Thailand Pass To Entice More International Tourists

[Pravda]

12 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Better if they make own travel bubble in airport! Use ATK test and put peple who get positive test result in PCR test. All other can wait in bubble.

 

 

[JCP108]

Just now, hotchilli said:

Changing the COE for another system achieves nothing...

Changing it to make it even more cumbersome might dissuade even more travelers from coming to Thailand.

[USNret]

12 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

It can happen 

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

According to the Foreign Ministry, the Thailand Pass system is web-based and designed to make the documentation process for people entering Thailand more efficient. This system collects both travel and health information and will help facilitate the filing of TM6 and T8 forms.

Your information is currently in the IN-Tray... your queue number is 600000 blah blah blah

please be patient as our highly trained staff are working as efficiently as possible to ensure a smooth and relaxing process.

[sirineou]

12 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

This question has been asked and answered in other threads several times, but since you might no have seen it, here it goes.

   First the Covid test is given at a foreign  jurisdictions  where Thailand has no control. so for many countries it is a good idea to have a test here , where the outcome can be verified.

   Second , even if the first test is valid , It only tells you that you are not infected at the time of the test. A lot can happen in Three day. 

   The argument has been made that if you got infected in transit, 72 hours is not sufficient time for the infection to manifest it's self and be detectable by the second test. It is a falsie argument that fails to consider that the same detection parameters that apply to the first test, also apply to the second test . So during the first test , the subject could have also been infected less than three days before the test thus  the infection not detected, potentially  making the time from infection to second test in Thailand  6 days rather than 3. 

     So a person can depart with a negative test, but having spend a considerable time in a plane in close conduct with others, then probably having a layover in another foreign airport where said person is exposed to people also transiting from all over the world, has a higher probability of being infected than the general population that has not the same type of exposure, and could by the time he/she arrives test positive and import a new variant into Thailand.  

[Card]

12 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

I guess it's to make sure the covid certs are genuine. A country needs to make sure any covid tests are under its control. The pre flight tests will ensure at least most tourists won't be turned back at the Thai airport after a positive test.  Seems sensible to me 

[ChipButty]

Now no cigarettes in the shops, No Beer or Wine and no smoking and No Sex, better go to Afghanistan 

[Chongalulu]

Only a single headline needed : " High season confirmed as not happening " 

[club]

Your wrong . What will entice more tourism is open all bars , clubs , lift the ban on alcohol and help Businesses financially that for forced to close because of the government slow response to Covid and getting vaccines. Stop the ridiculous testing of fully vaccinated people that fly in internationally. Start all this when you can vaccinate 80% of population. 

[khunjeff]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

This system collects both travel and health information and will help facilitate the filing of TM6 and T8 forms.

...which was never an issue for anyone, since those two forms took a total of about five minutes (combined) to fill out on the plane.

 

1 hour ago, mjakob007 said:

Thai pax are not required to have negative covid test pre-boarding..

we dont want dirty farangs to spread covid

Vaccinated Thai passengers coming for the Sandbox or Test-and-Go schemes require pre-flight tests, but unvaccinated Thais planning to enter ASQ do not. Go figure.

 

9 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

And do not forget Covid insurance AFTER you have been vaccinated.

...and the Thai insurers don't ask for vaccination status, but instead charge the same premium to both vaccinated and unvaccinated travelers, despite vaccinated passengers having a far, far lower chance of requiring hospitalization.

 

 

[varun]

1 day quarantine = no quarantine.

Same same but different.

[raccos21]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

After they have been cleared, they will be allowed to travel freely in the country.

Really?

[Bangkok Barry]

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

You are thinking things through, not something the Thais are known for.

[crazykopite]

And we all know what happens with Thailand’s web based systems there forever crashing when your half way through it !!!!!!!!

[BadSpottedDog]

10 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

I am "International" and I am not getting enticed at all. Getting face raped twice just to be able to come to your country, where you can get arrested for having a glass of wine to your dinner or inviting a couple of friends to your garden for a sunset GT is not my kind of holiday MR. Pipat, By they way how did you get your position as Tourist minister?

"Face raped". HAHA. Gotta remember that. 
We actually bought spit tests from our pharmacy. Since my husband had sinus surgery, the face rape method isn't an option. So far, our dentist here in TH accepted the sealed test we provided. From what I've read, spit tests are more accurate anyway.

[wombat]

No Bars...No Booze...No Entertainment...Why would you want to come to LOS?

[Willy Wombat]

Their problem is that they think Thailand is the centre of the universe. A garden of Eden. Utopia.

And foreigners will be fighting their way to get to Thailand.

 

But most tourists go on holiday to relax. And you can’t relax if you are already stressed when the travel agent tells you that you need this, that and the other forms and other horse manure to get to Thailand.

 

A hard pass thanks. What’s Fiji looking like ?

[BananaGuy]

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

Can’t understand the support for your very naive comment there.

YES there is a possibility that test #2 is positive when test 1 is negative …

 

Test #1 is entirely under the passenger’s control. Maybe fake. Maybe real but wrong (accuracy is <100%). Maybe caught C19 in the 48 or 72 hours prior to boarding. All other passengers on the flight? same caveats apply.

 

Test #2 is presumably administered by the receiving country. They control quality, not the passenger. Any test which is <100% accurate, cheap and fast? Good idea to repeat it.

 

All the above is (or should be) common knowledge ~ 2 years into this business.

 

You and your upvoters really do need to try and keep up.

[newnative]

Delusional.  Change 'entice' to 'eliminate' in the headline.  

[Nemesis7]

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

I couldn’t agree with you more . Well said 

[NanaSomchai]

14 minutes ago, wombat said:

No Bars...No Booze...No Entertainment...Why would you want to come to LOS?

To part away with your hard earned money? What else...?

[finnomick1]

Red tape replaced by more red tape

[ourdon]

8 hours ago, cheapcanuck said:

It's a wait and see for me. Until a clear, no bs, policy is in place, i will wait it out.

Could be a long time till that happens.  Winnipeg could even start to thaw out before that happens.

[LivinLOS]

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

Because the departure test is 72 hours prior.. Thats 3 days of moving around in (what Thailand sees) as high risk areas.. Then the travel time.. Then the arrival day.. 

Add all this together and its could be as much as 5 plus days of exposure they wish to control.  

Does that seem a large risk ?? Not to me.. But then I dont really give much of a thought to COVID, loads of my mates and work colleagues have all had it.. I am not older or immune compromised, I can take my chances. But to Thailand ?? With the constant covid fear porn ?? They have a much different risk analysis. 

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

11 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've had same thought, perhaps it's not mandatory for cabin crew to vaccinate?

No, I have friends in the airline industry. They've all been given the choice of vax or hit the road.

[maddermax]

This won't mean a thing if they do not allow alcohol to be served in restaurants and hotels.

[Bangkok Barry]

12 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

TM6 and T8 forms.

just do away with this krap  completely, welcome to the stone  age

When I enter Dubai no forms are needed. None at all. And I can even have a beer there with my meal. Imagine that. The Thai government certainly can't.

[Andrew Dwyer]

2 hours ago, 10baht said:

First off all these people are fully vaccinated? Right? So the chances are now very low and if a person did contract Covid on the way to the airport he or she probably would not infect a plane load of fully vaccinated people. They may get in contact with the virus but not get infected.

Well the op doesn’t state that all these people are fully vaccinated, in fact :

 

From the op:

”The system also applies to people who have not been vaccinated or have received just one shot of COVID-19 vaccine and are entering Thailand under the alternative quarantine program.”

 

Will unvaccinated and vaccinated be travelling on the same plane ??

[head bender]

blah blah open the bars if you want people idiots

 

[sambum]

14 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Would someone PLEASE explain to them using small words that the only way to get tourists to return is to stop this nonsense and open up the bars and nightclubs. Maybe pictures drawn with crayons would help?

Note the two top stories running side by side today.

 

Number One is the Tourism and Sports Minister extolling the virtues of yet  another new scheme which is going to "greatly contribute to the increasing number of foreign tourists when the country reopens on November 1."

 

Number Two is proudly advertising the fact that police have arrested 61 people in one venue in Bangkok where "horror of horrors" they had heard a tip that alcohol was being served.

 

Okay, the law is the law, but what a great way of enticing foreign tourists - NOT!