Ivermectin

[xylophone]

3 minutes ago, NotEinstein said:

https://www.uscc.gov/hearings/exploring-growing-us-reliance-chinas-biotech-and-pharmaceutical-products

https://www.cfr.org/blog/us-dependence-pharmaceutical-products-china

Gary Cohn, then chief economic advisor to President Trump, argued against a trade war with China by invoking a Department of Commerce study that found that 97 percent of all antibiotics in the United States came from China.

That was a "mis-stated" part of the original report which is covered in this...........

 

Why You Shouldn't Trust Anyone Who Claims over 80 Percent of America's Drugs Come From China

A misleading statistic has made the rounds. But it’s based on a misreading of a government report

https://reason.com/2020/04/06/why-you-shouldnt-trust-anyone-who-claims-80-percent-of-americas-drugs-come-from-china/

[fredscats]

On 7/23/2021 at 12:24 PM, gamb00ler said:

My wife takes thyroid hormone that costs $10 for 3 months at Walmart.  Here it's about 260฿ for 100.  The downside is that Thailand only authorizes a few dosages with rather large gaps between them.  For best results she should take 80µ grams daily.  Only 50's and 100's are available here.  We're becoming very competent pill cutters.

180 baht per 100 @ 100

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

During the energy crisis of the 1970s, salvation lay with the miracle carburetor that would deliver 75 mpg in the family car, but was being kept away from auto manufacturers by Big Oil. Now, during the Covid crisis, we hear about Ivermectin and Big Pharma.

 

I'll wait for conclusive studies that prove Ivermectin either way. I'm still waiting for that magic carb.

 

I think conspiracy theories never die, they just change their clothing.

[konaboy]

I bought it in Hawaii before coming here. Had to special order it from a Pharmacy. $90.00 for 60  5mg pills

[driver52]

On 8/22/2021 at 10:12 AM, david555 said:

FDA urges people to stop taking ivermectin to treat COVID-19 - Axios

of course they do! they don't want their friends in BIG PHARMA to miss out on all the billions from the convid vax........and of course those cushy backhanders

the mafia has never been happier with all the muppets in the world ????

PS look at your average yank, do you honestly believe the FDA is there in the interest of the people?

[david555]

Just now, driver52 said:

of course they do! they don't want their friends in BIG PHARMA to miss out on all the billions from the convid vax........and of course those cushy backhanders

the mafia has never been happier with all the muppets in the world ????

Than so might also do the Ivermectin side maybe .....? All have interest..., and they are also under the BIG PHARMA umbrella  as you name it .... 

[driver52]

On 8/22/2021 at 12:34 PM, david555 said:

Than so might also do the Ivermectin side maybe .....? All have interest..., and they are also under the BIG PHARMA umbrella  as you name it .... 

ok moderna share price went from 70 bucks last november to 480 bucks last week!

 

 

[Danderman123]

10 hours ago, david555 said:

FDA urges people to stop taking ivermectin to treat COVID-19 - Axios

https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1429050070243192839?s=20

 

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, driver52 said:

of course they do! they don't want their friends in BIG PHARMA to miss out on all the billions from the convid vax........and of course those cushy backhanders

the mafia has never been happier with all the muppets in the world ????

PS look at your average yank, do you honestly believe the FDA is there in the interest of the people? wake the f up!

Merck makes a fortune off Ivermectin, but warns people not to use it for Covid. Please explain.

[Danderman123]

On 8/14/2021 at 5:30 AM, suzannegoh said:

Future president DeSantis is now pushing Regeneron as being the clear alternative to vaccines and masks.

Regeneran is only available under emergency FDA approval, and the long term effects are not well understood by medical researchers. 
 

in other words, irony is lost on you.

[shdmn]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Regeneran is only available under emergency FDA approval, and the long term effects are not well understood by medical researchers. 
 

in other words, irony is lost on you.

These people are so dumb that the FDA had to issue a statement telling them they are not cows begging them to stop taking veterinary drugs.

[cclub75]

7 minutes ago, shdmn said:

These people are so dumb that the FDA had to issue a statement telling them they are not cows begging them to stop taking veterinary drugs.

 

"These people are so dumb" that the WHO has to remind them that :

 

-ivermectin is a drug for HUMANS and it is essential.

 

To the point that it is listed on the "WHO list of essential medecines"

Link : https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1237479/retrieve

 

It is used again the "river blindness river" since 40 years, and saved countless of lives.

 

-furthermore, Satoshi Ōmura, who discovered ivermectin, won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2015.

Link : https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/omura/facts/

 

Tell that to your horses and cows.... ????

 

[shdmn]

37 minutes ago, cclub75 said:

 

"These people are so dumb" that the WHO has to remind them that :

 

-ivermectin is a drug for HUMANS and it is essential.

 

To the point that it is listed on the "WHO list of essential medecines"

Link : https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1237479/retrieve

 

It is used again the "river blindness river" since 40 years, and saved countless of lives.

 

-furthermore, Satoshi Ōmura, who discovered ivermectin, won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2015.

Link : https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/omura/facts/

 

Tell that to your horses and cows.... ????

 

While you were flailing your arms around you apparently forgot to make a point that is somehow related to Covid.

[cclub75]

16 minutes ago, shdmn said:

While you were flailing your arms around you apparently forgot to make a point that is somehow related to Covid.

No. I was responding to the idea that "ivermectin = animals = veterinary drug"

 

It's totally misleading. The US FDA is not doing a service to science by saying such grotesque lies.

 

Now if you want to talk about ivermectin AND Covid... that's another issue.... ????

[canthai55]

10 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Regeneran is only available under emergency FDA approval, and the long term effects are not well understood by medical researchers. 
 

in other words, irony is lost on you.

Like Covid vaccines then

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Like Covid vaccines then

Irony is lost on you.

 

 

[Danderman123]

Flawed ivermectin preprint highlights challenges of COVID drug studies

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, canthai55 said:

Can you see into the future ? Do you know why clinical trials take so long ?

I care nothing if 10 billion doses have been given. We will not know the consequences of this for years.

What would be the consequences if vaccines were not used to combat Covid-19? 

[userabcd]

13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What would be the consequences if vaccines were not used to combat Covid-19? 

Nature would take its natural course.

[Danderman123]

59 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Nature would take its natural course.

How many millions would die as nature took its course? 

[userabcd]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

How many millions would die as nature took its course? 

Nobody knows because most humans want to prolong their lives as long as possible by all means necessary.

[BritManToo]

Just now, userabcd said:

Nobody knows because most humans want to prolong their lives as long as possible by all means necessary.

Not me, I consider quality of life far more important than quantity of life.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

What would be the consequences if vaccines were not used to combat Covid-19? 

1-2% of the already extremely sick section of the population would die (maybe as much as 5%).

No big loss IMHO.

[canthai55]

Clinical trials

Phase 1 - several months

Phase 2 - several months to 2 years

Phase 3 - 1 to 4 years

FDA approval

Phase 4 - This phase is often called “Post-Approval Research and Monitoring.” After a new treatment is approved by the FDA, the pharmaceutical or device company may want to continue monitoring patients to learn more about the treatment’s longer-term effects, while comparing it against other already-approved options. It may take time for long-term side effects to appear, making this an important phase.

https://www.antidote.me/blog/how-long-do-clinical-trial-phases-take

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

1-2% of the already extremely sick section of the population would die (maybe as much as 5%).

No big loss IMHO.

You seem to be ignorant of the formerly healthy people dying from Covid. 

 

And you don't understand the distinction between chronic illnesses and acute afflictions. 

[Harveyg]

On 7/24/2021 at 2:25 AM, Harry Om said:

I'm not anti-vax.

 

However, it's well documented that people have died because of covid vaccines, that have been in use for less than a year.

 

Ivermectin has been used for over 40 years. Can someone please point me to the evidence that shows me where people have died because of Ivermectin.

 

The problem is not that it's well documented, but rather poorly communicated.  Mainstream media and govt institutions do not communicate this kind of information.  

That raises the question, why??   

 

My conclusion?: Follow the money.

[Danderman123]

You can ignore the facts:

 

The medical and scientific community agrees that vaccines are safe and effective.

 

Likewise, even completely healthy, but unvaccinated, but unvaccinated  people are dying of Covid.

[Danderman123]

On 7/24/2021 at 4:25 PM, Harry Om said:

I'm not anti-vax.

 

However, it's well documented that people have died because of covid vaccines, that have been in use for less than a year

 

"Sadly two people with confirmed TTS following the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine died in the last week."

 

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-22-07-2021

 

Ivermectin has been used for over 40 years. Can someone please point me to the evidence that shows me where people have died because of Ivermectin.

 

About one in a million people have died post vaccination.

 

Ivermectin is now causing poisonings in the US, and it can be deadly if inappropriate dosages are taken.

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, userabcd said:

Nature would take its natural course.

 

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

1-2% of the already extremely sick section of the population would die (maybe as much as 5%).

No big loss IMHO.

if you don’t consider human life to be valuable unless the person met your standards, yeah, I guess an epidemic is no big deal.

 

the problem is when you get put on the ventilator, then you don’t really get a chance to reconsider.

 

Get vaccinated.

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, Henryford said:

Exactly, a major drug would have clinical trials for 5 -10 years, especially if it was being used on pregnant women. You think they did that for fun, or maybe there was a reason.

Did the polio vaccine require 10 years of clinical trials? 
 

Basically, your implication that Covid vaccines are unsafe is not supported by the medical community. Go debate with the doctors, please.