Bristol backpacker in bar brawl bloodbath: Brit stabbed in neck in Koh Pha Ngan

[FritsSikkink]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

Also, having this sort of cash on hand is suspicious, and knowing how to work the payment angle may indicate some experience in this department.

Where does it state that the offer was in cash? 

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

Also, having this sort of cash on hand is suspicious, and knowing how to work the payment angle may indicate some experience in this department.

 

That sounded suspicious to me as well.  I suspect they took his passport and told him to go arrange the funds.  Or perhaps just warned him he was on the no fly list until he arranged the funds.

 

[Seppius]

Some pictures on FB, search  Eliran Alias, wound looks bad

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, Nordic summer said:

It also says he was offered 100 000 Euro to drop the case. 

Wonder if the local police were offered something as well.

 

This is surely a criminal case, no ??

 

The victim can drop compensation claims settling for xx amount... But surely the Police have a duty to continue criminal charges regardless of what the victim wants or agrees to.

 

 

[foreverlomsak]

5 hours ago, Nordic summer said:

It also says he was offered 100 000 Euro to drop the case. 

Wonder if the local police were offered something as well.

Money for Mooney

[Morch]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Where does it state that the offer was in cash? 

 

Because, as I understand it from similar past reports, that's how it's done.

Doubt anyone would accept a cashier's check from someone who just stabbed them....

Also, as there are time constraints, money transfers etc. seem a bit of a problem.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That sounded suspicious to me as well.  I suspect they took his passport and told him to go arrange the funds.  Or perhaps just warned him he was on the no fly list until he arranged the funds.

 

 

Could be many things. Maybe he's got Israeli friends around who can fork/loan. If they took his passport then dealing with banks here could be a problem, so goes back to source of funds maybe not 100% legit.

[Morch]

25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

This is surely a criminal case, no ??

 

The victim can drop compensation claims settling for xx amount... But surely the Police have a duty to continue criminal charges regardless of what the victim wants or agrees to.

 

 

 

Surely....

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Where does it state that the offer was in cash? 

 

Because, as I understand it from similar past reports, that's how it's done.

Doubt anyone would accept a cashier's check from someone who just stabbed them....

Also, as there are time constraints, money transfers etc. seem a bit of a problem.

 

It is a bit odd that the 'money was negotiated in Euro'...      IF its going to be in Cash, how does one get 100,000 Euro in Thailand... 

 

Or, has 3 Million Baht been negotiated, and the UK media converted that, and then the Thai Media (Thaiger) runs with the Euro amount....

 

 

As the IP - I wouldn't trust any promise of compensation to drop compensation claims until money was in the bank - Personally, for 3 Million Baht - I'd sooner see the vermin in Prison.

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

Could be many things. Maybe he's got Israeli friends around who can fork/loan. If they took his passport then dealing with banks here could be a problem, so goes back to source of funds maybe not 100% legit.

 

Good point - 'surely' he'd need his passport for any Bank dealings.... (cash withdrawal etc)...   BiB must be dead keen on this one... they'll have to escort someone taking a load of cash out of the bank...   'one for me, one for you.......'

[shackleton]

Well no surprises on the Thai police getting involved in bribe payments 

Plus the Israeli guy not being jailed obviously knows people in high places 

Money counts for a lot here In sorting out trouble 🤑

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Lopburikid said:

It is very common in Thailand (and other SE Asian countries) for compensation to be offered to victims. In large sums of money for cases to be solved. I believe the local RTP take 10% or more for negotiating fee.

I never heard of that, and I was in Thailand a very long time.

 

IMO the point that everyone has missed is WHO is offering the money? I'm pretty sure the cops won't be, nor TAT.

 

For those slagging Thailand off, it wasn't a Thai that did the deed and such is probably not uncommon in certain western countries.

 

Anyway, what is an israeli with skills doing in Thailand and not dealing to unarmed Palestinian children in Gaza?

[Andrew65]

5 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

Really Einstein? 

"No s--t Sherlock!"😁

[metisdead]

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[Wuvu2]

6 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

9 hours ago, webfact said:

British backpacker from Bristol

 

Is this not just another case of rampant alliteration on TV?

 

Here is what I am talking about: Bristol backpacker in bar brawl bloodbath: Brit 

 

Shouldn't there be some rule against posting such blatant alliteration on this forum?

Glorious Goblty Goop from GamaGlobulin 😉  

[Quit]

Mistook him for a Palestinian.

 

By the way, it took me 3 Minutes to type this, as I have to watch and close huge annoying ads for days now.

[Morch]

Say he takes the money. It's all over the news - how does it work going out of Thailand with the cash, or entering the UK?

[uttradit]

3 hours ago, stix40 said:

Sounds like these boy's cannot handle a few shandys ! 

Guys with ponytails and elephants on their pants couldn't beat a ladyboy in a fight.

[uttradit]

10 minutes ago, Morch said:

Say he takes the money. It's all over the news - how does it work going out of Thailand with the cash, or entering the UK?

Up up us10k or declare it.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, uttradit said:

Up up us10k or declare it.

 

Declare it as what? Payoff money?

[uttradit]

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Declare it as what? Payoff money?

You normally have to declare cash over $10k. They don't want bank robbers and druggies taking large sums. Just say you were a crime victim, here's the paperwork. I got paid out. No problem.

[ChaiyaTH]

This happened like 1 week ago, the guy apparently also tried to set his ex girlfriend on fire back home in Israel.

[ChaiyaTH]

6 hours ago, Thonburi-tales said:

3 million baht bribe ????

Where would a backpacker get 3 million baht.

Sounds like total BS.

The Israeli might have paid 100k b to get released then go straight to a border crossing.  Done.

Why would he give money to some drunken British pub knob?

 

A simple bungalow on phangan costs like 40K a month nowadays, the days of cheap backpackers there is long gone. Just on the full moon party itself for 2 days only. There is a lot of rich israeli's on that island who also buy and rent villa's etc.

[it is what it is]

6 hours ago, Thonburi-tales said:

3 million baht bribe ????

Where would a backpacker get 3 million baht.

Sounds like total BS.

The Israeli might have paid 100k b to get released then go straight to a border crossing.  Done.

Why would he give money to some drunken British pub knob?

 

 

that's so funny and uninformed. 25 years ago i went backpacking around the word for 3 years after working in in the City for 15 years, don't assume backpackers don't have money. it's a lifestyle choice and an amazing way to see the world and experience different countries and cultures.

[soi3eddie]

 

The British guy, from the sound of the story, was very lucky that the Canadian doctor was on the scene. Could have been a fatal outcome. 

 

As for the reason for the altercation, after alcohol, the unwanted attention for the lady, and likely a fair amount of bravado, it's easy to see how situations can escalate into this. One never knows how unhinged another guy can get, especially if his advances (albeit on another guy's girl) are rejected in public.

 

As an aside; my GF and I stopped overnight in downtown Bristol on a Saturday last summer. We went out for dinner and some drinks at the bars. We were both quite shocked at the large number of marauding gangs of hen/stag partys on the streets. Virtually every pub/bar had heavy security on the doors. That's not something I see in London or here in Bangkok. Somewhat unpleasant unfortunately.

 

[Bundooman]

6 hours ago, Thonburi-tales said:

3 million baht bribe ????

Where would a backpacker get 3 million baht.

Sounds like total BS.

The Israeli might have paid 100k b to get released then go straight to a border crossing.  Done.

Why would he give money to some drunken British pub knob?

 

Please enlighten us about this guy being a 'drunken pub knob'. I read the article and it doesn't appear anywhere in the article.

you're letting your prejudices get the better of you,  who, incidentally, has an outstanding '4' posts to his name.

I wonder where you are from  - one of the Brit-bashing countries by any chance?

Or are you an old brit here on your dole money?

[Morch]

45 minutes ago, uttradit said:

You normally have to declare cash over $10k. They don't want bank robbers and druggies taking large sums. Just say you were a crime victim, here's the paperwork. I got paid out. No problem.

 

I doubt it's anything as straightforward.

[Seppius]

29 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

 

The British guy, from the sound of the story, was very lucky that the Canadian doctor was on the scene. Could have been a fatal outcome. 

 

As for the reason for the altercation, after alcohol, the unwanted attention for the lady, and likely a fair amount of bravado, it's easy to see how situations can escalate into this. One never knows how unhinged another guy can get, especially if his advances (albeit on another guy's girl) are rejected in public.

 

As an aside; my GF and I stopped overnight in downtown Bristol on a Saturday last summer. We went out for dinner and some drinks at the bars. We were both quite shocked at the large number of marauding gangs of hen/stag partys on the streets. Virtually every pub/bar had heavy security on the doors. That's not something I see in London or here in Bangkok. Somewhat unpleasant unfortunately.

 

Normal these days in just about every city in the UK on a Saturday night, except London as you say, but even there in certain areas it's the same. Shoreditch I would say is one

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Is this not just another case of rampant alliteration on TV?

Complain to The Thaiger, not AN.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, findlay13 said:

apprehended but later released on bail," WTF? Attempted murder out on Bail!

Can happen in most judicial jurisdictions, it is not peculiar to Thailand.