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Why so many chinese cars MG cars ? do people only care to buy something cheap, whatever is the quality ?

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2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

MG ZS EV Launched June 2019 priced  1.19 million baht. 

I think you posted last year that your wife went to a dealer where she was quoted price of B599K for MG ZS EV D model

Again with that ... and again with reply ...  have yet to know of, or read of anyone getting one at that price.   Along with if a showroom or reps vehicle.  At that price, for new, never farted in, they would have run out of, a long time ago.

 

Our, 2022 upgrade was ฿949k, and now I think they are ฿829k, and why they aren't selling.  As the S5, which I finally saw close up, and really nice, and only ฿739k, on sale now for ฿719k.

 

Anyone thinking of a new car, that would be my choice.

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20 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Again with that ... and again with reply ...  have yet to know of, or read of anyone getting one at that price.   Along with if a showroom or reps vehicle.  At that price, for new, never farted in, they would have run out of, a long time ago.

 

Our, 2022 upgrade was ฿949k, and now I think they are ฿829k, and why they aren't selling.  As the S5, which I finally saw close up, and really nice, and only ฿739k, on sale now for ฿719k.

 

Anyone thinking of a new car, that would be my choice.

Nothing wrong with them, they also come with a 10-year warranty.

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Again with that ... and again with reply ...  have yet to know of, or read of anyone getting one at that price.   Along with if a showroom or reps vehicle.  At that price, for new, never farted in, they would have run out of, a long time ago.

 

Our, 2022 upgrade was ฿949k, and now I think they are ฿829k, and why they aren't selling.  As the S5, which I finally saw close up, and really nice, and only ฿739k, on sale now for ฿719k.

 

Anyone thinking of a new car, that would be my choice.

You seem to be dimissing the information that your local dealer provided to your wife

August 24, 2024

350,000 baht discount, stock clearance sale! MG ZS EV 100% electric car: 599,000 – 699,000 baht (imported CBU from China)

Clearance Sale, discounts up to 350,000 baht for the MG ZS EV, a 100% electric car, remaining 599,000 - 699,000 baht, only some colors, some models, and some dealers remaining. * Special price MG ZS EV, discount 350,000 baht for the D model and discount 324,000 baht for the X Sunroof model. 

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-discount-mg-zs-ev-july2024/

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Yes, MG is considered a legacy automaker due to its nearly century-long history and significant impact on the automotive industry, particularly as a maker of iconic British sports cars. Founded in 1924, MG has a rich heritage and a global brand identity, which continues to inspire drivers today through innovative and affordable vehicles, including electric models

34 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

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Yes, MG is considered a legacy automaker due to its nearly century-long history and significant impact on the automotive industry, particularly as a maker of iconic British sports cars. Founded in 1924, MG has a rich heritage and a global brand identity, which continues to inspire drivers today through innovative and affordable vehicles, including electric models

I'll have to specify in the future ...

... non Chinese legacy auto maker

... or better, crap from Europe, USA & JP

 

Hard to beat these, S5 & MG4 w/lifetime battery warranty

Obviously still trying to rid stock of EP & ZS

 

MG ES on sale for 899k, but wouldn't be a consideration for us.

 

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9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Again with that ... and again with reply ...  have yet to know of, or read of anyone getting one at that price.   Along with if a showroom or reps vehicle.  At that price, for new, never farted in, they would have run out of, a long time ago.

 

Our, 2022 upgrade was ฿949k, and now I think they are ฿829k, and why they aren't selling.  As the S5, which I finally saw close up, and really nice, and only ฿739k, on sale now for ฿719k.

 

Anyone thinking of a new car, that would be my choice.

Pal just bought a MG3 hybrid, 570kbht ...... cash discount 70kbht = 500kbht.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Pal just bought a MG3 hybrid, 570kbht ...... cash discount 70kbht = 500kbht.

That would be a very fun car to be sporting around town in 👍

 

0 to 100 km/h in  8.0 seconds.

 

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China now makes world-standard cars, in fact they are leading the way. 

However, price is more nuanced than many think..... China supports its auto export industry through direct and indirect subsidies, including cash grants, R&D funding, tax breaks, low-interest loans, and preferential tax treatment for exporters. China also employs strategies like incentivising the export of zero-mileage new cars and using a credit system to pressure manufacturers into producing EVs for both domestic and international markets. These government policies provide significant advantages to Chinese automakers, lowering production costs and boosting export competitiveness.

The hilarious part is that Trump is exacerbating the western market problems by introducing tariffs – the Chinese just laugh at this and it becomes n incentive,  as even with ariffs, their  cars are better value and better made than anything on the US home brand market.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Pal just bought a MG3 hybrid, 570kbht ...... cash discount 70kbht = 500kbht.

 

Was that new? they are 619k on the MG website

12 minutes ago, proton said:

Was that new? they are 619k on the MG website

New, lowest trim spec.

I saw 579k on the mg website, but he says discounted to 500k for cash.

They made the offer by email after he had a test drive then walked away.

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25 minutes ago, kwilco said:

China now makes world-standard cars, in fact they are leading the way. 

However, price is more nuanced than many think..... China supports its auto export industry through direct and indirect subsidies, including cash grants, R&D funding, tax breaks, low-interest loans, and preferential tax treatment for exporters. China also employs strategies like incentivising the export of zero-mileage new cars and using a credit system to pressure manufacturers into producing EVs for both domestic and international markets. These government policies provide significant advantages to Chinese automakers, lowering production costs and boosting export competitiveness.

The hilarious part is that Trump is exacerbating the western market problems by introducing tariffs – the Chinese just laugh at this and it becomes n incentive,  as even with ariffs, their  cars are better value and better made than anything on the US home brand market.


I want this.

https://electrek.co/2025/08/26/byds-ferrari-slaying-supercar-shatters-ev-speed-record/

37 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

New, lowest trim spec.

I saw 579k on the mg website, but he says discounted to 500k for cash.

They made the offer by email after he had a test drive then walked away.

499k is the standard price now. MG are just more discreet with their discounts to existing models than BYD to avoid annoying the previous buyers.

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19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

People buy them, simply tired of being ripped off, by legacy auto makers, for over priced and under performing POS.  

 

All these major price cuts, as they try to stay in the market with CN, and surly they're still making some profits.  That's how over priced they were in past.  

What major price cuts?

27 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What major price cuts?

Ms Google is your friend, unless you want me pull up all the entry level ICEV, that now start <600k, instead of 650K.  

 

2020 and you'd be hard pressed to find a 1.5L entry sedan, AT, for less than 650k.   Five years later and most are now.   And they have to be, as entry level BEV are now <600k, with better tech, ad much better performance.   Along with lower operating & maintenance cost.

 

2020 is when we switch from crap badged from JP (Toyota & Mazda @ 650k), made in TH, to the ICE version of the MG ZS.   A mere 50k THB more, and and what a difference all around, both comfort & performance.   So upgrading to the 2022 BEV was a no brainer for us, when 2019 ZS EV was upgraded & incentives given. 

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

China now makes world-standard cars, in fact they are leading the way. 

However, price is more nuanced than many think..... China supports its auto export industry through direct and indirect subsidies, including cash grants, R&D funding, tax breaks, low-interest loans, and preferential tax treatment for exporters. China also employs strategies like incentivising the export of zero-mileage new cars and using a credit system to pressure manufacturers into producing EVs for both domestic and international markets. These government policies provide significant advantages to Chinese automakers, lowering production costs and boosting export competitiveness.

The hilarious part is that Trump is exacerbating the western market problems by introducing tariffs – the Chinese just laugh at this and it becomes n incentive,  as even with ariffs, their  cars are better value and better made than anything on the US home brand market.

 

BYD ships over 900 Thailand-made Dolphin EVs to Europe for the first time — marking a major step in its global expansion 🌍📦
BYD has exported electric vehicles from its Thailand plant to Europe for the first time, marking a significant milestone in its global expansion strategy. More than 900 BYD Dolphin EVs were loaded onto the company’s Zhengzhou car carrier and dispatched to the UK, Germany, and Belgium. 

 

 

6 hours ago, mistral53 said:

 

BYD ships over 900 Thailand-made Dolphin EVs to Europe for the first time — marking a major step in its global expansion 🌍📦
BYD has exported electric vehicles from its Thailand plant to Europe for the first time, marking a significant milestone in its global expansion strategy. More than 900 BYD Dolphin EVs were loaded onto the company’s Zhengzhou car carrier and dispatched to the UK, Germany, and Belgium. 

 

 

Several Chinese car manufacturers have already established or are establishing manufacturing facilities in Thailand, including BYD, Great Wall Motor (GWM), SAIC (MG), Neta, GAC Aion, Changan, and Chery. These investments are transforming Thailand into a regional production hub for right-hand-drive vehicles, with a focus on electric vehicles (EVs) - e.g UK. Oz,, NZ Japan etc etc

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

Several Chinese car manufacturers have already established or are establishing manufacturing facilities in Thailand, including BYD, Great Wall Motor (GWM), SAIC (MG), Neta, GAC Aion, Changan, and Chery. These investments are transforming Thailand into a regional production hub for right-hand-drive vehicles, with a focus on electric vehicles (EVs) - e.g UK. Oz,, NZ Japan etc etc

BYD has exported electric vehicles (EVs) from its production base in Thailand for the first time, beginning with the Dolphin left-hand drive model. 

The first batch of 959 cars is destined for the European market, including Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands.

Initially, the plant was designed to serve as a right-hand drive production hub for the domestic market and right-hand drive ASEAN countries. However, BYD has now decided to extend output to left-hand drive models for export.

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40054464

 

21 hours ago, matchar said:

499k is the standard price now. MG are just more discreet with their discounts to existing models than BYD to avoid annoying the previous buyers.

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Special price calculated from the NEW MG3 Hybrid+ D model, regular price 579,900 baht, available for the first 20 units only (after dealer discounts).

20 units is quite low ... how do they count it ? Per dealer, per province or in the country ?

22 hours ago, proton said:

Was that new? they are 619k on the MG website

You have to open the 'promotion' page for the prices, @ 499k  

https://www.mgcars.com/en/promotions

 

List price is ...

 

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On 8/27/2025 at 5:24 PM, josephbloggs said:

 

I saw one of those at a trade show last year at BITEC.  Beautiful car, but at the time I didn't realize that YangWang is owned by BYD.  I thought it was a fly by night company.  I'm not in the market for a $250K (USD) supercar, but if the doctors gave me a year to live (and Tesla's 0-100 in 1.9 second roadster isn't available yet), I'd jump on one.  I'm staying mostly in China and am a big fan of the BYD's.

 

 

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I think this thread hasn't aged well.  

 

When MG first entered the Thai market, they did so with substandard quality cars and developed a reputation for that, deservedly so.

 

Since they introduced their electric car range, the quality has improved enormously.  I don't think they are any different to any other Chinese manufacturer and probably on a par with German quality.

 

There can be no doubt that Chinese EV manufacturers are a generation ahead of the Western & Eastern competitors.

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I think all over the world now,  many would rather be seen in a chinese EV rather then in a Tesla.

4 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think this thread hasn't aged well.  

 

When MG first entered the Thai market, they did so with substandard quality cars and developed a reputation for that, deservedly so.

 

Since they introduced their electric car range, the quality has improved enormously.  I don't think they are any different to any other Chinese manufacturer and probably on a par with German quality.

 

There can be no doubt that Chinese EV manufacturers are a generation ahead of the Western & Eastern competitors.

Since most bought the entry level, low end MG3, yes, substandard, BUT, on par with the low end JP badged entry level cars, March, Celerio, Mirage.   All are simply ... 'you get what you pay for', as I looked at all, and simply went one crap level up, to Vios & Mazda 2.   Better, but still substandard.

 

Why did I buy then ... basically walk away investment, as undecided if staying in TH, and no major loss if having to sell cheap and make a quick exit from TH.

 

Once I actually decided to stay in TH, simply spent the extra 50k THB at the time, and got the MG ZS.  Upgrading later to the BEV, when the ZS BEV itself was upgraded, as all BEV were when better tech was available.

On 8/28/2025 at 2:10 PM, khunphil said:

Special price calculated from the NEW MG3 Hybrid+ D model, regular price 579,900 baht, available for the first 20 units only (after dealer discounts).

20 units is quite low ... how do they count it ? Per dealer, per province or in the country ?

I'm guessing only 20 nationwide for the special racing edition paintwork. But I expect there are plenty of the regular colours at 499k.

 

I think the MG 4 is a much better buy if you can afford the extra though. Or second hand they start from around 400k.

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Why .... because they make better vehicles than non Chinese legacy auto makers.  Time to wake up people :coffee1:

 

MG taking top and 8th of top 10 registered BEV in TH in August.  

 

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MG is the most popular because of build quality. That it is also the cheapest is just a cowinkiedink. 

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52 minutes ago, ravip said:

House fire that started in Toyota RAV4 destroys family’s home in southwest Sydney

 

https://7news.com.au/news/house-fire-that-started-in-toyota-rav4-destroys-familys-home-in-southwest-sydney-c-19923417

 

So... what is it that these EV's are starting fires, whatever the brand is?

Cause of fire unknown ... if even from the car ?

 

... "The fire is believed to have originated from a hybrid Toyota RAV4 that Soto purchased a year ago.

“They believe it came from the car,” he said.' ...

 

Leave to Toyota (always behind) not to use LFP battery chemistry in their PHEV.  Only 2 years old, so the tech was available (if bought new), as our BEV has LFP, and knocking on 3 yrs old.

 

... "while the RAV4 Prime (PHEV) and other modern trims use more efficient Lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries, specifically a form of Li-ion with a Nickel-Cobalt Aluminum (NCA)" ...

 

Maybe next year Toyota will catch up to the rest of the EV market ... maybe :cheesy:

 

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... "The Toyota RAV4 is manufactured in Japan, Canada, and the United States" ...

 

That's why China PHEV, HEV, BEV are leading the auto industry.

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On 9/6/2025 at 3:45 AM, ravip said:

House fire that started in Toyota RAV4 destroys family’s home in southwest Sydney

 

https://7news.com.au/news/house-fire-that-started-in-toyota-rav4-destroys-familys-home-in-southwest-sydney-c-19923417

 

So... what is it that these EV's are starting fires, whatever the brand is?

How is this relevant to a discussion on Chinese and/or MG cars? 

 

A Toyota is neither.

On 9/5/2025 at 7:24 PM, Yellowtail said:

MG is the most popular because of build quality. That it is also the cheapest is just a cowinkiedink. 

Well, in OZ, you get a 10-year warranty 

We may be able to buy them in Canada pretty soon.  The gov't is talking about dropping tariffs on them.  They certainly can't be any worse than American-made crap.

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