Identical beers tasting very different

[cyril sneer]

Both identical beers in the same size bottle

 

1 bought at 7/11 and another at Family Mart

 

Production date on the bottles are only a month apart

 

One bottle tastes completely foul compared to the other, almost undrinkable 

 

Whats the reason for this? Left in the heat too long?

[Captain Monday]

Old Chang used to be incredibly inconsistent. The new not so much maybe it is more heat resistant.

When I was in Patong in July I saw people cleaning out a bar, They were washing off the dust and grime from beer bottles. How many  months cooking in the heat... Bars down there closed still

[CharlieH]

According to Mr Google a beer can deteriorate if it is not stored correctly for any period of time.

 

This suggests that perhaps it sat too long in non temp controlled environment.

 

 

[Sparktrader]

Sun and glass equals hot

[Crossy]

Yeah, I've had similar experiences, even to the point of 2 six-packs bought from the same store on the same day tasting very different, not undrinkable, just different.  I didn't check batch numbers or whatever as I didn't think I'd need the info.

 

[Sparktrader]

A month is a lot. Bottles only good 3 months in fridge. If hot go off quick. Sometimes they dont rotate stock properly. In a bar refills go to back.

[Crossy]

Many moons ago I helped behind the bar in a British Legion club (Winton and Moordown if it really matters).

 

One time during a cellar audit/clear out we found a case of something (I recall not what but it was a strong, dark ale of some kind) which was well out of date, like years!

 

We cracked a bottle and gingerly tested it, it tasted ok so we put it on the shelves.  

 

That weekend a number of the regular drinkers of said ale asked if the brewery had changed the recipe or something because this latest lot was "really rather good".

 

We did not admit to anything, nobody died, and once it was gone all the evidence was in the recycling bin

 

[Sparktrader]

Drunks no idea

Switched fosters for tooheys in taps. regulars no clue.

[Kwasaki]

14 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Yeah, I've had similar experiences, even to the point of 2 six-packs bought from the same store on the same day tasting very different, not undrinkable, just different.  I didn't check batch numbers or whatever as I didn't think I'd need the info.

 

Six pack very Oz that. ????

[VocalNeal]

Yeah others buy a case (24)

[Nojohndoe]

21 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Many moons ago I helped behind the bar in a British Legion club (Winton and Moordown if it really matters).

 

One time during a cellar audit/clear out we found a case of something (I recall not what but it was a strong, dark ale of some kind) which was well out of date, like years!

 

We cracked a bottle and gingerly tested it, it tasted ok so we put it on the shelves.  

 

That weekend a number of the regular drinkers of said ale asked if the brewery had changed the recipe or something because this latest lot was "really rather good".

 

We did not admit to anything, nobody died, and once it was gone all the evidence was in the recycling bin

 

Probably "Real" beer. Not the beer cordial in the mass consumption market.

Like  well made wines can last for years but the mass produced stuff not much. It is not intended to last, just swigged.

[Gottfrid]

Has to do with the conditions of storage in Thailand and that the ones in charge do not care. First it can be hot and cold from the factory, after that one more time from the sale point. Same does the shops. Then the beer has been stored 3 times in hot conditions and 4 times in cold. Not at all good for quality.

[Crossy]

18 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said:

Probably "Real" beer.

 

Yeah, living my formative years (at least from a beer perspective) in the south west of England definitely got me a taste for the Real Ales, being a Royal Naval Apprentice certainly helped things along too.

 

The delights coming out of Wadworth's and Ringwood Brewery are sadly missed out here ????  

[Sparktrader]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Six pack very Oz that. ????

You call them 5 packs? 555

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

 

Yeah, living my formative years (at least from a beer perspective) in the south west of England definitely got me a taste for the Real Ales, being a Royal Naval Apprentice certainly helped things along too.

 

The delights coming out of Wadworth's and Ringwood Brewery are sadly missed out here ????  

After 3 beers same same. Cold beer is cold beer.

[Sparktrader]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Yeah others buy a case (24)

Only way to buy. 

[Mickeymaus]

At wine you know good years and bad years. Here in Thailand I learned in respect of beer about good and bad production days. I have the feeling the can't produce the same quality every day. Big western companies will pretty much always produce the same taste. 

[Liverpool Lou]

Covid-19 affects the sense of taste!

[XJPSX]

My RSL had beers in one fridge that tasted different to the other. One was in the sun all day and the other wasn’t.

I have also experienced this before and it is particularly a problem in clear bottles.

If beer is left in the sun it goes bad. I would say 50% of SML I buy has no fizz even if I buy from Makro who move a lot of it.

Heat and sun will kill your beer and Thai’s just don’t store it properly away from heat.

[rwill]

Both light and heat will damage beer.  For bottled beer the darker the glass the better.

[digbeth]

It used to be well known amongst certain circles that Leo from certain terroir has particular taste, you can check this on the label on the bottle/can to see where it's made or the production no. on the unopened box in case where you can't see the label, there's multiple plant dotted around the country

the general concensus is Leo from Khonkaen is best, seconded by Nakhon Pathom and Pathum Thani 

 

it's probably down to the water source

 

if it taste off it could have been shaked or stored or transported in the heat for too long

[theoldgit]

On 8/21/2021 at 4:27 PM, Crossy said:

The delights coming out of Wadworth's and Ringwood Brewery are sadly missed out here ????  

 

I really miss my Shepherd Neame beer from Kent, especially Bishops Finger available in Sainsbury at £1.20 but I've never seen here, used to see Spitfire in Villa and Gourmet but have seen for some years.

 

I occasionally treat myself to a bottle or two of London Pride at £4.75, as opposed to £5.50 for a four pack back in the UK.

 

I've had Old Speckled Hen on draft in the British Club and in a bar in Udon Thani, quite partial to that, but only occasionally available in cans here in Hua Hin.

 

 

[VocalNeal]

7 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

Spitfire

No Fokker comes close?

[Crossy]

19 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

No Fokker comes close?

 

Control tower to a 747: “United 329 heavy, your traffic is a Fokker, one o’clock, three miles, Eastbound.”
United 239: “Approach, I’ve always wanted to say this… I’ve got the little Fokker in sight.”

 

Back on topic (beer)!

 

I spent my drinking formative years (had my first "official" pint at 18) in here 51.42281542371407, -2.2392589121672395, in the ensuing 44 years it's changed not a lot. It even has an EV charger.

 

[Bangkok Barry]

23 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

 

I really miss my Shepherd Neame beer from Kent, especially Bishops Finger available in Sainsbury at £1.20 but I've never seen here, used to see Spitfire in Villa and Gourmet but have seen for some years.

 

I occasionally treat myself to a bottle or two of London Pride at £4.75, as opposed to £5.50 for a four pack back in the UK.

 

I've had Old Speckled Hen on draft in the British Club and in a bar in Udon Thani, quite partial to that, but only occasionally available in cans here in Hua Hin.

 

 

And I really miss being able to go into any pub in the UK and be able to see a beer I've never tried before. Maybe several. Instead of going into a pub in Thailand and finding the same old, same old choice of four or five. And if you do find a pub selling any UK beers it'll cost you at least as much as in the UK. Woe is me.

[ChipButty]

I think I'll be very weary of these bars when they open back up a few week ago I bought a couple of bottles from a shop in my soi I thought I would give them a bit of support, I lived to regret that

[Andycoops]

On 8/21/2021 at 4:22 PM, Gottfrid said:

Has to do with the conditions of storage in Thailand and that the ones in charge do not care. First it can be hot and cold from the factory, after that one more time from the sale point. Same does the shops. Then the beer has been stored 3 times in hot conditions and 4 times in cold. Not at all good for quality.

Absolutely, there isn't a consistent supply chain process that keeps the beer at a standard temperature from production to shelf.

My local BigC was closed for 2 weeks for Covid cleaning, following an outbreak.

Upon reopening the shelves were stocked with beer several months old, I therefore went to Lotus to purchase my weekly beer ration, where the beer fill on the label was only several weeks ago.

[thurien]

simply don't eat somtum before having a beer...

[marcho]

I have had the same problem, Never buy a bottle of beer right next to the fluro lights in there fridges that can do it. You see trucks and pickups loaded with boxes sitting in the hot sun for hours. the ones on top of the load copping that much heat. Most of the deliverys to BigC or Makro come in covered trucks.

 

[DBath]

May be only slightly off topic, but this thread really brings back memories for me….

As an American running a project for Oracle Corp. back in the day up in the Lakes District, near Carnforth, most everyone on the team would go to the pub and sit and have 2-3 pints during lunch - man those were the days! I like beer anyways, especially Boddington’s. 
 

Many years later on a big project in Philly, PA I and my boss, who is a Brit, found this great pub near the south side where they had trivia every Tue and they also had Boddy’s on tap. We became fixtures there and many late evenings. 
 

Great memories…