Figures don't match on tourism arrivals - MoFA say 30,000+, MoPH cite just 24,000

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

Conflicting reports from Daily News yesterday showed that different Thai government ministries were reporting different numbers for tourist arrivals in the first ten days of the country's reopening, November 1-10th.

 

They quoted IT whizz and Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Thanee Saengrat as saying that 30,538 tourists had come to Thailand.

 

In another report after a later House of Representatives debate a Ministry of Health aide said that just 24,000 had entered the country. 

 

ASEAN NOW notes that such variances will only give grist to the mill for those that claim Thai stats are plucked from the ether.

 

Thanee also said that 147,503 tourists had registered with Thailand Pass and 92,920 had been accepted by 8 am yesterday. 

 

Top of the pile for those already coming to Thailand were US citizens with second to fifth filled by nationals from Germany, the UK, Japan and South Korea. 

 

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[herfiehandbag]

Well who would have thought it...

[Danderman123]

The difference is 600 people per day.

 

it probably comes down to different definitions of tourist, no big deal.

 

3,000 entering per day in November. How many came before Thailand Pass?

[RafPinto]

No tinking too mut.

 

Same same but different.

[RafPinto]

43 minutes ago, webfact said:

with second to fifth filled by nationals from Germany,

Woww. Daily new Covid record in Germany yesterday and they are still allowed in.

[ThailandRyan]

Maybe TAT is counting the returning Thais as tourists, well that's what my neighbors goldfish told me....

[RafPinto]

They won't put the germans on their "red list".

Someone very important went back to Germany a few days ago.

[asiasurfer]

And we just pull the numbers out of our a#&...

 

This is not called a recovery. 

[Gottfrid]

More and more organizations with malfunctioning calculators I can read. Please take the line to the right and get your free membership to the TAT club.

[sammieuk1]

Welcome to the land where nothing or no one never adds up ???? 

[ESLTeacher1989]

Phuket is actually extremely busy now, especially around Rawai/Nai Harn Area. Abandoned 7 Elevens Reopening everywhere - After Christmas - Phuket will be absolutely Rammed, There is so much pent up demand worldwide for travel, I think its not going to a be a nice experience here with it so busy. Where can people from UK/USA go for a winters break for strong Sun-  really only Thailand, Mexico or the Carribean

[khunPer]

I'm waiting wait for the numbers from TAT, their numbers will beat the these small figures...

[arithai12]

4 hours ago, RafPinto said:

Woww. Daily new Covid record in Germany yesterday and they are still allowed in.

If a person arrives in Thailand being double-vaxxed, negative before flying, negative at arrival, what does it matter whether they are from this or that country? Assuming that the certification is trustworthy, which probably is the case in Germany.

 

Besides, there is free travel without passport stamps within EU, so difficult to tell if a person arriving from Germany actually spent the previous 2 weeks there or somewhere else.

 

[Clarkey611]

4 hours ago, RafPinto said:

They won't put the germans on their "red list".

Someone very important went back to Germany a few days ago.

A poodle?

[ourmanflint]

Quote

Thanee also said that 147,503 tourists had registered with Thailand Pass and 92,920 had been accepted by 8 am yesterday. 

So that would be the total amount of tourists coming to Thailand until xmas then. Hard to see there will be a rush anytime soon

[John Drake]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Top of the pile for those already coming to Thailand were US citizens with second to fifth filled by nationals from Germany, the UK, Japan and South Korea. 

Thought Indians were supposed to save Thai tourism.

[StayinThailand2much]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

They quoted IT whizz and Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Thanee Saengrat as saying that 30,538 tourists had come to Thailand.

 

In another report after a later House of Representatives debate a Ministry of Health aide said that just 24,000 had entered the country. 

(...)

The remaining 6,538 are still at Suvarnabhumi Airport, following Anutin, who's leading them, carrying a flag, around the airport, as he is trying to find a way to Switzerland...

[StayinThailand2much]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Maybe TAT is counting the returning Thais as tourists, well that's what my neighbors goldfish told me....

If the Thais fly on to Chiang Mai or Nakhon Nowhere, they will probably be added to the tally a second time.

[StayinThailand2much]

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

Thought Indians were supposed to save Thai tourism.

And they didn't mean the ones from the U.S. ...

[StayinThailand2much]

8 hours ago, RafPinto said:

They won't put the germans on their "red list".

Someone very important went back to Germany a few days ago.

I'm confused; is Thailand ruled from Bavaria now, or from Beijing? Hardly from Bangkok, I guess...

[trainman34014]

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

The remaining 6,538 are still at Suvarnabhumi Airport, following Anutin, who's leading them, carrying a flag, around the airport, as he is trying to find a way to Switzerland...

All 6,538 will be issued with Spades and Shovels and be told to dig a tunnel to Switzerland pronto !

[it is what it is]

wouldn't read too much into this, it's nothing new for thailand or any other country, as mark twain said; "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

[StayinThailand2much]

52 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

All 6,538 will be issued with Spades and Shovels and be told to dig a tunnel to Switzerland pronto !

LOL. Wasn't that a movie? But that was from medieval England to 20th century New Zealand. Still, the medieval part checks out...

[Albert Zweistein]

Figures never match in Thailand.

[Meat Pie 47]

17 hours ago, RafPinto said:

They won't put the germans on their "red list".

Someone very important went back to Germany a few days ago.

including 250 friends and 50 poodles

[Gsxrnz]

Thai math is different, and very special.

[Hans Johnson]

Arrivals including domestic

[zzaa09]

17 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Figures never match in Thailand.

Thainess rhetoric and twisted newspeak are terms of contradiction, even if from the same toxic page.

[aussienam]

Are people coming in on OA, O and other non-tourist visas getting counted as tourists?  

And of those actual tourists arriving, how many had pre-booked on the hope that the entertainment and alcohol serving establishments would all be up and running by December?

 

It's going to be a very very dry and boring holiday for many traveling anywhere other than the very few places allowing serving of alcohol.  The only option for many will be a 7-11 bought bottle of alcohol in your hotel room or taking the risk of arrest and fines and drinking in one of the covertly operated bars/restaurants. 

[zzaa09]

On 11/12/2021 at 4:31 AM, it is what it is said:

wouldn't read too much into this, it's nothing new for thailand or any other country, as mark twain said; "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

The way things are done - everywhere. 

Bureaucracy protecting itself. 

Comes in many forms.