5 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

Kind of a twisted tale there about VW in China - why is the joint-venture between VW and SAIC (yes, that SAIC that also builds today's MG's!) kept out of the entire report?

Perhaps MG is SAIC cheap brand...

I tried to drive a MG today !

Really can't stop laughing even more !

Really you call this a car ?!

Even a Toyota could be better...

40 minutes ago, ThaiSanookGuy said:

I tried to drive a MG today !

Really can't stop laughing even more !

Really you call this a car ?!

Even a Toyota could be better...

Even could learn to drive.... 

1 hour ago, ThaiSanookGuy said:

I tried to drive a MG today !

Really can't stop laughing even more !

Really you call this a car ?!

Even a Toyota could be better...

Sounds like you are in need of some lessons then !!

1 hour ago, ThaiSanookGuy said:

I tried to drive a MG today !

Really can't stop laughing even more !

Really you call this a car ?!

Even a Toyota could be better...

Which vehicle ?

3 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said:

I tried to drive a MG today !

Really can't stop laughing even more !

Really you call this a car ?!

Even a Toyota could be better...

Another China basher without any reason explaining what and why. Booooooring...

6 minutes ago, CLW said:

Another China basher without any reason explaining what and why. Booooooring...

I don't think he "bashed" China, you can show me if you like where...????

12 minutes ago, CLW said:

Another China basher without any reason explaining what and why. Booooooring...

Had a bit of a dig at Toyota as well !!

On 11/4/2021 at 12:40 PM, transam said:

Perhaps MG is SAIC cheap brand...

I think that would be the Wuling line, also badged as Chevy (Enjoy & N400).

 

They even make a nice EV, though as usual, 2X the cost in Thailand vs China, so not the best value in Thailand, when you can spend 50k more, and get an ICE (Suzuki Celerio) w/600-700 kms range

https://th.carro.co/blog/wuling-hongguang-mini-ev-2021/ 

On 10/18/2021 at 6:44 PM, leba said:

 

 

hahahaha, thank you, I can't stop laughing ❤️

 

 

there is medication for that

My farang friend and his Thai wife bought the SUV model ZS.

I have only ridden in it a couple times, but it seems to be good vehicle (nice lighting, aircon, electronics, decent power). I asked them, and they said they are happy with it.

Hey, a lot of the parts (plastics, electronics) used in building other EU, US, etc. brands come from China. 

Keep on laughing while the Chines eat your lunch, These cars are build to western standards with western  assembly technology , If I was a US , Japanese. or European car producer I would be very very concerned. 

I would have no problem buying a an MG or a Haval (GWM)  for sale here in Thailand. 

The Haval  H6 hybrid for sale at 1.2 million baht kicks ass, If I had nor just bought a car I would certainly buy it, I an still thinking of trading my les than year old car in for one.  

Very happy with my MG6. It is solidly built and runs great.

 

You know the problem with Chinese cars? No? It's a Chinese car. Come on, have just a little bit of self respect.

On 10/18/2021 at 6:44 PM, leba said:

 

 

hahahaha, thank you, I can't stop laughing ❤️

 

 

https://www.whatcar.com/news/the-most-reliable-car-brands-in-2021-and-the-least/n23438#1

 

See what's in #10, then see what comes after that...

3 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

https://www.whatcar.com/news/the-most-reliable-car-brands-in-2021-and-the-least/n23438#1

 

See what's in #10, then see what comes after that...

A very interesting link which highlights just how ‘off’ my bias is....

 

Lexus #1 for reliability - kind of expected...

But next is Dacia, Hyundai, Suzuki  - none of which I have ever considered buying. 

 

Whats more surprising is how far ‘down’ the reliability table Audi, Volvo, BMW and Mercedes are... 

 

That said: The top 25 cars have a ‘customer’ reliability rating from 98.7% to 89.4%

 

 

21 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

https://www.whatcar.com/news/the-most-reliable-car-brands-in-2021-and-the-least/n23438#1

 

See what's in #10, then see what comes after that...

Yes, number 10 is the MG ZS EV. 

 

I'm not surprised. I have had one for almost two and a half years.

 

Great car! Couldn't be happier with it.

Glad What Car referred to the MG as "China's MG"..........????

BANGKOK: 24 Dec. 2021 — Among 217 problem areas assessed by new-vehicle owners, 59% of the total problems reported are related to design, according to the J.D. Power 2021 Thailand Initial Quality Study (IQS), SM released today.

https://www.jdpower.com/sites/default/files/file/2021-12/2021179 Thailand IQS.pdf

 

Cars built in the US are designed and tweaked for US market

Cars built in Europe are designed and tweaked for European market

 

16 minutes ago, macahoom said:

Yes, number 10 is the MG ZS EV. 

 

I'm not surprised. I have had one for almost two and a half years.

 

Great car! Couldn't be happier with it.

Same ... very happy, though only had ZS for 27k kms.  Best value out there IMHO.

 

As far as being 'China made', that's the best thing that ever happened to the MGs.  When I first saw them on Thai roads a few years back, first thought was 'hell no', they were unreliable back when. 

 

Then found out, SAIC was producing them and had to take a peek and quite glad I did ????

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Same ... very happy, though only had ZS for 27k kms.  Best value out there IMHO.

 

As far as being 'China made', that's the best thing that ever happened to the MGs.  When I first saw them on Thai roads a few years back, first thought was 'hell no', they were unreliable back when. 

 

Then found out, SAIC was producing them and had to take a peek and quite glad I did ????

Well yes, it is a Chinese car using a British brand name and Union Jack....????

Shame really, they could have been name adventurous like, "Rick Shaw Rides"....????

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Well yes, it is a Chinese car using a British brand name and Union Jack....????

Shame really, they could have been name adventurous like, "Rick Shaw Rides"....????

As stated before, badge / name could be anything as far as I'm concerned.  Brit / UJ / MG was actually a turn off for me.  'RSR' would have been cool ????

 

Funny works for me.  I got a DECO SUSU, made in China.  Do you really think I care.

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

As stated before, badge / name could be anything as far as I'm concerned.  Brit / UJ / MG was actually a turn off for me.  'RSR' would have been cool ????

 

Funny works for me.  I got a DECO SUSU, made in China.  Do you really think I care.

Well no, just don't use it very often....????........????

1 minute ago, transam said:

Well no, just don't use it very often....????........????

On the DECO 2X a day, everyday, if not more.  ZS, when needed / wanting, since having the DECO.  I'll take 2 wheels over 4 most times around town.

52 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

BANGKOK: 24 Dec. 2021 — Among 217 problem areas assessed by new-vehicle owners, 59% of the total problems reported are related to design, according to the J.D. Power 2021 Thailand Initial Quality Study (IQS), SM released today.

https://www.jdpower.com/sites/default/files/file/2021-12/2021179 Thailand IQS.pdf

 

Cars built in the US are designed and tweaked for US market

Cars built in Europe are designed and tweaked for European market

 

Nothing about reliability just load wingers opinions.

On 10/18/2021 at 1:02 PM, leba said:

 

Avoiding buying chinese cars is very easy !

Oh really? Then I suggest you check out where a high percentage of the parts used to make other brands are made.

1 minute ago, KhaoYai said:

Oh really? Then I suggest you check out where a high percentage of the parts used to make other brands are made.

That has nothing to do with a product, MG, being 100% Chinese...????

I thought I’d never be interested in a Chinese car....  

 

Then, I saw the little Ora Ev car (the size of a Yaris)... and thought that it was interesting... 

 

I even discussed with the wife the possibility of nipping out and picking one up... just for local trips, not for express way use (as its too small, I want something larger), which means it wouldn’t be a school run vehicle as we need to take the expressway to take our son to school.

 

But...  I found it out its nearly 1 Million Baht !!!!!.... BOOM !!! no way... I was thinking about 350,000 baht !!!!

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I thought I’d never be interested in a Chinese car....  

 

Then, I saw the little Ora Ev car (the size of a Yaris)... and thought that it was interesting... 

 

I even discussed with the wife the possibility of nipping out and picking one up... just for local trips, not for express way use (as its too small, I want something larger), which means it wouldn’t be a school run vehicle as we need to take the expressway to take our son to school.

 

But...  I found it out its nearly 1 Million Baht !!!!!.... BOOM !!! no way... I was thinking about 350,000 baht !!!!

 

 

 

 

There's one floating around near me, Mrs.T thought it amusing....????....But it is the future...

The Chinese are very clever. They took a well known brand, re-designed it, and are selling it at a price that appeals to many. The fact that it has a very underpowered engine, and is of low quality does not seem to deter many who want to "have the look". It would appear that many car reviewers and users seem to agree, all the money is on the outside of the car.