-reflections-on-jefferson-davis-and-trump/

 

At first glance, Trump seems completely unique. No one else has dared to overthrow an election and seize ruling power. No one except Jefferson Davis, who tried to use violence to overturn the election of Abraham Lincoln. Davis was not just the nineteenth century version of a crank on the internet. He had far more political experience than virtually anyone of his time. 

[candide]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

And Jared Kushner did not get Millions from the Saudis? Your out on a tiny limb that's going to break....

Actually, it was billions.  So about 1000 times what Hunter received.

 

That's a reasonable amount for corruption at the WH level. The MAGA folks don't even realise that a few millions are absolutely peanuts and not worth becoming corrupt for it

[jerrymahoney]

27 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

He will finally have to face an actual jury of his peers for the FIRST time.

His jury of his peers in New York City which went about 75% against him 2020 election.

 

Theses days his peer-group is more likely in western Kansas.

[billd766]

9 hours ago, talahtnut said:

The case has been thrown out of the Federal Court, and

will go to a minor court.

This pathetic democrat attempt to foil Trump will

provide an election landslide for Trump.

Really?

 

Do you have any links or proof of that?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

it wasn't campaign finances - please live on the same planet sir

I take it you’ve seen the indictment(s).

 

Please do share.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Yet you don't mention Biden or his coke filled son?  power corrupts and I'm pretty sure they are all corrupt if they pick on Trump all Hell will break loose and he will be acquitted anyway  

Oh dear.

 

Where is your proof?

[jerrymahoney]

How Alvin Bragg resurrected the case against Donald Trump

 

NEW YORK — One year ago this week, the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald Trump appeared to be dead in the water.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/how-alvin-bragg-resurrected-the-case-against-donald-trump/

 

March 31, 2023 

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Yet you don't mention Biden or his coke filled son?  power corrupts and I'm pretty sure they are all corrupt if they pick on Trump all Hell will break loose and he will be acquitted anyway  

Biden and his son Hunter are utter neophytes compared to the crime lord. Then again, they don't have five decades of practice, in the art of the swindle, nor the art of taking small contractors for all they are worth. 

 

Granted, nearly all politicians at the national level are crooks. The difference is Trump re-defined what it means to be a crook. He took it to a whole different level. 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suspect he’s surrounded by people who tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear.

 

 

Another reason he can relate to dictators like Putin so well.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

Really?

 

Do you have any links or proof of that?

Trumpist echo chamber

[candide]

More fun! This is going to be good! ????

 

Trump Rages at Hush-Money Indictment in Misspelled Truth Social Rant

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rages-hush-money-indictment-225830404.html

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, candide said:

More fun! This is going to be good! ????

 

Trump Rages at Hush-Money Indictment in Misspelled Truth Social Rant

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rages-hush-money-indictment-225830404.html

Yes Sir, he is raging and sputtering not only in his speech but in his writing, while still trying to raise the spectre of him being demonized....what a whiny little baby the man is.

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, candide said:

More fun! This is going to be good! ????

 

Trump Rages at Hush-Money Indictment in Misspelled Truth Social Rant

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rages-hush-money-indictment-225830404.html

Another missive from Trump replete with accusations that are in fact confessions.

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

His jury of his peers in New York City which went about 75% against him 2020 election.

 

Theses days his peer-group is more likely in western Kansas.

There's a difference between peers and cult followers.  However it would be difficult to find a jury of self-proclaimed billionaires with murky finances.

[scottiejohn]

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

However it would be difficult to find a jury of self-proclaimed billionaires with murky finances.

I though the USA was full of them!

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/31/2023 at 7:15 PM, spidermike007 said:

So far, they seem to pertain only to the potentially weakest area, and that is the Stormy hush money. It is a huge strategic error in my opinion. Either that, or it is a deliberate way to get around having to convict the crime lord. 

Not an error IMO. Far as I'm concerned it's all just about stopping Trump standing for election. They've tried all the big things like being on Putin's payroll etc and failed dismally, so now they are going for anything that will eliminate him from contention.

 

IMO they must be terrified of even the possibility that Trump gets elected, and it's no wonder that so many millions of people in the US hate Washington.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, billd766 said:

Oh dear.

 

Where is your proof?

Obviously I can't give you a link about something that hasn't happened yet, but IMO there will be unintended consequences if Trump should be convicted.

 

The security for just the appearance next week is apparently going to be massive, and that's not even the trial.

New York may yet come to regret starting this event when so many hate those that are against Trump.

 

I'm amazed that the media are even staking out positions yesterday and it's not happening till Tuesday. I guess they are counting on some strife occurring to make it worthwhile.

[LaosLover]

Tucker said: "people pay off people to buy their silence all of the time".

 

True in your experience?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

Tucker said: "people pay off people to buy their silence all of the time".

 

True in your experience?

How many on here would be in the sort of circles that that sort of garbage goes on to know?

[LaosLover]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

New York may yet come to regret starting this event when so many hate those that are against Trump.

 

I used to live downtown. It's a lot of narrow streets. Riot-wise, far inferior to the open space around the Capitol. Plus the NYPD is a much superior police force than Washington DC. Barriers are in place, contingencies have been planned. 

 

On the other side, the last riot was to "save democracy". Trump getting a fine? Much less urgent. Not to mention his followers having seen what happens when you touch the very hot stove of federal charges.

 

Uptick for his fans. Their beloved Shamen has been released from jail early for being a model prisoner. He says he's very sorry for what he did and was duped.

Edited April 2, 2023 by LaosLover

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, LaosLover said:

Uptick for his fans. Their beloved Shamen has been released from jail early for being a model prisoner. He says he's very sorry for what he did and was duped.

Does anyone take a man that wears horns seriously?

 

Did he actually do anything bad other than run around shouting? If he did it must have been off camera, as I didn't see it.

[LaosLover]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How many on here would be in the sort of circles that that sort of garbage goes on to know?

Tucker said at all levels people do this. I disagree. So I'm guessing your answer is no, you never heard of this happening. Hey, me neither.

 

He also said that there's no way Biden could have gotten more votes than "crowd surfer superstar Obama".

 

No record of Obama ever having crowd surfed. It doesn't even make sense; would his secret service detail allow it? 

 

Tucker makes stuff up whole cloth. His low info audience loves it. They're happy to check their brains at the door to enjoy the bracing oomph of a bit of made up in the shower righteous indignation.

[jerrymahoney]

43 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

However it would be difficult to find a jury of self-proclaimed billionaires with murky finances.

I though the USA was full of them!

In the context of jury selection, "peers" is mostly a matter of geography. Whatever crimes Mr. Trump is eventually charged with, they took place in New York City at the Trump offices; not in western Kansas where many counties voted 90% for Trump in 2020.

Edited April 2, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[LaosLover]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does anyone take a man that wears horns seriously?

 

Did he actually do anything bad other than run around shouting? If he did it must have been off camera, as I didn't see it.

Google image provides some funny pics of furry hat wearing imitators.

 

Next up: "The Maga Shaman -now available for children's parties."

 

Man, look at the jobs available on a we hire felons website. Lots of warehouse work, a bit to ditch digging. I guess he can let his gym membership lapse now due to his new career horizons.

 

The definition of a chump. He agrees, as a self-described dupe.