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Great idea.

I switched to cans years ago. Unfortunately, not all beers are available in cans.

But bottles of single malt scotch whisky?  Changing that is a no no.????

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1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach.

I don't recall the last time I was at a beach (or a pool) that allowed glass containers, for that very reason. 

 

I do recall the 6th grade when I stepped on some broken glass in the water and badly slit my foot.

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53 minutes ago, 2long said:

So how do people now drink a 'large' beer?

Foster's solved that problem nicely. With their 10w40 cans.

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3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Why is it a great idea ?

 

Glass bottles are not polluting and fully recyclable... 

Cans have a plastic lining.

 

 

I'd guess that weight and volume are factors, as all recyclables have to be transported off the island.

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4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:
4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. 

The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... 

Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach.

No one ever cut themselves on a torn open beer can, or a sharp fragmented shell ?

 

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24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

No one ever cut themselves on a torn open beer can, or a sharp fragmented shell ?

 

No, never.   To use the words of someone earlier in the thread  (can't be ar_sed to check who) that's a "preposterous, irrational and utterly illogical" idea!

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4 hours ago, 2long said:

So how do people now drink a 'large' beer?

Local Somchais all around the country like large bottles of Leo or Chang.

I can see where this idea is coming from, but surely there are other ways of improving the situation.

Not many Somchais on Koh Tao.

Mostly Burmese, foreigners living/working there and tourists.

All garbage on Koh Tao (and the other nearby islands) has to be taken to the mainland by boat.

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9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Why is it a great idea ?

 

Because  Pinsak Suraswadis brother has just opened a can re cycling plant.

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12 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Cans compact down. So it is easier to put them into garbage bags for the recycle collectors. Also, many more in a bag.

The collectors that make a living from collecting the recycle items make more money than with glass bottles. (So they told me.)

They prefer cans. Lighter to carry, easier to carry and do not break and cause damage. Broken bottles mixed up with the garbage are very nasty.

The bottles only make money when they are in the original box and can be returned to the brewery. Again, so I was informed.

Broken glass bottles are very dangerous pollution. Not all recycling places will take bottles. So they are not fully recyclable. They will all buy cans.

These comments are based on living in Samui. All of our garbage is shipped to the mainland. Eventually.

Have they never heard of a bottle bank?

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I would start with some clean up among all those unsolved murder cases ..... might be more effective than glass and aluminium together. Latter is definitely the poorer choice as far as environment issues are concerned and many beer drinkers might agree to the fact, that a beer from a can tastes not as good as from a bottle ......... 

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20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Isn't this upside down ???

 

Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. 

The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... 

 

The logic behind this is preposterous, it is perhaps only vaguely understandable how some such policy can be put place after living here and seeing the irrational and utterly illogical decisions take effect.

 

Even can's have plastic inside them....   

 

 

 

 

Great post, but please do not try logically explaining greenness. It is feelings and virtue over fact.

Koh Tao has problems. Glass bottles are somewhere near the bottom of the list in terms of seriousness.

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