As mentioned in the link itself it is not yet peer reviewed but deemed important enough to publish the findings now. Anything that improves protection for front line health workers such as using and insisting on FFP3 masks gets the thumbs up from me.

 

https-::news.sky.com:story:covid-19-addenbrookes-hospital-upgraded-covid-staffs-face-masks-and-saw-cases-fall-by-almost-100-12344508.webloc

 

11 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 

Click the link and read thecase info.

Pattaya Party Town.

16 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I fancy a trip to Vegas. Do you know if I could get into the US easily and get a vaccine as a tourist? 

Why not as long as you have a Visa to be a tourist for the US you could, or even if you still had the Country of your origins citizenship and passport still, I believe it was AUS, but then I might be wrong, you could fly in visit for 2 weeks, get the first jab at the airport and the second jab on the way out, all free of course.

3 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

This is completely the wrong way to test, as the Virus is loose in Communities, Factories and offices now.

These are the places that need the saturated testing.

 

Absolutely of course the virus is all over the country in many communities but they have declined to do widespread testing in all the major cities  for the last year or more because it would reveal the true reality of Covid in Thailand, not something Pinocchio wants to be made public!

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The good news is that 2793 beds have been vacated, no idea how many of those are hospital Covid beds.

 

It doesn't take a math genius to figure out the following...

 

When you clear 2,793 prior COVID cases, but add another 4,662 new ones during the same 24 hour period....

 

you're going in the WRONG direction.

 

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

When you clear 2,793 prior COVID cases, but add another 4,662 new ones during the same 24 hour period....

 

you're going in the WRONG direction.

Not to mention those that would have been advised to isolate at home and monitor their symptoms.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I don't think you can get inoculated with Astra zenica vaccine in the USA

 

No, he can't, because the AZ vaccine is not approved in the U.S....

 

And, AFAIK, a U.S. doctor isn't likely to order a Pfizer or Moderna shot (the main US approved vaccines) for someone who just had an AZ shot in the prior month.

 

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the Pfizer vaccine is a German creation. And if you take account of the national origins of its creators, a Turkish-German creation.

Ignore the troll. In his mind If Pfizer were a uk creation it’d be a ‘B level’ vaccine. 

As for the topic of this thread....

 

--some weeks ago, I noted here that 3,000+ new cases per day was becoming the new normal for Thailand.

 

--In the past week that average often has been exceeding 4,000 new cases per day....

 

--Now with yesterday's 5400+ report and today's 4,662 report, it looks like +-5,000 is headed toward becoming our new normal.

 

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Look like the AstraZeneca is just a B level vaccine compared to the more innovative US vaccines.  

Lol. And how have the dutch helped in the fight against covid, Rob? I mean what did you invent? What have you done for the world exactly besides sitting back and letting others do the hard work like most other irrelevant countries? 

23 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

It doesn't take a math genius to figure out the following...

 

When you clear 2,793 prior COVID cases, but add another 4,662 new ones during the same 24 hour period....

 

you're going in the WRONG direction.

 

At most 10% of those will ever require actual medical intervention because of their virus infection so only 466 beds will actually be necessary sometime down the road.

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

As for the topic of this thread....

 

--some weeks ago, I noted here that 3,000+ new cases per day was becoming the new normal for Thailand.

 

--In the past week that average often has been exceeding 4,000 new cases per day....

 

--Now with yesterday's 5400+ report and today's 4,662 report, it looks like +-5,000 is headed toward becoming our new normal.

 

Yes it certainly looks that way and still they want to open things up. They must be really desperate for money and popularity. 

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

At most 10% of those will ever require actual medical intervention because of their virus infection so only 466 beds will actually be necessary sometime down the road.

 

And right now in the BKK region for real hospital beds to treat moderate to seriously ill COVID patients, there are basically few to NONE available. So at this point, any new cases requiring significant medical care are running out of places to go.

 

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Zero cases in Phuket yesterday...haven't seen today's breakdown yet ????????????

• June 28 - 3 new cases, total 723
• June 27 - 0 new cases, total 720
• June 26 - 1 new case, total 720
• June 25 - 3 new cases, 1 death, total 719
• June 24 - 2 new cases, total 716
• June 23 - 2 new caess, total 714
• June 22 - 3 new cases, total 712

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-marks-14-covid-infections-in-past-week-vaccinations-hit-80-80493.php

Today's update: BKK and eight other provinces reporting more than 100 new cases apiece (screen  cap from the government's video news briefing).

 

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Ok then credit where credit is due Germany. But then why is the production in the US if the research was in Germany ? But anyway the top vaccines are made in the US. 

mRNA technology and vaccines have a long history.

 

1. First invention and studies on mRNA vaccines are from Vical, a US biotech start up. Robert Malone's name is on several early papers.

 

2. Much of the patented technology was developed by Prof Drew Weissman and a Hungarian biochemist Katalin Karikó who started working together on a vaccine at Penn State in the US. Their work is patented and licensed to Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna.

 

3. Pfizer is an American company founded by a German run by a Turk. BioNTech (A Turkish woman and German) developed the vaccine now sold by Pfizer using  Weissman's and Karikó's patents.

 

4. Stanford and Harvard stem cell biologist Derrick Rossi (a Canadian of Maltese decent) recognized the importance of Weissman's and Karikó's work and founded Moderna in 2010.

 

All the mRNA vaccines license Canadian technology for the little lipid 'fat' balls that deliver mRNA into your cells.

 

Oh, and Thailand. Drew Weissman is now working with Chulalongkorn on a new mRNA vaccine. I suspect Drew is interested in trying out some new ideas.

5 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Lol. And how have the dutch helped in the fight against covid, Rob? I mean what did you invent? What have you done for the world exactly besides sitting back and letting others do the hard work like most other irrelevant countries? 

Who says anything about the Dutch besides that they were helping with the Jansen and Jansen vaccine. I was saying that it looked like that all the A level vaccines were from the US. 

 

Why do you feel insulted ? Its known that moderna and pfizer are superior to AZ. Im just stating the facts. Compared to moderna and pfizer its a B level vaccine. efficiancy wise . Shinovax would be C level or so. 

 

Just happy to see that Europe (Germany in this case) had a hand in developing an A level. Gives back some faith to the capabilities of those in Europe. 

And with today's update, still only about 4% of Thailand's population fully vaccinated, and the pace of the current vaccinations campaign running barely half of what they need to do each and every day to meet their 70% goal by year's end.

 

"Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (June 29, 2021)

.

About 4.07 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 6,721,038 (+185,261) people received the first dose, while 2,695,934 (+86,273) received the second dose. At this rate, Thailand needs to administer an average of 510,751 doses per day within the next 187 days to reach the herd immunity target by year end."

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4457327287619502

 

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yes but can I add. To be accountable I think we need true testing numbers, % of infected within those numbers, where testing is occurring and then those infected broken down into variant %.

In an ideal world, yes. meanwhile here in Thailand …….

 

????????

Out of 4,624 local cases (outside of prison)

 

most in Bangkok - 1,692 <- new high

Samut Prakan - 647

Samut Sakhon - 293

Nonthaburi - 185

Songkhla - 182

Pathum Thani - 180

Nakhon Pathom - 168

Chonburi - 146

Pattani - 143

Yala - 89

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1409751629646106625

 

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And with today's update, still only about 4% of Thailand's population fully vaccinated, and the pace of the current vaccinations campaign running barely half of what they need to do each and every day to meet their 70% goal by year's end.

 

"Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (June 29, 2021)

.

About 4.07 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 6,721,038 (+185,261) people received the first dose, while 2,695,934 (+86,273) received the second dose. At this rate, Thailand needs to administer an average of 510,751 doses per day within the next 187 days to reach the herd immunity target by year end."

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4457327287619502

 

I’m not too worried. They managed to make it to 70% in Phuket without actually needing to give the jabs to 70% of the population. I’m sure they can do it again. ????????????

 

one serious point to note, 120 days is way before year end. Thailand will be open with maybe 20% of the population vaccinated at this rate. 

Today there are 36 deaths in #Thailand: 20 males & 16 females 1 New Zealander died Median age is 67.5 (41-93 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (19),

Nonthaburi (7),

Nakhon Pathom (2),

Chiang Rai (2),

plus 6 provinces with 1 each 9 infected by family members

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1409749459425062914

 

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

And right now in the BKK region for real hospital beds to treat moderate to seriously ill COVID patients, there are basically few to NONE available. So at this point, any new cases requiring significant medical care are running out of places to go.

 

Again, some 2000+ people were released from treatment today, so some beds are available.

 

You can quibble that free beds are occupied immediately, but your post implies that 4,000 newly infected people are all without beds.

Just now, wensiensheng said:

I’m not too worried. They managed to make it to 70% in Phuket without actually needing to give the jabs to 70% of the population. I’m sure they can do it again. ????????????

 

one serious point to note, 120 days is way before year end. Thailand will be open with maybe 20% of the population vaccinated at this rate. 

Old news, its 80% now......????

 

Phuket marks 14 COVID infections in past week, vaccinations hit 80%

The number of Covid-19 infections from the cluster at a sewing factory in Tak’s Mae Sot district rose to 606. More field hospitals are being set up to accommodate the growing number of Covid-19 patients.

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1409739907908587524

 

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Again, some 2000+ people were released from treatment today, so some beds are available.

 

You can quibble that free beds are occupied immediately, but your post implies that 4,000 newly infected people are all without beds.

 

No my post didn't "imply" anything. My post merely factually stated that adding 4600+ new cases, while clearing 2,700 during the same day, is a losing proposition -- especially when there are basically no available COVID hospital beds in the BKK region already.

 

20 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

At most 10% of those will ever require actual medical intervention because of their virus infection so only 466 beds will actually be necessary sometime down the road.

Unless there are another 4K to 5k cases tomorrow, in which case that down the road figure will rise. And if there is another 4K to 5k cases the next day, it will rise again. The need for increased beds doesn’t stop today.

 

There will of course be some deaths that free up beds, and some discharges. But if the net figure is positive every day, you run out of beds. 

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Again, some 2000+ people were released from treatment today, so some beds are available.

 

You can quibble that free beds are occupied immediately, but your post implies that 4,000 newly infected people are all without beds.

2000 moderately to seriously ill patients were released TODAY?

 

can you substantiate that?

1 hour ago, Enzian said:

I had the AZ here in Bangkok a week ago, and then decided for a matrix of reasons to fly out. It will be interesting to see what my GP at Kaiser in Oakland in three weeks recommends to follow up with. And there is no supply problem there with any of them, to my knowledge.

Moderna or Pfizer would follow the recommendation I recently heard.

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

No my post didn't "imply" anything. My post merely factually stated that adding 4600+ new cases, while clearing 2,700 during the same day, is a losing proposition -- especially when there are basically no available COVID hospital beds in the BKK region already.

 

You were also talking about moderate to seriously ill patients. Is danderman, I wonder?