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Phuket Fines 17,000 Tourists for Unlicensed Driving

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16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Between August 1 and 22, the police recorded a startling 1,423 cases of unlicensed driving and 172 instances of helmetless riding, totalling 1,769 offences in just three weeks. 

 

 


My math might be off, but 1,423 + 172 = 1,595...not 1,769

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    At last a good news : only 2261 Thai nationals were driving without a licence in Phuket. And all of them were wearing helmets. Well done BIB !

  • In advanced countries, tourists without a license would be turned away when they even tried to rent one.   TBH, I have some sympathy for tourists who figure it must be legal since the rental

  • Fines should be handed out  to all the motor cycle rental companies. Who have enabled this to happen in the first place. But we all know. T.I.T.   

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4 minutes ago, Olof Karlsson said:

This shows very clear how corrupt the traffic police is. And 173 drivers without helmet in only 3 weeks🤣I can find 173 drivers without helmet in Hua Hin in 30 minutes,and most of them are thai,not farang.

Shhh...we don't want the Hua Hin police cracking down...

Offenses to be especially aware of in 2024

In 2024, the police have increased traffic controls and are strictly enforcing road safety rules. Here are the offenses that they are particularly focusing on:

  • Driving against the flow of traffic: Previously, the police were lenient about driving against the flow of traffic, but now even Thai nationals are being penalized for this offense. Always ensure you are driving in the correct direction to avoid a fine.
  • Parking in prohibited areas: Pay close attention to the color of the curb and the road signs, which indicate where parking is not allowed. Fines for violating parking rules are becoming more common.
  • Unauthorized removal of a police lock: Removing a police lock (chain with a padlock) from a parked vehicle is considered a criminal offense for damaging government property. The penalty for this offense ranges from 5000 THB to several months in prison.

https://phuket-garage.com/road-fines-in-thailand/

X 1000 bht =17 million 

Big brown envelopes only getting bigger

Pigs at the trough 

Greed will only get worse 

It is the way to claim more tourists to the country😁

If they're focusing on tourists, the police should be holding the rental companies responsible. Insist that all rental agreements carry a copy of the driving licence of the holder. 

I agree tourists need to be caught because they can be very irresponsible, and very ignorant of the road rules and even riding the motorbikes. Put tourists are a temporary hazard. They come and go. The police should be focusing more on the Thai riders and the Thai rental companies.

Once again they're focusing on a short-term solution instead of a final solution.

They were doing that 20 years ago what's new.

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“So far this year, 2,261 Thai nationals and 17,705 foreigners have been caught driving without a licence," Sinlert stated. "We're not only fining offenders but also targeting those who rent vehicles to unlicensed drivers."

I can believe the number of fines issued.

As stated in the OP this is a year to date statistic, not last week or month, and, is for the entire Province of Phuket, not one town such as HH.

Nearly 3 million tourist arrivals for the first half of 2025, means it's one of the most densely populated tourist destinations anywhere. There is a large number of Police  who's main tactic in traffic enforcement seems to be roadblocks and fine collection.

As stated above, they are also targeting renters. Pity there's no statistics or punishments given for these..

Hopefully most of the transgressors caught are Russian

17 hours ago, Chalong circle said:

At last a good news : only 2261 Thai nationals were driving without a licence in Phuket. And all of them were wearing helmets. Well done BIB !

never seen a thi not wearing a helmet, unless he was going to school

as  licensed rider, I understand why tourists want to rent a scooter to see as much as they can, but the risk they take to do it.  Yes a 125 click is small and easily maneuverable, and the fact that rental shops only take a photo of there passport and quite often supply helmet I have rented Jomtien, Krabi, Koh Kood, Ko Semet and not one asked for license. First most are riding now on the opposite side of the road, 2nd they have no motorcycle sense, but because of the ease of riding the scooter there confidence grows along with speed, and something like fixation is foreign and that pot hole becomes a magnet, meaning you will aways go where to look. And although some rental scooter come with a phone holder, thats the worst thing because you google maps a place and then hold the phone as you follow the directions, in your left hand, meaning know the only brake you have is the front with one hand, and again no motorcycle sense, a soi dog runs out, you get cut off, or bloody anything, and you grab instead of squeeze and down you go and this is the result if your lucky and don't die. image.jpeg.63160e2797dd425ce3f0ca2047628481.jpeg

What about all the unlicensed school kids?  They start riding these things to school from about 10 years old ... that's something that needs cleaning up ... 

38 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

It is the way to claim more tourists to the country😁

Sure because allowing illegal activities is always a great way to encourage tourists….

The problem with this news story as it is presented by the authorities, is that it makes it sound like 8 times as many resident foreigners drive/ride without proper licenses than local people.

 

In fact there are several factors that make that very unlikely to be true.

 

1. Police stop many more foreigners than Thai people. I have no fact source for that other than my own eyes at Chalong Circle which I pass through at least twice a day on week days. 
 

2. Many of the foreigners who are stopped are tourists who have licenses that they mistakenly believe to be valid in Thailand.

 

3. Of the tourists who are stopped, most are on rented motorbikes and approximately zero have been warned that their home licence may not be valid.

 

4. Most locals don’t simply have a wrong or expired licence, most have no licence. Again, no fact source for that but intuitively I think it’s likely correct.

 

I don’t personally doubt the accuracy of the numbers, I just don’t think it’s anything to brag about in terms of Thai people being more diligent in terms of having the correct and  a current licence.

 

But, at the end of the day, 17k plus foreigners didn’t have the correct or current licence and for that they deserve to be fined imho. Whether Thai people deserve to get the free pass which they appear to receive, is an entirely different question and one which is for Thai society to address.

Just now, dyertribe said:

What about all the unlicensed school kids?  They start riding these things to school from about 10 years old ... that's something that needs cleaning up ... 

their country, their rules.

50 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Offenses to be especially aware of in 2024

In 2024, the police have increased traffic controls and are strictly enforcing road safety rules. Here are the offenses that they are particularly focusing on:

  • Driving against the flow of traffic: Previously, the police were lenient about driving against the flow of traffic, but now even Thai nationals are being penalized for this offense. Always ensure you are driving in the correct direction to avoid a fine.
  • Parking in prohibited areas: Pay close attention to the color of the curb and the road signs, which indicate where parking is not allowed. Fines for violating parking rules are becoming more common.
  • Unauthorized removal of a police lock: Removing a police lock (chain with a padlock) from a parked vehicle is considered a criminal offense for damaging government property. The penalty for this offense ranges from 5000 THB to several months in prison.

https://phuket-garage.com/road-fines-in-thailand/

Number one just take a look at any thailand dashcam site they actually block roads driving on the wrong side.

Number two they park anywhere they please especially if its to buy food.

Nunber three really never saw this but then I live in the sticks

Nice figures but how many of each nationality were actually stopped, these figures could show exactly what they appear or could equally show officers are targeting foreign riders. If the bib are going gain a reputation as a law enforcement agency they need to start keeping and showing  full statistics statistics. 

How many checkpoints 

Locations

Officers involved

How many stops total and a breakdown of thai or foreign riders

What offences are ticketed each month

 

My area hold these these real times a month same places and same times, they will produce lots of fines but if they were to show how many riders were stopped for having no lights the number would be zero, because the checkpoints are always during the day

12 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Put fines on those breaking the law, not arguing. 

 

But I always feel a bit disgusted on seeing a cop road block in Thailand, like in Hua Hin very often, where the cops only stop falangs and let all the thai riders with no helmets pass. This is a flagrant discrimination and corruption. 

Live in the sticks, at my local check point I always get waved through and I think its because they dont speak english

What Else new they were even trying to do it during 

 Covid with no tourist. 

Look at the big picture guys. BIB need rental companies to rent to unlicensed tourists in order to make money. Any suggestion that they go after rental companies is just for public consumption. 

1 hour ago, ronster said:

So how many Thais were fined for no license or helmet , especially children and you can bet not one rental company was fined for renting them out to people without a licence. 🙄

This could be seen as two tier policing as is seen in the UK?

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

And how many rentals were prosecuted for renting to unlicensed riders/drivers ?

Just another racket.

Is it the law they must do that?

18 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

You have to wonder how long it took to get that photo......three motorbikes, five people........ and all wearing helmets.

 

After days of painstaking standby.

17 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

17,000?

 

I don't buy that for a nanosecond. That means 80 tickets per day, every day. The BiB don't have that much energy. Are they writing tickets? Obviously, but they really should report a more believable number.

You should come and watch them at Chalong roundabout. They write many more tickets daily. And only to tourists. Thais and expats alike never get stopped.

Only 80 a day, that seems crazy low for the whole of Phuket.

In years gone by I regularly rented cars from Budget on my Australian license with no problem. It is also endorsed unlimited sized motor cycles.

Question:- Are foreign license's still legal for limited use here? Not that I have any intension of renting or riding a bike here.

1 hour ago, dyertribe said:

What about all the unlicensed school kids?  They start riding these things to school from about 10 years old ... that's something that needs cleaning up ... 

Police are normally standing outside the schools where I live allowing it to go on, 

24 minutes ago, Mannekenpis said:

You should come and watch them at Chalong roundabout. They write many more tickets daily. And only to tourists. Thais and expats alike never get stopped.

I’ve been driving to Bangkok hospital a lot lately and there is a check point at Chillva Market. They pull over all motor bikes.  Plenty of Thais, Burmese and foreigners.  No discrimination. At least what I see. I’m in a car though.  

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