8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

No way they should have charcoal burners near anyone's house.

 

Even where we are, where they burning anything and everything, the charcoal burners are way out in the rice fields.

 

They built their house near the charcoal burners.

5 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

They built their house near the charcoal burners.

 

 

Well that's pretty dumb......those things are horrendous.

So a Falang comes along to live in the village & expects the villagers to change their way of life for him ... Good luck with that. 

And - what makes it extra risible - the Falang probably comes from a country (there are quite a few of them) where the locals are currently rioting against foreign newcomers.

 

In sum, it's the Falang who needs to change his attitude or else pack his bags & leave. 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Well that's pretty dumb......those things are horrendous.

Oh, you poor little thing.

7 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

They built their house near the charcoal burners.

Well said.

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

It's not fear that stops them. It's the Thai cultural equivalent of 'live and let live' which manifests itself as mai bpen rai.

 

Maybe fear is not correct but they have a cultural of not confronting problems directly through dialog. It's all about protecting their fragile ego which they never developed as adults to handle criticism. 

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

There are no laws for Thai people only for foreigners... This is an example... The Thai man can create smoke, and is being protected,

 

My wife works for the Tobacco Authority of Thailand and on the premise they do fire curing some points during the year. It's not really a large amount of smoke by any means but it goes on non-stop for a couple days. Anyways, a couple months ago apparently some new guy from Bangkok bought a house near their wall and complained about the smoke to the local government. Not sure how it gets resolved because they've been here for decades and it's like 40 rai property so there's not much more than can do besides move the facility (which they may have done even but I forget now).

8 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

Oh, you poor little thing.

 

What does this even mean?

18 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Per article:  where he lives about 1–2 kilometres from the nearest village.

 

Foreign dude buys 15 rai in the countryside and decides he wants the world to change for him.  

 

 

but they guy moved in right next to him it sounds like.  That's just the horror of buying any land in Thailand where anyone can move  near you and start up some operation that ruins your peace.

9 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

has been sued by a foreign neighbour

Thai's have been doing it for centuries. 

Foreigner, comes to town and sues. 

 

This is why I dislike some foreigners. 

Come to Thailand and want change. 

Go back to your home country if you don't like it. 😡

How childish, no Du diligence 😡

He's probably an AN forum member, we have loads of whiners here. 

 

I'm so sorry Thailand for the disrespectful foreigners arriving 

11 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

but they guy moved in right next to him it sounds like.  That's just the horror of buying any land in Thailand where anyone can move  near you and start up some operation that ruins your peace.

 

I read the timeline differently.  Farmer Sammy inherited 4 rai in 2020, leaving 2 rai for the structure built that year and farm.

 

Foreigner dude at some time bought 15 rai and with all that space, built his McMansion right across the dirt road from Sammy.

 

Appears to me, the McMansion was built after Farmer Sammy already had his little farm in operation, but the article is not 100% clear on that.

 

edit

 

No, wait, I missed this part:

 

Following the complaints, Samoe ceased burning charcoal for cooking in 2020, switching to gas.

 

Still unclear as to timeline.  Would need to know when the McMansion was constructed.

9 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Thai's have been doing it for centuries. 

Foreigner, comes to town and sues. 

 

This is why I dislike some foreigners. 

Come to Thailand and want change. 

FFS, go back to your home country if you don't like it. 😡

How childish 

 

I'm so sorry Thailand for the disrespectful foreigners arriving 

 

Maybe he took it too far but I have nothing by sympathy for the people that don't know anything before making the move and investing in to property only to have their dreams shattered.

 

Don't think it's just foreigners. Most Thai people would simply know better than to move there but they would hate it all the same. 

3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

I read the timeline differently.  Farmer Sammy inherited 4 rai in 2020, leaving 2 rai for the structure built that year and farm.

 

Foreigner dude at some time bought 15 rai and with all that space, built his McMansion right across the dirt road from Sammy.

 

 

yeah that could be right he built right on the road and was pretty close to the other guy. The land office should notify people in case they don't know there's no expectation of clean air if you build there. It's just going to be problem after for that guy unless he cuts his loses and bails.

12 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

I read the timeline differently.  Farmer Sammy inherited 4 rai in 2020, leaving 2 rai for the structure built that year and farm.

 

Foreigner dude at some time bought 15 rai and with all that space, built his McMansion right across the dirt road from Sammy.

 

Appears to me, the McMansion was built after Farmer Sammy already had his little farm in operation, but the article is not 100% clear on that.

 

edit

 

No, wait, I missed this part:

 

Following the complaints, Samoe ceased burning charcoal for cooking in 2020, switching to gas.

 

Still unclear as to timeline.  Would need to know when the McMansion was constructed.

Yes, the article doesn't make it clear but this part makes it sound like the farmer was there first :-

 

"Initially, the couple engaged with Samoe during construction" 

5 minutes ago, nahkit said:

Yes, the article doesn't make it clear but this part makes it sound like the farmer was there first :-

 

"Initially, the couple engaged with Samoe during construction" 

 

Yes, but Farmer Sammy inherited and built his house and farm in 2020.  The article then says he switched to cooking with gas due to complaints in 2020.

 

Upon re-reading, McMansion was there first, Farmer Sammy built a house nearby, sellling 2 other rai.  The foreign guy spoke to him at first during construction of Sammy's house, but then built a 2.5-meter wall.

 

Doesn't matter, though.  Tradition will win out in the end.  Foreigner dude will have to go through mediation and be prepared to offer Farmer Sammy an offer he can't refuse to sell his property.

 

 

9 hours ago, edwinchester said:

There are laws in Thailand against such antisocial behaviour as burning but the problem is the laws are so rarely enforced that people carry on archaic practices with no regard for the impact on others. Authorities must decide whether they are going to follow the law or give up and allow people to carry on ruining the environment for others.

It happens in my area, they do it to keep the biting insects away, this time of year can cause Ephemeral Fever also known as 3 day sickness, caused by biting Gnats. Other times of the year, to protect cattle agist mosquitoes, you cannot get fly tags in Thailand. Google them, you can spray the cattle with an insecticide, not easy and expensive

So, he has a right to protect his livestock, normally, they use bits of wood and grass to burn, normally just a bit of smoke, nothing too much, the farmer would know to much smoke will cause respiratory problems with his cattle.

I think the Farang is being too fussy, if he does not like living in the countryside move back to a city, the guyhas stopped making charcoal, now using expensive gas.so it is not if he has totally ignored the problem.

4 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

Sorry, but you are not as important as you think.

I am not ...........but all foreigners is something else...... And many other foreigners feel the same

3 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

They built their house near the charcoal burners.

Indeed and than complaining about the bad air quality because of too much smog 

11 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

The root problem as I see it is that Thai people themselves are complicit and very happy to live their lives inhaling smoke daily.

 

Unless that culture changes it's going to be an uphill battle you can never win and you'll make lots of enemies on the way. Once you get outside of cities you need to be in full control of your immediate area so that means no tightly packed villages. It really sucks because they're nice people but they simply can't be trusted to not pollute.

Another case for being as far away from Thai's as possible.

10 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Maybe fear is not correct but they have a cultural of not confronting problems directly through dialog. It's all about protecting their fragile ego which they never developed as adults to handle criticism. 

 

Fear is not correct. Being non-confrontational is correct.

 

Their having fragile egos and being immature are the fallacious projections of farang ru-mahk.

16 hours ago, falangUK said:

Were there Thai neighbours nearby, and didn’t they complain?

 

 

The Thai neighbours were a little further away, also hated the smell but didn't complain. They told my friends Thai wife they were relieved when the pigs disappeared.

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Isn't it potentially dangerous to go down this path of filing lawsuits as a foreigner

 

Didn't he have a Thai wife, maybe she made the awsuit?

21 hours ago, edwinchester said:

There are laws in Thailand against such antisocial behaviour as burning but the problem is the laws are so rarely enforced that people carry on archaic practices with no regard for the impact on others. Authorities must decide whether they are going to follow the law or give up and allow people to carry on ruining the environment for others.

Love thy neighbour... work it out amicably

It sucks to not be able to breathe, either from allergies, bronchitis, emphysema or cancer. It sucks.

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Isn't it potentially dangerous to go down this path of filing lawsuits as a foreigner in Thailand?

 

Highly inadvisable,........it will go nowhere, all the foreigner has done is to antagonize the the local community.

Johnny foreigner is going to start having problems im sure 😁 

Owned a house before in samui with around 6 other houses pretty close beside it and was nice quiet place to live until some Thais who owned land near or worked for people who owned land moved into area.

They built a shack type place right beside one of the houses around 200m from my property and they would light fires to smoke coconut shells . They would leave these smoking away all night mostly and in the morning I would wake with nothing but the burning smell in my house. They didn't care about anyone else in the area and assume they must have been feral as one of them had an argument with a guy on main road one afternoon, left and returned 2 minutes later with a gun and shot the other guy dead in the street. Sat waiting for police to turn up 😳

45 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Didn't he have a Thai wife, maybe she made the awsuit?

You might be right. They can get a bit uppity when they have new money.

22 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Isn't it potentially dangerous to go down this path of filing lawsuits as a foreigner in Thailand?

 

No, he got his Thai wife. 

But good relations are gone. Probably not only with Samoe.

17 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

It's not fear that stops them. It's the Thai cultural equivalent of 'live and let live' which manifests itself as mai bpen rai.

That's what everyone believes at first, but live here long enough and you'll get to see beyond that. A Thai confronting another Thai with a complaint rarely gets a "Oh I'm so sorry, I had no idea I was annoying you, I'll cease immediately" type of response. Instead they'll have a major issue that could easily turn nasty. Thais go to great lengths to avoid confontation for fear of the situation escalating out of hand.

11 minutes ago, grain said:

That's what everyone believes at first, but live here long enough and you'll get to see beyond that. A Thai confronting another Thai with a complaint rarely gets a "Oh I'm so sorry, I had no idea I was annoying you, I'll cease immediately" type of response. Instead they'll have a major issue that could easily turn nasty. Thais go to great lengths to avoid confontation for fear of the situation escalating out of hand.

They also don't know how to solve the confrontation (lack the skills). Growing up and in school criticism was not allowed and problems with others were largely ignored (unless there was a blow up).