Flying to Bangkok after October 1st.

[bestie]

Hi,

I'm reading that they pushing to re-open Bangkok for tourists by October 1st. under the No Quarantine "Sandbox Scheme".

That would mean that vaccinated people against Covid 19 are allowed to come in without undergoing a 7 or 14-day quarantine.

 

Does it also mean that unvaccinated people can't come in anymore? Are there any news on that? 

 

Thank you!

 

 

[MrJ2U]

1 minute ago, bestie said:

Does it also mean that unvaccinated people can't come in anymore? Are there any news on that? 

Unvaccinated people will be unwelcome.

 

Get vaccinated.

[bestie]

Just now, MrJ2U said:

Unvaccinated people will be unwelcome.

 

Get vaccinated.

Thank you but I'm sorry but that was not the question

[ubonjoe]

At this time being vaccinated will not be required but you will have to do the 14 day quarantine.

Being vaccinated may mean a short quarantine after the first covid 19 test is needed.

Nothing about Bangkok and other places has not been finalized or approved yet.

[DrJack54]

42 minutes ago, bestie said:

I'm reading that they pushing to re-open Bangkok for tourists by October 1st. under the No Quarantine "Sandbox Scheme"

Currently suggestion only. 

Nothing has changed. 

 

If anyone can hold off travel to Thailand perhaps a good idea as at some point quarantine for fully vaccinated folk would be replaced by restrictions such as remain in certain area for a period of time. 

Stay is own chosen accom etc.

Can't see that by Oct 1

 

As for traveling unvaccinated, I think most would be advising that's crazy and perhaps irresponsible. 

Not sure airline policies on that.

Anyone have updates?

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by DrJack54

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, bestie said:

Thank you but I'm sorry but that was not the question

 

A good answer though.

 

I am not sure how easy getting a COE would be without being fully vaccinated.

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

I am not sure how easy getting a COE would be without being fully vaccinated.

I suspect (just speculation) entry conditions will be as follows: 

 

Fully vaccinated individuals:

- No quarantine / PCR test on arrival

 

Unvaccinated individuals:

- Quarantine & 2x PCR tests

 

I suspect the CoE requirement will have to continue to oversee the ‘vaccination status’ of those traveling to Thailand. 
 

Once and internationally recognized vaccine passport has been established the CoE requirement may be removed.

 

Those without may have to quarantine on arrival (& PCR tests). 

 

 

[hotandsticky]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I suspect (just speculation) entry conditions will be as follows: 

 

Fully vaccinated individuals:

- No quarantine / PCR test on arrival

 

Unvaccinated individuals:

- Quarantine & 2x PCR tests

 

I suspect the CoE requirement will have to continue to oversee the ‘vaccination status’ of those traveling to Thailand. 
 

Once and internationally recognized vaccine passport has been established the CoE requirement may be removed.

 

Those without may have to quarantine on arrival (& PCR tests). 

 

 

 

 

Excellent post..........................and that would enable Thailand to open up again.

 

 

Anti-vaxxers are very much secondary to that objective - but your proposal does not deny them entry.

 

I am not sure where they would stand on Covid insurance? Premiums must surely be much higher?

[stigar]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I suspect (just speculation) entry conditions will be as follows: 

 

Fully vaccinated individuals:

- No quarantine / PCR test on arrival

 

Unvaccinated individuals:

- Quarantine & 2x PCR tests

 

I suspect the CoE requirement will have to continue to oversee the ‘vaccination status’ of those traveling to Thailand. 
 

Once and internationally recognized vaccine passport has been established the CoE requirement may be removed.

 

Those without may have to quarantine on arrival (& PCR tests). 

 

 

I hope so.Anyway have to wait and see until their friday meeting.

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, bestie said:

Does it also mean that unvaccinated people can't come in anymore? Are there any news on that? 

The most likely scenario is that, at some point, keeping the quarantine option in place for only unvaccinated arrivals won't make sense anymore. So I wouldn't be surprised if unvaccinated people can't come in anymore.

[DrJack54]

In addition carriers in future may require evidence of full vaccination to issue boarding pass etc.

Time will tell. 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by DrJack54

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

In addition carriers in future may require evidence of full vaccination to issue boarding pass etc.

Time will tell. 

 

 

The major issue with vaccine cert / passports is for those who genuinely would get a vaccine, but can’t for medical reasons (allergies etc). 
 

But, if I’m not mistaken, different variations of vaccines are being produced when do not cause the anaphylaxis in those who would otherwise suffer with the conventional vaccines. 
Of course, these ‘fringe anti-allergenic’ vaccines would also need to be recognized across boarders. 
 

The world has changed. 
I wonder if the change is permanent, or if maintaining controls is going to be too difficult vs the risks and we will slip back to the pre-covid norms 

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, bestie said:

Thank you but I'm sorry but that was not the question

Your welcome.

 

"Fully vaccinated foreign travellers will be allowed to visit Thailand for tourism purposes from 1 October, said the kingdom in a statement on Friday."

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/thailand-on-mind-fully-vaccinated-tourists-allowed-to-visit-from-1-october-11631277317079.html

 

You'll need to be vaccinated to get travel insurance as well.

 

Make sure you bring vaccine records.  You'll need them to eat at restaurants and stay at most upscale hotels also.

 

Great time to visit.

 

not hordes of visitors and the prices are very reasonable for excellent accommodation.

 

good luck!

 

 

[MrJ2U]

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The major issue with vaccine cert / passports is for those who genuinely would get a vaccine, but can’t for medical reasons (allergies etc). 
 

But, if I’m not mistaken, different variations of vaccines are being produced when do not cause the anaphylaxis in those who would otherwise suffer with the conventional vaccines. 
Of course, these ‘fringe anti-allergenic’ vaccines would also need to be recognized across boarders. 
 

The world has changed. 
I wonder if the change is permanent, or if maintaining controls is going to be too difficult vs the risks and we will slip back to the pre-covid norms 

It won't ever slip back.

 

COVID-19 is going to be like getting a flu shot.

 

There going to combine them actually.

 

Its endemic.

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

The major issue with vaccine cert / passports is for those who genuinely would get a vaccine, but can’t for medical reasons (allergies etc). 

Thinking many countries will do this.....

That is folk will obtain exemption to any vaccination requirements based on Medical, Religious beliefs, or whatever else they can come up with.

The medical one (if genuine) is in the "fair enough basket"

Most others just a load of rubbish. Test it in court perhaps coming sooner rather that later.

[MrJ2U]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Currently suggestion only. 

Nothing has changed. 

 

If anyone can hold off travel to Thailand perhaps a good idea as at some point quarantine for fully vaccinated folk would be replaced by restrictions such as remain in certain area for a period of time. 

Stay is own chosen accom etc.

Can't see that by Oct 1

 

As for traveling unvaccinated, I think most would be advising that's crazy and perhaps irresponsible. 

Not sure airline policies on that.

Anyone have updates?

 

 

And add restrictions that will be in place in transiting countries.

 

"perhaps irresponsible."

 

Not perhaps.

It is irresponsible.

 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

And add restrictions that will be in place in transiting countries.

 

"perhaps irresponsible."

 

Not perhaps.

It is irresponsible.

 

I have been trying to be more polite on AseanNow. 

It's hard. Don't pull me back to the dark side Lord Vader.

What if I change it to "VERY irresponsible".

[MrJ2U]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

trying to be more polite

Same here.

 

 

[bestie]

4 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

And add restrictions that will be in place in transiting countries.

 

"perhaps irresponsible."

 

Not perhaps.

It is irresponsible.

 

I don't know why some are so triggered when someone decided not to take the vaccine by his/her own choice or for whatever reason. I mean the only person who is taking the risk is the person who is unvaccinated. Especially if you take a test before flying, going to a restaurant or whatever. I don't get it why it's irresponsible it should be everyone's freedom to decide if they they want to take it or not. Another story is what rules will follow by the Gov. If Thailand decide to let unvaccinated people in, like they did the whole time and they get into 2weeks quarantine, what's the problem. I don't think that means they are unwelcome right now. I'm sure this this will end some time. My question was only ...will end by October. ? Maybe we know Friday more. 

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, bestie said:

I don't know why some are so triggered when someone decided not to take the vaccine by his/her own choice or for whatever reason. I mean the only person who is taking the risk is the person who is unvaccinated. Especially if you take a test before flying, going to a restaurant or whatever. I don't get it why it's irresponsible it should be everyone's freedom to decide if they they want to take it or not. Another story is what rules will follow by the Gov. If Thailand decide to let unvaccinated people in, like they did the whole time and they get into 2weeks quarantine, what's the problem. I don't think that means they are unwelcome right now. I'm sure this this will end some time. My question was only ...will end by October. ? Maybe we know Friday more. 

Ugh. 

 

Just admit your an anti vaxer.

 

Not worth my breath arguing the merits of getting your vaccine.

Edited September 15, 2021 by MrJ2U

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, bestie said:

I don't know why some are so triggered when someone decided not to take the vaccine by his/her own choice or for whatever reason. I mean the only person who is taking the risk is the person who is unvaccinated.

The premise that being unvaccinated does not increase risks for others you come in contact with is false. You have a higher risk of asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic infection, and passing the virus on to others if you are unvaccinated.

 

I personally have no objection to people ingesting hallucinogenic drugs in the isolation of their own homes. However, I object virulently to someone under the influence getting behind the steering wheel of a car. Sure, doing so is a bigger risk to the drugged up driver, but pretending it involves no risk to others is just stupid. 

[Misty]

3 hours ago, bestie said:

I don't know why some are so triggered when someone decided not to take the vaccine by his/her own choice or for whatever reason. I mean the only person who is taking the risk is the person who is unvaccinated.

Not true. COVID replicates quicker in unvaccinated people, increasing the chance of mutations.  That's how we got delta.

[DrJack54]

Interesting release re Bangkok seem not requiring quarantine from Oct 15.

Some links available. Here is one. Courtesy @anchadian

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by DrJack54

[anchadian]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Interesting release re Bangkok not requiring quarantine from Oct 15.

Some links available. Here is one. Courtesy @anchadian

 

 

And here's the full article in English:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/15/thai-tourism-minister-and-bangkok-governor-state-bangkok-will-be-ready-to-welcome-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-without-quarantine-from-october-15th/

[Skeptic7]

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I have been trying to be more polite on AseanNow. 

It's hard. Don't pull me back to the dark side Lord Vader.

What if I change it to "VERY irresponsible".

 

16 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Same here.

 

 

Well that's no fun! 

[vukovar77]

20 hours ago, bestie said:

Thank you but I'm sorry but that was not the question

But it is the answer.It is not likely that you can even come to Thailand if not vaccinated.

[Tropposurfer]

21 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Unvaccinated people will be unwelcome.

 

Get vaccinated.

Ditto stay wherever you are and be unvaccinated. Don't come to this country unvaccinated thank you very much.

[kg1947]

20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I suspect (just speculation) entry conditions will be as follows: 

Fully vaccinated individuals:

- No quarantine / PCR test on arrival

Unvaccinated individuals:

- Quarantine & 2x PCR tests

Those without may have to quarantine on arrival (& PCR tests). 

So .... the PCR Test although " faulty " is still in use .... giving " false positives " greatttttt   !!   easy way to make money  ......

Edited September 16, 2021 by kg1947
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[chilli42]

Nothing has been announced but I would guess that the unvaccinated will not be eligible for a tourist visa.  Regardless, whatever the opening plan is, be it October or later, it’s likely going to suck … these people want your money in their terms.  Expect bans on this and that.  Honestly, unless you are trying to get back to Thailand to reunite with family, just drop the idea.  Maybe the end of 2022 would be a reasonable time to holiday here.

[scorecard]

22 hours ago, bestie said:

Thank you but I'm sorry but that was not the question

But it's relevant and good advice.