1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

I feel as though there is a tsunami of delta cases coming and the authorities are building walls of sand on the beach to stop it.

 

Mosquito nets to stop virus particles.

42 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I thought I read that testing was being stopped, which has me more concerned.......

Clearly, all hospital walk-ins are tested. We are seeing almost 3,000 of those, so that means another 1,000 cases are the result of testing outside of hospitals.

 

Before today, that is.

Hospitals are overloaded because they have the insane idea they need to bed asymptomatic cases which is a total waste of resources.

 

Secondly Thailand need to chill & face reality not shut everything down to squash protest movements etc

 

Because here is a fact

According to the latest WHO data published in 2018 Influenza and Pneumonia Deaths in Thailand reached 44,549 or 9.11% of total deaths.

 

So how many Flu/Pneumonia deaths a day average is that in 2018 PRE COVID?  122 !!

 

How many are dying now of covid according to Thai stats? 20-50 a day?

 

Geez buy a calculator & use some reason & logic Covid has been in full force in Thailand since 2019 period

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The daily numbers have been in the 3k-5k range for months

 

You have any graph to prove that?

46 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The number of hospital walk-ins vs those detected via testing is critical today. Are the numbers higher due to increased testing? 

The only thing rising in the testing numbers is the infection rate!

33 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

You and me both know those numbers are 10 x

Which is true for just about every country, even for those that test a lot.

6 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The daily numbers have been in the 3k-5k range for months...exponential increase implies continued increases, which we don't see. However, it is unfortunate the measures taken to date have been unable to reduce the numbers to the triple digits of last year. I guess once you have this level of cases the genie can't be put back in the bottle (without widespread vaccinations).

Can you provide some numbers to back that up. I don’t recall numbers as high as 5k before, other than on two days when prison cases were dumped. And also don’t recall cases of 4K other than the last week. Prior to that I don’t recall cases of 3k for anything other than a couple of weeks.

 

are you seriously saying that cases haven’t been steadily rising, despite the shortfall in testing? And check out the 7 day rolling average chart. See anything there that says cases arent rapidly rising?

7 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The daily numbers have been in the 3k-5k range for months...exponential increase implies continued increases, which we don't see. However, it is unfortunate the measures taken to date have been unable to reduce the numbers to the triple digits of last year. I guess once you have this level of cases the genie can't be put back in the bottle (without widespread vaccinations).

Numbers are rising, but there is no exponential increase.

13 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

and their five or so mobile testing units will be all that's left to test all of Thailand.

 

I feel another BMW budget coming - smart testing

14 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

This is just an artefact so there is nothing to be concerned about.

 

Numbers are up a bit but shopping malls now close at 9pm instead of 10pm so that will bring the numbers down.

 

Also this doesn’t exist outside of workers camps and factories and they have all been locked down now so we should see the end of this soon.

 

All hail our righteous leaders, these are the good people. Simply vote them out in the next election if you don’t like what they are doing.

I concur with this post, and would like also to go on record by saying PM Prayuth looked particularly dashing in his televised appearance this morning.

 

We are in safe hands now that he has identified migrant workers as the main problem. 

7 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

exponential increase implies continued increases, which we don't see.

You are correct when you say "which we don't see".Thailand is 104th in the world for transparency and corruption, perhaps that's why we don't see.I wonder if we will "see" Thailand open up this week.

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Numbers are rising, but there is no exponential increase.

definition of exponential.

1. 

(of an increase) becoming more and more rapid.

"the social security budget was rising at an exponential rate"

 

Check out daily increases over the last 2 weeks, bearing in mind daily numbers are inaccurate due to the testing fiasco.
 

You have to read into the numbers, not just take them at face value. In other words, interpret the data given the environment in which it was collected.

 

Exponential growth may have started a week or so ago.

 

 

 

1.  

 

NSW in lockdown for 2 wks with 130 cases. They are hoping to bring it under control in the 2 wks. Thailand just under 5400 reported community cases. This is before they start testing those who are now locked into the covid cages. The prediction of running into the 5 figures of reported numbers in well on the cards. 

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hospitals will be overwhelmed and there won’t be enough beds to accommodate the increasing number of COVID-19 patients

 

Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick.   Just a thought.   

They really need to rethink this Phuket Sandbox. The Covid situation is out of control

Despite growing public concern over surging COVID-19 infections, Phuket Sandbox scheme is set to roll out on July 1. Fully vaccinated visitors are welcome to explore the tropical paradise island without quarantine.

 

https://thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

27 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your mistaken yesterday it was 3995 and before also in the 4000 range.. so just a 30% increase nothing to worry about. I am sure in the other topics people will want to open the bars as data is interpreted based on the individual his or her needs not on logic. 

Oh only 30% increase , my bad. In that case all is going according to plan????

4 minutes ago, club said:

They really need to rethink this Phuket Sandbox. The Covid situation is out of control

They won't as the loss of face would be too great.

Just now, BestB said:

Oh only 30% increase , my bad. In that case all is going according to plan????

(did you switch off the sarcasm detection)

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Despite growing public concern over surging COVID-19 infections, Phuket Sandbox scheme is set to roll out on July 1. Fully vaccinated visitors are welcome to explore the tropical paradise island without quarantine.

 

https://thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

Ha ha ha and if you get sick there's no hospital.  

Yeah I'll get right on that.

Just now, robblok said:

(did you switch off the sarcasm detection)

Only works between certain hours ????

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Despite growing public concern over surging COVID-19 infections, Phuket Sandbox scheme is set to roll out on July 1. Fully vaccinated visitors are welcome to explore the tropical paradise island without quarantine.

 

https://thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

Bad timing again for this government. What are they thinking?

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick.   Just a thought.   

Aren't asymptomatic or mild cases going to field hospitals. It's critical care and ICU which is overloaded.

 

 

1 minute ago, club said:

They really need to rethink this Phuket Sandbox. The Covid situation is out of control

 

Why.    What harm could the double vaccinated, quadruple tested, GPS tracked tourists coming in possibly do there?  

#COVID19 UPDATE on MONDAY:

 

22 deaths and 5,406 cases (9 from prisons). Full details at 12:30pm

 

23 June: 3,174 - 51 dead

24 June: 4,108 - 31 dead

25 June: 3,644 - 44 dead

26 June: 4,161 - 51 dead

27 June: 3,995 - 42 dead

28 June: 5,406 - 22 dead <— TODAY

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1409315088973012994

 

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Aren't asymptomatic or mild cases going to field hospitals. It's critical care and ICU which is overloaded.

 

Maybe I'm wrong then, but I am sure I read that a Bangkok hospital was stopping testing as a positive test meant they had to admit them.   I think that is where I got this from.   

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick.   Just a thought.   

 

i think they tried this in the UK with full rent, furloughs and 80% income no less. didn't work out too well.

 

how do you think thailand will get on with no rent moratorium or income provisions?

 

 

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe I'm wrong then, but I am sure I read that a Bangkok hospital was stopping testing as a positive test meant they had to admit them.   I think that is where I got this from.   

 

Testing was not stopped. It's being limited to available beds, which means the system is now wrong. It was never intended for high numbers. The failure is not having a better system to put in place when numbers rise.

 

11 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Despite growing public concern over surging COVID-19 infections, Phuket Sandbox scheme is set to roll out on July 1. Fully vaccinated visitors are welcome to explore the tropical paradise island without quarantine.

 

https://thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

My view is quicks and and sinking faster than Bangkok 

1 minute ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

i think they tried this in the UK with full rent, furloughs and 80% income no less. didn't work out too well.

 

how do you think thailand will get on with no rent moratorium or income provisions?

 

 

 

Well the UK was recording 50-70,000 positive cases a day back in January.   What exactly do you want to do with the people testing positive should Thailand get to even 50% of these numbers?   How do the logistics work of even feeding and accommodating this many people if you do not just send them home if they are not sick?