Advice: Buying New Bike

[HeijoshinCool]

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Buying a new scooter in November, and have two questions:

 

1) Other than locking the handlebars, what device, reasonably priced and easy to carry/use, is a good theft deterrent?

 

2) Do I have to buy from a dealer in the same province as my residency?

 

Oh, what the heck, what is a TV thread without conflict? Let's have a 3rd question:

 

I want an automatic, not more than 65k baht.....

 

3) Which is better, Honda, or Yamaha? Why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[papa al]

1. cable and lock

2. no, easier tho

3. same

[HeijoshinCool]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:36 PM, papa al said:

1. cable and lock

2. no, easier tho

3. same

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Thanks,

 

Why is it easier in the same province?

[scubascuba3]

Disc lock, some come with attachment to ignition so you don't try to ride away with it still locked.

 

I've had a Honda Click 125i for 4 years, still really like it. Totally reliable, fast around town. Choosing 125i or 150i is really about the best colour

[LarrySR]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:36 PM, papa al said:

1. cable and lock

2. no, easier tho

3. same

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The lock jammed on my cable lock. Lucky for me it only took a few seconds to cut it off with a dull hacksaw.

[jackdd]

1. The most convenient way is theft insurance.

2. For foreigners the registration can usually only be done in the province where you live. So if the dealer is in another province it might be too much trouble for him to do this for you. You could of course do the registration yourself.

3. If buying new, Honda, higher resale value.

[guzzi850m2]

You can buy a 2 year burglar insurance from the dealer which I always did when buying a new scooter.

 

It's not a class A insurance but only cover for theft.

 

Honda or Yamaha, they are of equally good quality so get the one you like and feel comfortable on, but Honda's are bestseller in Thailand for unknown reasons. The 155cc scooters from Yamaha are faster than any Honda but nothing to worry about unless you are a boy racer. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

Wiht the advent of li-ion battery  angle grinders  all  locks  wil  become useless also any scooter can be thrown into a pick  up  locked or  not

[Rampant Rabbit]

I was  given a Zoomer X free , friend of the Wifes  leaving the country Japanese  sold  up his  business and fleet  of  bikes, only done 10k  kilometres, I changed all the bodywork for about 8k baht from puke  yellow to  red, easy to ride for sure easy to get on an off etc etc easy to maintain

[actonion]

Teenagers who live close to my home who have been arrested  many times for stealing bikes told  a police man who lives in our village they dont like  Honda PCX'S  because  they're too heavy  to lift  onto a pickup ...thats the way they steal the bikes , load them onto a pickup  and drive away seems to be less risky than playing with the ignition

[Kwasaki]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:25 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

1) Other than locking the handlebars, what device, reasonably priced and easy to carry/use, is a good theft deterrent?

 

2) Do I have to buy from a dealer in the same province as my residency?

 

3) Which is better, Honda, or Yamaha? Why?

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For convenience a disc lock with or without alarm. 

GPS tracker optional.

 

Personally I would buy a scoot private as there is a lot out there at a bargain.

 

Both as good as each other these days,  I would say you have more choice when its a Honda.

[Neilly]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:25 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

Buying a new scooter in November, and have two questions:

 

1) Other than locking the handlebars, what device, reasonably priced and easy to carry/use, is a good theft deterrent?

 

2) Do I have to buy from a dealer in the same province as my residency?

 

I3) Which is better, Honda, or Yamaha? Why?

 

 

 

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1/ Cable and lock...gives you the chance to lock it to something that doesn't move. But this is only a deterrent, if they want it, it's gone

 

2/ No you don't (I've done it twice)...but it does make the paperwork easier, during and after.

 

3/ Honda or Yam? Which has the best aftersales service where your at? Are there comparable models from both at 65k? Honda usually has the higher resale value and is my personal choice...just because ????

[scubascuba3]

  On 9/12/2021 at 1:17 AM, guzzi850m2 said:

You can buy a 2 year burglar insurance from the dealer which I always did when buying a new scooter.

 

It's not a class A insurance but only cover for theft.

 

 

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When i bought my Click that theft insurance they try and sell you was 2k or buy the 1st class elsewhere for 4k and covers loads more incl accidents, theft, 3rd party

[VocalNeal]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:25 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

I want an automatic, not more than 65k baht.....

 

3) Which is better

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Depends to an extent on how far you want to travel.  Like Mr. Rabbit, above, I have a ZoomerX. Perfect for "zooming" around town. 

 

 

[guzzi850m2]

  On 9/12/2021 at 4:09 AM, scubascuba3 said:

When i bought my Click that theft insurance they try and sell you was 2k or buy the 1st class elsewhere for 4k and covers loads more incl accidents, theft, 3rd party

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I think mine was 2k for for 2 years which is dirt cheap.

 

But yes class A is obviously much more comprehensive and I have it on my big bike and truck. 

[Kinnock]

Although I generally prefer Honda, I think an auto scooter with ABS is your best bet, so to keep within your budget, that would be Yamaha Filano.

[scubascuba3]

ABS isn't essential but a new rider should practice not grabbing the front brake and locking the front will. I reckon that's a major reason for newbie crashes, of course a dog will be blamed

[ExpatOilWorker]

I got the 2020 Yahama Aerox. 5,200 km for 50,000 baht. 

155 cc,  ABS, keyless start. Drive like a dream. Can climb a 51% gradient with a 175 kg passenger load.

Thai post ship anywhere, so you can search online across the country. 

[bluejets]

  On 9/11/2021 at 8:25 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

Which is better, Honda, or Yamaha? Why?

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Sit on it you'll find out why we went with Yamaha.

Honda seats hard as a rock, you'll get a sore butt the first few klms or so.

[scubascuba3]

  On 9/13/2021 at 12:19 AM, bluejets said:

Sit on it you'll find out why we went with Yamaha.

Honda seats hard as a rock, you'll get a sore butt the first few klms or so.

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i never found that with my Hondas

[poyai111]

Buy a bicycle. Great exercise and most won't steal because indolence is endemic but to be sure, take off the front wheel

[HeijoshinCool]

  On 9/12/2021 at 10:55 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I got the 2020 Yahama Aerox. 5,200 km for 50,000 baht. 

155 cc,  ABS, keyless start. Drive like a dream. Can climb a 51% gradient with a 175 kg passenger load.

Thai post ship anywhere, so you can search online across the country. 

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What kind of condition does it arrive in if you mail it?!

[richard_smith237]

  On 9/13/2021 at 12:52 AM, poyai111 said:

Buy a bicycle. Great exercise and most won't steal because indolence is endemic but to be sure, take off the front wheel

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Useful info... ????

 

Poster: Hi... I’m looking for the best burger in town...

 

Answer from poyai111: drink water, its healthier than a burger !

 

[richard_smith237]

  On 9/13/2021 at 1:28 AM, HeijoshinCool said:

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What kind of condition does it arrive in if you mail it?!

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Used with 5,200 km on the clock, I imagine !... 

 

Bikes are mailed all the time in Thailand - there are a couple of threads from people who have done so (also some webpages).

[BTB1977]

Honda has the market share of 75% of all  bikes sold in Thailand.  Around 1.4 million.  Next is Yamaha with only over 200,000. Most cities have several Honda dealers.  Yamaha maybe one. You see where I'm going with this. 

[actonion]

  On 9/13/2021 at 12:52 AM, poyai111 said:

Buy a bicycle. Great exercise and most won't steal because indolence is endemic but to be sure, take off the front wheel

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Or take off the saddle

 

[CharlieH]

Our Honda click is 11 yrs old. If you dont really intend on ever selling it and you have the dealer support in your area I think one is as good as the other.

If you do see yourself changing, go with Honda, as others have said, higher resale value.

 

Deterrant wise, chain to a post etc as its less likely to get lifted (literally). Most are opportunist, if its targetted for a reason, not much will stop it.

 

[canthai55]

People always compare bike - most auto scooter threads start with "How does --- compare with the PCX"

The reason - they always compare it to the best available model, not the worst.

Never been a fan of Click or any flat floor model - altho if I wore a dress I would look for one.

[brianthainess]

  On 9/12/2021 at 9:23 PM, scubascuba3 said:

ABS isn't essential but a new rider should practice not grabbing the front brake and locking the front will. I reckon that's a major reason for newbie crashes, of course a dog will be blamed

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But how can you not grab the front brake, if holding an umbrella, baby, and look at my phone, said my neighbour.       

[inThailand]

Save up to buy something better than a girlie bike?