9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems you don't like it here. Now think about what is easier. Changing Thailand or leaving Thailand?

Can you not jump to wild, sweeping conclusions based on one observation? You'll have a lot more credibility.

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Imagine every country in this world would supply vaccines to all their citizens which are in other countries in this world. That would be a lot of vaccines flying around the globe. And for what? Most (all?) countries work on the vaccination of all the people in their individual countries. It just takes some time.

 

As far as I see there is no foreigner in Thailand who didn't voluntarily come to Thailand, maybe except from prisoners. Many foreigners are in Thailand because they enjoy that Thailand is different from home. But then some complain that x and y and z is not like home. Make up your mind! What do you want? Thailand with all the good and all the bad? Or only those parts of Thailand which you like and otherwise your home country should take care of you. Really? 

This is not really that funny, but the US could help more! Just like when I was in the USAF, hurry up and wait! That is all I do here, and I came because of my wife not Thailand's <deleted>. But I must put up with it, doesn't mean I have to like it. I am open minded and patient as the service taught me to be because it too is slow. I have been here over 5 years and know perfectly well how things are and just shake my head about it.

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

This will never, ever happen now, because to do something the French did first

 

In my defense, I've been advocating, with no success, this position for at least three months.

 

Some (not me directly) have been told it was/is being considered but a few impediments remain which are so far intractible.

14 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Got the email from the embassy this morning, and I had to just laugh. They have put their trust in Thailand and other countries to vaccinate the citizens who are living or working in those countries.

But they are happy to take your Taxes when you have no benefit from them..

America <deleted> yea...

3 minutes ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

Can you not jump to wild, sweeping conclusions based on one observation? You'll have a lot more credibility.

 

You'll have to get used to the "If you don't like ______________, then you should leave" -Brigade.

 

They're best left unfed.

4 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

This is not really that funny, but the US could help more! Just like when I was in the USAF, hurry up and wait! That is all I do here, and I came because of my wife not Thailand's <deleted>. But I must put up with it, doesn't mean I have to like it. I am open minded and patient as the service taught me to be because it too is slow. I have been here over 5 years and know perfectly well how things are and just shake my head about it.

Then you and your misses should wear an N95 mask if you are concerned. Best way to NOT get infected. Best of luck and thanks for your service.

4 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

This is not really that funny, but the US could help more! Just like when I was in the USAF, hurry up and wait! That is all I do here, and I came because of my wife not Thailand's <deleted>. But I must put up with it, doesn't mean I have to like it. I am open minded and patient as the service taught me to be because it too is slow. I have been here over 5 years and know perfectly well how things are and just shake my head about it.

I am sure you would be so much happier in America.

More than 600,000 dead because of Covid. And now they are proud that fewer than 300 Americans die per day because of Covid.

Imagine if Thailand would be like America. Thanks but no thanks.

14 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Got the email from the embassy this morning, and I had to just laugh. They have put their trust in Thailand and other countries to vaccinate the citizens who are living or working in those countries.

And continue to pay taxes to the US on all foreign earned income.

Off-topic, inflammatory and troll posts reported and removed.   Keep it civil.  

 

36 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Abroad, we are getting taxation without representation.

Exactly.

 

I feel sorry for those who worked all their life in US, paid taxes, saved up and retired elsewhere and now are left on their own. Or for those who are still required to pay US taxes, because their worldwide income/ crypto/stock gains are over the yearly maximum deductible. 

 

Most governments don't care about their citizens, you are treated as tax cattles. 

 

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As a US citizen, this all comes down to all to common LAZINESS on the part of the government’s role to step up and do the right thing.

The USA is run by corporations NOT government officials that actually delay to make a decision on any matter of importance unless of course it benefits their pocketbook.

 

While it is true that it would be nice to feel that the “land of the free” cares, really they do not.

You must take it upon yourself to fly home and get vaccinated....and BTW enjoy going to a baseball game and have a beer in the bar without masks....

 

If you really want a free ride from the USA, commit a serious crime when you return...then the penitentiary will give you three squares a day, free vaccines, and health care...and as an added bonus, free quarantine!

 

hee hee

 

Cheers

26 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

But he has not ensured any domestic safety and security by letting thousands of illegals into the country, exactly the opposite.  

Simple question - did illegals stop coming in the country during the previous presidency? I don't think so despite the quite significant (albeit misguided) efforts that were expended in that regard. So understanding that illegal immigrants will be in the USA regardless of policy, intention, political party of the President or any other factors, do you think it better that they are vaccinated or unvaccinated? Do you think you're a higher priority for people in the USA or are the people who they may well encounter who might be spreading the virus?

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Getting vaccinated with AZ here in Bangkok already, my appointments for tomorrow.

That's great, Ryan. How did you get an appointment?

My wife has been calling around and gets the "Thais only!" dodge. And of course the Thai intervac site did not work for most and is now simply off line.

Even my "connection" (hospital nurse relative) in Mae Hong Son has been told "no foreigners".

????????????

31 minutes ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

Since Biden has rightly emphasized vaccinating illegal immigrants and seems to have decided to not vaccinate Americans abroad, isn't that precisely what he's doing?

Yes, and I agree with his priorities although I can't say that I'm very impressed either by the USA or Canada or other countries who don't seem to give a flying about their citizen-expats. 

This is also where I note once again that the impoverished country to Thailand's East, the one with a Socialist government, the one that doesn't discriminate against expatriates and have double-pricing as a matter of course...they vaccinated me and every other expatriate for FREE! Orderly, simple, easy, zero cost, already double-vaxxed with A-Z like majority of the expats here.

It's hard to blame them.  There is more expats throughout the world than any other country.  If Thailand then why not Paraguay, Vietnam, etc.

 

How would you implement that.  Thailand can't even vaccinate there own population. 

 

 If you've been to either embassy in Thailand it's not ready for thousands of American expats to be vaccinated.  There operating on a skeleton crew.  Security there makes this a non-starter.

 

 

I flew back to the USA 3.5 weeks ago, I am fully vaccinated with Pfizer already, take matters into your own hands and stop waiting for someone to rescue you 

1 minute ago, MrJ2U said:

If you've been to either embassy in Thailand it's not ready for thousands of American expats to be vaccinated.  There operating on a skeleton crew.  Security there makes this a non-starter.

 

And yet China and France were able to vaccinate their citizens in Thailand, despite having much smaller embassies and, in the case of China, many, many more citizens in Thailand than does the US.

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am sure you would be so much happier in America.

More than 600,000 dead because of Covid. And now they are proud that fewer than 300 Americans die per day because of Covid.

Imagine if Thailand would be like America. Thanks but no thanks.

Thailand may start having a death toll not unlike India and Brazil.  

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Getting vaccinated with AZ here in Bangkok already

 

4 minutes ago, Kwaibill said:

That's great, Ryan. How did you get an appointment?

 

+1. I'm curious about this too. Also curious about what documentation was provided post-vax to certify your vaccination status?

11 hours ago, Disparate Dan said:

No-one said you had to take one. Calm down.

[Note: Americans have a tendency to get hysterical...]

He wasn't hysterical just made a statement  I think you are one who is hysterical buttercup

The feds are perfectly willing to donate a half million doses to Taiwan and some poor countries but screw the tax-paying expats in other countries. 

15 minutes ago, paulbrow said:

And continue to pay taxes to the US on all foreign earned income.

False. There's an earned income exemption that's more than $100,000.

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

And yet China and France were able to vaccinate their citizens in Thailand, despite having much smaller embassies and, in the case of China, many, many more citizens in Thailand than does the US.

Yes thats true.  Be curious how that pans out and how they do it logistically.

Hopefully we get Moderna here sooner than later.  Until then stay safe.

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Imagine every country in this world would supply vaccines to all their citizens which are in other countries in this world. That would be a lot of vaccines flying around the globe. And for what? Most (all?) countries work on the vaccination of all the people in their individual countries. It just takes some time.

 

As far as I see there is no foreigner in Thailand who didn't voluntarily come to Thailand, maybe except from prisoners. Many foreigners are in Thailand because they enjoy that Thailand is different from home. But then some complain that x and y and z is not like home. Make up your mind! What do you want? Thailand with all the good and all the bad? Or only those parts of Thailand which you like and otherwise your home country should take care of you. Really? 

QUOTE Thailand with all the good and all the bad? UNQUOTE   I lived in China and several ASEAN countries (several years in each of them) and I always wrote and said that taking into account all considerations Thailand is for foreigners the best country to live ...but now at the age of 77 the inability to get a vaccination could result in severe illness and even death .

38 minutes ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

Since Biden has rightly emphasized vaccinating illegal immigrants and seems to have decided to not vaccinate Americans abroad, isn't that precisely what he's doing?

Mr. (President) Biden I expect had little to do with the State Department policy, much of which is inhabited by denizens of former administrations.

His greatest responsibility is to 330 million at home. The 5 to 9 million (depending on which "guestimate" you choose) take a more distant level of concern for the US CEO.

13 hours ago, The Cipher said:

 

I agree with this. Expecting embassies to provide vaccinations is dumb, but vaccine distribution locally should be nationality-agnostic and based on need.

 

The most vulnerable should be prioritized with the rollout moving down the chain of vulnerability until the population is vaccinated.

Agree, it is the racial discrimination that we object to. 

13 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Thailand may start having a death toll not unlike India and Brazil.  

Then better hurry to get out of here.

8 minutes ago, fvw53 said:

QUOTE Thailand with all the good and all the bad? UNQUOTE   I lived in China and several ASEAN countries (several years in each of them) and I always wrote and said that taking into account all considerations Thailand is for foreigners the best country to live ...but now at the age of 77 the inability to get a vaccination could result in severe illness and even death .

Yes, sure, it could.

But then think about all that fun in Thailand.

Personally I would prefer enjoying most of my life and possibly die a few years early compared to no fun and living longer.

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Then better hurry to get out of here.

OMF OMG, never thought you were part of the "If you don't like it then leave" brigade. Guess your just not a happy camper.